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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 10:09 PM Original message |
8-year-old burn victim denied medical procedure by FDA |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
1. I heard this on our news at 5PM today. At that time they said |
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JanusAscending (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 10:56 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. No.... they have been doing this successfully |
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Better Today (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 11:14 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. A small heal wound on an adult does not compare to 80% of a child's body. |
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dencol (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 03:50 AM Response to Reply #8 |
29. Actually, it does. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 01:15 PM Response to Reply #29 |
41. No, it doesn't. Because anyone with 80% burns is unlikely to survive, no matter |
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Doremus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 03:28 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. Nothing experimental about it. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 05:04 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. The treatment proposed for the boy was still in a pre-market, experimental stage. |
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Liberty Belle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 10:11 PM Response to Reply #41 |
50. Not true. There are many burn victims from the CA wildfires who had |
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Liberty Belle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 10:16 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Here's an article showing increasing survival rates in people with burns over 80% of their body: |
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Scairp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 02:49 PM Response to Reply #1 |
42. I didn't think this was experimental |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 05:05 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. The procedure proposed for the boy has not gone to market, |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 05:03 PM Response to Reply #42 |
60. Boys playing with gasoline was how he was burned |
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GFmuse (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 07:52 AM Response to Reply #1 |
53. "experimental" status |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 10:18 PM Response to Original message |
2. Health Care reform should of cut off these criminals who |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 11:26 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. The "criminals" at the FDA are investigating this Shriner's study for not reporting |
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GFmuse (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 08:01 AM Response to Reply #12 |
54. Not a miracle cure |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
3. Why, they are being scientific. There are protocols to follow, |
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Zoeisright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 11:39 PM Response to Reply #3 |
17. Don't know much about the scientific process, do you? |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 03:00 PM Response to Reply #17 |
43. I know enough about it to be writing a book. |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 10:37 PM Response to Original message |
4. this is why the fda refused..... |
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Better Today (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 11:13 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. OMG, before everyone becomes incensed and irate, read madrchsod's link. |
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momof2 (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 02:56 PM Response to Reply #7 |
56. Sandy Frost |
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Sandy Frost (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-29-10 08:54 AM Response to Reply #56 |
64. From Sandy Frost |
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Stargazer09 (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 11:45 PM Response to Reply #4 |
18. Thank you for posting that |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 02:02 AM Response to Reply #4 |
22. So, the correct response to "what harm could it do" is: |
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D-Lee (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 07:00 AM Response to Reply #4 |
30. Thanks for the link -- FDA report was impessive! nt |
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Better Today (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
6. The FDA??? The FDA isn't an insurer. This makes little sense. If it's experimental |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 11:16 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. The FDA is understandably cautious about experimenting on people who cannot |
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Better Today (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 11:26 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Yes, you'll notice that I went back and read the post above, and now understand the full depth of |
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groundloop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 11:27 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. FDA puts a hold on a procedure where data has possibly been altered.... |
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Zoeisright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 11:38 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. You're absolutely right. The government isn't conspiring to kill children |
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ShockediSay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 11:57 PM Response to Reply #10 |
20. Parent/s could consent, legally. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 02:41 AM Response to Reply #20 |
24. I'm not sure what you're getting at. The Shriners should be following the |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
9. Beautiful little boy. I hope he gets his treatment. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 11:21 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Unreported adverse effects include pneumonia, sepsis, and necrotic muscle tissue. |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 11:38 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. With burns on 80% of his body, pneumonia, sepsis, and necrotic muscle tissue.. |
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Stargazer09 (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 11:48 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. After reading about the FDA's concerns, |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 02:52 AM Response to Reply #19 |
27. I agree. What a horrible choice for the parents. A key question, however, |
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Stargazer09 (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 08:30 AM Response to Reply #27 |
32. One thing that made me wonder |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 01:09 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. That is my fear, too. The parents are extremely vulnerable to false hopes -- |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 02:44 AM Response to Reply #16 |
25. You don't know that there was a "small risk of an adverse effect" because |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 03:29 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. I read the report. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 01:12 PM Response to Reply #28 |
40. The child is unlikely to survive no matter what is done. Offering the parents |
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momof2 (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 02:59 PM Response to Reply #16 |
57. adverse events? |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:08 AM Response to Original message |
21. this kid is essentially already dead. |
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canetoad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 02:28 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Thank you |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 02:47 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. One of the criticisms of the Shriners is that they weren't following the rules of |
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momof2 (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 03:05 PM Response to Reply #23 |
58. you are so wrong |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 05:15 PM Response to Reply #21 |
63. That's bullcrap - odds still against but if kid survived thus far |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 08:20 AM Response to Original message |
31. They should apply for a Compassionate Use waiver. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 01:10 PM Response to Reply #31 |
38. The problem is that the study has been halted because of deficiencies in how |
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burnsei sensei (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 09:12 AM Response to Original message |
33. Why I'm sure it's a good, |
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Baalath (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 10:02 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. This wasn't denied for money reasons. FDA isn't insurance |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 01:11 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Welcome to DU, Baalath! n/t |
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gristy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 09:52 AM Response to Original message |
34. What harm could it do? |
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Xenotime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
36. Science rules must be followed. |
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Haole Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
44. How horrible |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
48. yeah, let's torture a dying kid so that we can all feel like |
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GFmuse (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 08:09 AM Response to Reply #48 |
55. rates of success |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 08:18 PM Response to Original message |
49. It is thinking like yours is why Steve mcQueen is making wonderful movies into old age... |
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pansyofanotaku (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 12:52 AM Response to Original message |
52. Poor thing... |
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momof2 (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 03:06 PM Response to Reply #52 |
59. If this child |
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Sandy Frost (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-29-10 09:10 AM Response to Reply #59 |
65. Shriners Now Bill Insurance |
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GlennWRECK (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
61. Poor thing :( But that's the procedure |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
62. According to CaringBridge Website - FDA has approved! |
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