Rand Paul to long term jobless: Just go back to work

[Ed Barrow]

Source: Lexington Herald-Leader

Republican U.S. Senate candidate Rand Paul on Friday urged Americans who have been unemployed for many months to consider returning to the workforce in less desirable jobs rather than continue relying on government unemployment assistance.

"In Europe, they give about a year of unemployment. We're up to two years now in America," Paul said on Sue Wylie’s WVLK-AM 590 radio program.

"As bad as it sounds, ultimately we do have to sometimes accept a wage that's less than we had at our previous job in order to get back to work and allow the economy to get started again," Paul said. "Nobody likes that, but it may be one of the tough love things that has to happen."

Read more: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/06/18/96187/rand-paul-to-jobless.html

[rurallib]

1. Channeling Chuck Grassley

"go to work for the government if you want my health care"

[saigon68]

33. "Serfdom"--- Coming to a place near you

[old mark]

2. The answers to complex questions are very simple....

when you are fucking stupid. You go, Rand...let everyone know who you really are.


mark

[Saturday]

3. I know several who are under employed

and happy to just have a job. I think many have already done what Rand wants them to do. I also know 2 who are not looking for jobs and are collecting unemployment for however long they can. Some abuse the system, some don't.

[mrcheerful]

12. Being disabled in the 70's and 80's often you had no choice but to run your

unemployment benefits out. One of the biggest problems I had looking for a job was the under/over qualified BS used by businesses then to deny people jobs. I had a friend that had a BA in engineering who had worked 10 years for Baker/Perkins until they left the country, after getting the good old we can't afford you excuse from every machine factory, he decided to use his short order cook experience to get a job as a short order cook, he was also turned down by them for being over qualified.

Talk about being out of touch with whats going on, good old Rand should pick up a paper and read that businesses are now using long term unemployment as a reason to avoid hiring people who need work. Stupid is as stupid does.

[DBoon]

31. There are business that specify "no umemployed need apply"

and will not consider candidates unless they are currently employed

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/04/disturbing-job-ads-the-un_n_600665.html

[discocrisco01]

41. Rand Paul

Rand Paul is guilty of having feel superiority, lacks the ability to have empathy, and engages in contempt of unemployed people without perform a detailed investigation of knowing why people are unemployed and the root causes of unemployment. I would call Rand Paul a selfish man who should not represent the people in Kentucky unless he learns to become introspective and work on learning on empathy and compassion.

I would state that he has no solution to the nation's problem and that people like Rand Paul are responsible from driving this nation to the recession. I also would state that Rand Paul worships the God of Capitalism and therefore, is blind follower of capitalistic system that have wrecked havoc on this country. He lacks the ability to question whether the market itself is fallable.

This is what the Dems need to do when Kentucky and pick up a seat in Congress.

[POAS]

4. Note to Medicare and Medicaid. cc Rand Paul

Seeing as how Doctor Paul has stated:

"ultimately we do have to sometimes accept a wage that's less than we had at our previous job in order to get back to work and allow the economy to get started again"

Please cut all further payments to Dr. Paul's practice in half to get the economy started again.

Thank you.


poas

[ck4829]

5. "Let them eat cake!"

[MurrayDelph]

13. No, no, no.

That's on hold for his solution to world hunger.

[undeterred]

6. In an economy where teenagers have high unemployment

how many of those low paying jobs does he think are available?

[conspirator]

7. Next he is gonna tell the homeless: just rent a house n/t

[Judi Lynn]

20. Or to the starving, "go make yerself a samwich." n/t

[DBoon]

29. Rush LImbaugh has beat him to this one

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8592882

[thelordofhell]

27. Or to the poor, "just make more money"

Another clueless idiot that thinks "Atlas Shrugged" is a work of non-fiction. NOW do you people understand what kind of fool his father is?

:tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat:

[DBoon]

30. or to the dead, "Show some initiative and get living"

I mean, all bad things are due to people not working hard and showing initiative.

[alfredo]

8. Businesses will not hire a person they deem over qualified.

[Brickbat]

22. That's right. Here's the problem right here. You can go to the interview and they'll tell you to

your face that they won't hire you because they're afraid you'll bolt as soon as the economy turns around. So what now, Mr. Paul? Lie on your resume? Mm-hm.

[alfredo]

37. But I'm board certified!

[jmowreader]

57. Here's how...

Someone from the national eye doctor accrediting panel (this guy's an optician, right?) went to Rand Paul's office, whacked him upside the head with a board and told him "you can't make up your own certification, you stupid shit!"

Unfortunately, the 4x12 they used to do it with knocked a screw loose, and now he's a Libertarian. He was normal before.

[alfredo]

60. Naw, batshit crazy runs in the family.

[enlightenment]

40. I've been told - repeatedly - to lie on my resume.

I'm supposed to lie about my experience, my education, and my age.

Not really helpful advice, but it is, apparently, very common.

[Lost4words]

48. not lie so much as embellish

[enlightenment]

51. No - lie.

I'm apparently too old (in my early 50s), too experienced, and overly educated. Employers are not supposed to use age as a qualifier and cannot ask the question - but they can easily figure it out by looking at employment and/or education history. They should not use 'too experienced' or 'too educated' as a qualifier, but do on a regular basis. Sometimes they're even honest about it.

If I am told I should omit information to get around those things, I'm being told to lie on my resume. Not embellish.

[DRoseDARs]

9. Wise words from a fake doctor/fake teacher.

And by "wise" I mean "wise ass."

[MineralMan]

10. Many years ago, following a raid on a homeless encampment in

San Luis Obispo, CA, the TV interviewed one of the police Lieutenant who had participated in the raid, during which all of the homeless people's possessions were taken. The Lieutenant said, "Why don't they just buy a house like everyone else?"

The TV reporter looked dumbstruck. The cop just looked dumb.

[Jkid]

45. American Social Darwinism Hard at Work....

n/t

[riderinthestorm]

11. Isn't Rand Paul the doctor who takes Medicare and Medicaid payments?

I say we just tell him that he has to suck it up and accept less government money. He can do his part in getting the economy "started again" by implementing his own tough love policy on himself and cutting his government payouts.

[Scuba]

14. And if you're not qualified for the job opening, just create your own Board to certify you!!!

[Sub Atomic]

15. Hey dickhead - I'd love to go back to work.

I'm applying for anything - even those jobs that Americans won't do. I don't care that I'm over-qualified; I wouldn't have applied if I didn't want the job.

How about you hire me? Like I said, I'm willing to do anything right now, even whore myself out to a miserable piece of shit like you.

So how about it Rand?

:rant:

[Dulcinea]

23. Same here.

I have a degree plus 20 years of experience. I too am getting the "overqualified" line & am applying for whatever I can find. Part-time is fine with me. I'm sure Rand could find me something & get me off of unemployment.

[onehandle]

16. Genius! Palin/Paul 2012!

Prove the Mayans right!

[Dappleganger]

17. The only way he can really believe that people aren't trying to find employment...

is to completely ignore everything in the news and media and never talk to a constituent.

[Jakes Progress]

18. Another on the list

of those who will make the world better by dying. When time and fate takes the weight of his ignorant arrogance from the earth, the planet will heave a sigh of relief. What must it be like to live a whole life and never have done one good thing.

[Phlem]

19. what an extreme asshole

Have your party stop blocking everything in congress including the jobs bill and I'll get a job shithead. What a F%ckin Sack "O" Sh!t.

-p

[BR_Parkway]

21. Start your own certification board, advertise for clients, bill Medicare

and you too can have a lucrative gig instead of working.

[Tempest]

24. Rand needs to lead by example

Let's see him quit his campaign, close his practice, give away all his money to charity and get a minimum wage job.

You'd see his tune change immediately.

[Paladin]

25. Sounds Like Most Of The Snotty, Entitled Doctor's Kids I Know.... (n/t)

[Critters2]

59. +1 nt

[cleverusername]

26. He's in fantasy land

I'll drop into his fantasy land and get one of those jobs that don't exist in reality. I'll send ya'll some fairy dust, too.

[RedCloud]

28. let's have the super rich and the minimum wage!

Why don't those at the very top take some wage cuts?

[mariema]

32. If there are any jobs to be had at a lower wage

they aren't going to hire a 45 or 50 year old with a degree and 20 years of experience as an engineer or a paralegal. My local K-Mart is not going to hire someone for $9 an hour who used to earn $25 dollars an hour as a technician. The 22 year old manager at the Fazoli’s restaurant is going to hire me, with my incipient arthritis and reading glasses and slow moving butt? He won’t,he can’t. It is better for business to have a young, sprightly, cheap teen-ager taking orders or cooking.

I love it when people who don’t have to go out and find a job say this kind of crap, “just take any kind of job, at least you’ll be working.” They have never run a business and they have never been in the situation where they would gladly take “just any kind of job.”

"In Europe, they give about a year of unemployment. We're up to two years now in America,"

I don’t know how that is relevant. In Europe, the unemployed don’t have to worry about health care and they have a social safety net that has pretty much eliminated homelessness and malnutrition. If the long-term unemployed here knew what kind of benefits are available to the unemployed in Europe, I think there might be riots in the streets here.

[MadMaddie]

34. Fuck Rand Paul

I think that what needs to happen is we (us) need to come up with a plan to start or find away to inluence small manufacturing type companies to start hiring the homeless military, the experienced workers and start channeling that experience into creating products for the U.S in the U.S.

I know this is easier said than done.

So we have a problem and we need to create solutions ourselves. Big Business is not going to do it, the government isn't going to do it. We need to do it.

What if the DU community started thinking along these lines? What ideas can we generate here, how can we get our DU members who are looking into ventures that will create this work?

What is it that the WWII Vets and their generation did that allowed them to create new businesses or grow existing businesses that we are not doing?

I could go on but what say each of you? Can we do something like this? I think we can, I know we can......

[LeftishBrit]

35. Sounds like Norman Tebbit..

He was a very RW Minister in the Thatcher government, who exhorted unemployed people to emulate his late father during the Depression of the 1930s, who 'got on his bike' to look for work. (He is still around as an appointed Tory member of the House of Lords, writing for the Torygraph, and looking down on Cameron as too liberal.)

[Buns_of_Fire]

36. Long-Term Jobless to Randy Paul: Just go... nah... never mind... it's too obvious...

Has anyone told Randy to go cheenee himself in the last five minutes? ... Well, okay, allow me to be the 185,762nd, then.

[Blue_Tires]

38. why don't reporters challenge pols anymore when they talk out of their ass?

Europe gives a year and the USA gives two?? (Don't tell the state of Virginia, who only gave me 90 days, iirc)...

He honestly thinks the rank-and-file middle class is too proud to work for less?? Where in fuck's name has he been?? I've been working for less NINE out of the past TEN years, and I've known countless others who have done the same and worse...

The only thing stranger than these comments is his choice to run for senate in one of the poorer, undereducated states...This is going to go over like a lead balloon...

[rucky]

39. "Dr." Paul to his patients:

Just get better.

[Endangered Specie]

42. Hes doing a pretty good job at making himself jobless for some time to come!

at least, in the political industry!

[FarLeftRage]

43. FarLeftRage to worthless piece of SHIT:

Fuck off and die....

[Blandocyte]

44. How much of this idiot do we have to take

before the press stops listening?

[prolesunited]

46. There are MILLIONS of unfilled jobs right now in the U.S

because that's how many unemployed people there are. There are not enough jobs for every person that needs one. What part of the equation do these idiots not get?

[ProudDad]

47. Says a fucking rich asshole who's never been involuntarily unemployed

Fucking libertarian prick!

[SKKY]

49. Um, no Rand, it's not like that...

...most European countries base unemployment on how many years you've worked and paid into the social security system and your average salary for those years. It's not "...about a year...". It could be less, but it could also be a lot more. How dumb is this guy?

[lovelyrita]

50. What if your new job pays half what your previous job did?

Are you then supposed to default on your mortgage? Stop paying credit card bills? Sell your possessions?

It must be the unemployed persons fault for thinking they are to good to go from make $40,000 a year to $9.00 per hour.

:sarcasm:

[agentS]

52. The Republican plan in a nutshell

If you're sick, die quickly.
If you're poor, get off welfare.
If you're jobless, get a job that doesn't exist or you won't be hired for.

The GOP is running on bullshit Harry Potter Magical thinking of economics.

I hope Jack Conroy rips this asshole apart with these statements at the debate.

[MisterP]

53. as a libert, doesn't he believe that min-wage jobs are just "summer jobs" for rich kids?

and not something to be lived off of? that's their main "rationale" against the min wage: the others are 1) drawing parallel lines with a curve through it and yelling "QED!" and 2) arguing that laborers have a right to sell their labor for $3/day (yes they actually say that)

usually they eschew argument for undeserved superciliousness, smug mockery at non-Randroids' "mysticism," and screaming about the USSR, especially during the period 1930-53

[pitohui]

54. what an idiot, you wouldn't be hired

you will be told you're overqualified and it's bad for morale to have you around

doesn't this idiot know that EVERYONE who wants a job already thought of that? trouble is, nope, we were thinking of hiring a delivery boy with a bike, not a middle aged man with an RV (for anyone who ever saw "lost in america")

if you had a REALLY good job, you're unlikely to be hired for a crummy one, who would want you being depressed and miserable or even being perky and telling everybody how you know better how to do things?

it just doesn't work

maybe once in awhile if you're a mommy out of the job market for years you can get a shitty job in retail since you can't get your real job back but for most of the people who say they can't get a job...they're not kidding...they CAN'T get a job

[wickerwoman]

55. As someone with a Masters degree who spent most of last year

applying for and not being hired (not even being interviewed) in retail, fast food, data entry, mail delivery and every other shitty minimum wage job in a hundred mile radius, I say a hearty fuck you to Mr. Paul and the worst I can wish him is that his eyes may be opened by experience.

[New Dawn]

56. Typical Libertardian.

[Critters2]

58. What's the unemployment rate in Kentucky?

I guess Ol' Rand forgot unemployed people can still vote.

[AnnieBW]

61. The 3 unemployed folks I know are in their 50's.

All three of them have some kind of health issue. They can't exactly work at McDonalds or Best Buys.