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ArizonaLiberal Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 02:40 PM
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American is Focus in Krentz Killing: Update
Edited on Mon May-03-10 03:25 PM by ArizonaLiberal
Source: Arizona Daily Star

The killing of a Southern Arizona rancher that sparked an outcry to secure the border was not random, and investigators are focusing on an American suspect, the Arizona Daily Star has learned.

High-ranking government officials with credible information spoke to the Star, citing a desire to quell the fury over illegal immigration and drug smuggling set off by the shooting death of longtime rancher Robert Krentz on March 27.

They said Cochise County Sheriff Larry Dever is investigating a person in the United States, not in Mexico, in connection with the shooting.

Read more: http://azstarnet.com/news/local/border/article_35ef6e3a-5632-5e58-abe7-e7697ee2f0d5.html



Re post. Wrong link. Sorry


<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/49844070@N03/4576137734/" title="Headline by ArizonaLiberal, on Flickr"><img src="" width="1024" height="576" alt="Headline" /></a>






I did not in any way alter this.

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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 02:48 PM
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1. If he means a U.S. citizen, I wish he would have said that
"A person in the United States" doesn't rule out an illegal immigrant. His clarification could have been clearer.
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ArizonaLiberal Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 03:06 PM
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3. They changed the headlind and some of the text!
Edited on Mon May-03-10 03:44 PM by ArizonaLiberal
I took a screen cap of the orig. Still new here and will figure out how to post it.

Here it is!

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ArizonaLiberal Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 08:49 PM
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11. Something fishy in Arizona!!!....
TV 5-KPHO in Phoenix reported on the same conflicting information related to the investigation.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x461724
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AzJusticeFreedom Donating Member (161 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 09:00 PM
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12. I still say it's his brother....
Isolated ranch, an argument, easy scapegoat. His brother is the one who pointed the finger. Forensics will tell the story.
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 09:18 PM
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13. You may be right
The brother's story sounded fishy from the beginning. The only intelligible words over the radio just happened to place suspicion on the likieliest scapegoat--an illegal Mexican border-crosser. It reminds me of another story (out of Boston?), in which a guy blamed two black attackers for the murder of his wife. The real killer, it turned out, was the husband.

Welcome to DU! :hi:
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 11:12 AM
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17. They added an editor's note to the page:
Editor's note

Earlier versions of this news story referred to the possible suspect in the Krentz killing investigation as American. The story — as originally reported — said the suspect is believed to be in the United States. It was changed to 'American' in the editing process. To be clear, the suspect is believed to be in the US. The suspect's nationality is unknown.
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 12:14 PM
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18. Something is indeed fishy
Sheriff Larry Dever says he tracked a single set of footprints to the Mexican border, but now the suspect is in the US?
Reports of the rancher guessing about illegals on his property the day before.
The area is highly trafficked with this activity.
Dever is also in the center of testimony to the Feds on this issue. That testimony is clearly slanted in one direction.
Dever believes this incident sparked the new AZ law everybody's upset about.
Dever's own comments have played a role in the media hoopla over the issue.
Dever is also known to support GOP candidates and blame illegals for everything down there.
AZStarNet.com changes the headline and adds a goofy explanation for the changed headline going out of their way to state they do not know nationality of the perp.

Things are conflicting here. Dever obviously has an angle here and is obviously playing politics. Dever seems to have capitalized on this investigation, before he had all the facts, as a way to call attention to an issue important to him. Now it is very possible that the perp is a US citizen. Calling into question Dever's ethics while doing his job, plus the whole state process of AZ. If it is found out that the perp is a US citizen and not a Mexican citizen there will be hell to pay.
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ArizonaLiberal Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 09:48 PM
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20. I agree! Dever has an ax to grind and is using........
this incident to further his career and his agenda. His face is all over the airways in ads for McCain, talking about the border. Making hay. My girlfriend is from Douglas and has faced the racism there all her life.
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 04:25 PM
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19. Update: (Sheriff denounces Star report)
News report on rancher's
killer irks Cochise sheriff

by Dennis Wagner - May. 4, 2010 12:00 AM
The Arizona Republic


Cochise County Sheriff Larry Dever on
Monday denounced a news report that said
the March murder of southern Arizona
rancher Robert Krentz was not random and
was committed by an American or a person
recently in the United States.

Carol Capas, a spokeswoman for the
Sheriff's Office, said Dever characterized the
story in Monday's Arizona Daily Star as
"inaccurate and irresponsible."

*snip*

Still, the Star's report appears to conflict with
statements by Dever and others who have
speculated that the assailant was an
undocumented immigrant working for
Mexican drug cartels.

In an e-mail, Star executive editor Bobbie Jo
Buel said the paper maintains that "Cochise
County is investigating a person in the
United States, not in Mexico. . . . The Star's
sources have not identified the person's
nationality to us."

Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/05/04/20100504arizona-rancher-killed-irks-sheriff.html#ixzz0mzsxu7fk
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Teka Donating Member (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 03:05 PM
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2. Sources I know in the News business here
Lead me to believe that they are looking for an American ANGLO...
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 03:11 PM
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4. Thanks, Teka--that makes a big difference
And welcome to DU:hi:
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ArizonaLiberal Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 03:47 PM
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5. I wonder why they changed the headline. N/T
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SoapBox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 03:47 PM
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6. It will be interesting to see where this goes...
but the Wingers will be going NUTZO!
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AzJusticeFreedom Donating Member (161 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 03:55 PM
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7. My money is on his brother......
Edited on Mon May-03-10 04:06 PM by AzJusticeFreedom
They were ranching together and the brothers story is that he got a call from his brother on his 2 way radio he was dealing with "illegals" then was cut off.

"Approximately 14 hours earlier Krentz’ brother Phil said he had communication come over his hand held radio from his brother but because of the gusty winds the transmission was garbled and the only words Phil was able to make out were “illegal alien” and “hurt”."

Link:

http://www.douglasdispatch.com/articles/2010/04/28/news/doc4bb27583118e9472161260.txt

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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 03:58 PM
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8. Thanks for the post...
...and welcome to DU!

A tip for future reference: delete the horizontal line next time, so the words will wrap and we don't have to scroll horizontally to read it.
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ArizonaLiberal Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 04:12 PM
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9. Than you for the welcome and the tip! NT
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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 04:51 PM
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10. I can't believe an illegal
would be carrying a gun,it boggles the mind when you think how quickly the locals decided it was an illegal person or drug runner that did the crime.was there a background check on all the family members and neighbors?Here in Cochise county its a hot bed of racism where people are quick to blame Mexicans for every crime in this area.
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 02:15 AM
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14. Authorities say slaying that sparked outcry over border security was not random (Suspect From US)
Source: Arizona Daily Star

Authorities say slaying that sparked outcry over border security was not random
Focus in Krentz killing on suspect in US

The killing of a Southern Arizona rancher that sparked an outcry to secure the border was not random, and investigators are focusing on a suspect in the United States, the Arizona Daily Star has learned.

High-ranking government officials with credible information spoke to the Star, citing a desire to quell the fury over illegal immigration and drug smuggling set off by the shooting death of longtime rancher Robert Krentz on March 27.

They said Cochise County Sheriff Larry Dever is investigating a person in the United States, not in Mexico, in connection with the shooting.

The Star's policy is not to use unnamed sources except in instances in which the information is of high public interest.



Read more: http://azstarnet.com/news/local/border/article_35ef6e3a-5632-5e58-abe7-e7697ee2f0d5.html
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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 02:15 AM
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15.  Will the sheriff retract
the original statement,maybe after the horse is out of the barn,the racist element here in arizona have had a field day accusing the Mexicans of every bad thing that happen along the border.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 02:15 AM
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16. Hell, Senator John McCain blamed illegals for causeing accidents on the interstate
Maybe they cause tooth decay and bunions too, according to the wingers and pols who pander to them.
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