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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 02:53 PM
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Exclusive: Major Taliban Operative Captured
Source: Fox News

February 21, 2010 - 2:09 PM | by: Justin Fishel

Mulvi Kabir, the former Taliban governor in Afghanistan's Nangahar Province, and a key figure in the Taliban regime was recently captured in Pakistan, two senior US officials tell Fox News. Kabir, considered to be among the top ten most wanted Taliban leaders, was apprehended in the Naw Shera district of Pakistan's Northwest Frontier Province by Pakistani police forces.

A senior U.S. military official in Afghanistan called Kabir a “significant detention”.

The intelligence that led to Kabir's capture was gathered from Mullah Baradar, the Taliban’s second in command, who was picked up roughly two weeks ago in Karachi, Pakistan by a joint CIA and Pakistani intelligence operation.

Baradar’s capture has been followed by a series of major detentions within the Taliban’s ranks in recent days, individuals U.S. officials are describing as “shadow governors” who operate from the safety of Pakistan’s frontier and tribal regions. Aside from Kabir, Mullah Salam of Afghanistan’s Kunduz province and Mullah Mohammad, who reportedly controlled the Baghlan province, are two of the most notable captures since Baradar was detained.


Read more: http://liveshots.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/02/21/exclusive-major-taliban-operative-capture/
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 02:58 PM
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1. What? Again?
Haven't we got anything better to do? Like fund health care?
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NGC_6822 Donating Member (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 03:53 PM
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7. By golly!!!
This new policy of capturing a top Taliban and feeding him cookies and milk really works. I'll bet if the Pakistani soldiers and the CIA gave him a free ride on a donkey, he would take them straight to Osama bin Laden. Well, Mr. Cheney, you can learn something new every day!
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 03:05 PM
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2. "intelligence that led to Kabir's capture was gathered from Mullah Baradar"
The capture of Baradar may be the most significant event in this entire war and could bring it to an end much sooner that many expected.
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Chicago dyke Donating Member (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 04:27 PM
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8. "i am authorized to tell you
that our actions on the Malabar front have brought the war within measurable distance of its end."

/cue 1984 soundtrack by eurythmics/
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 05:09 PM
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9. LOVE that song
Double Plus Good...dystopia you can dance to.

Got it on my mp3 player right now along with Sex Crime (1984)
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 05:16 PM
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10. Are they TRYING to be funny?
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harkadog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 05:43 PM
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11. Another #2 gets captured!
Number 835 in a series. Many more to come!
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 07:06 PM
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19. Taliban this time, not Al Quaida.
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ThisThreadIsSatire Donating Member (697 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 03:05 PM
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3. I'm waiting for Cheney...
... to talk about how capturing and detaining all these Taliban leaders is making Americans less safe...
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 03:12 PM
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4. I am waiting for Cheney to say that Obama does not know we are at war.
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dreyer Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 03:24 PM
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5. Five Deferment Cheney

Five Deferment Cheney must be let down. Cheney preferred to watch the illegal torture, from a distance of course, being directly involved in the capture and torture is much to dangerous, video feed is what Five Deferment Cheney and Abandon your Post Monkey liked.
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 03:53 PM
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6. I say give Cheney a scatter-shot gun, give
him army boots and ship him off to Afghanistan because only he can keep us safe! He can rearrange a few Taliban faces.
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 05:51 PM
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12. I sure hope they got this thru "enhanced interrogation techniques"!
It would paint us Americans in a paltry pastel hue if we didn't draw blood to garner intel from these guys! :sarcasm:
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Grassy Knoll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 05:53 PM
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13. Im surprised the news source was FAUX noise.........
This good news is against there agenda.
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The abyss Donating Member (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 05:56 PM
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14. They obviously tracked him through intelligence gained during this raid
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 06:18 PM
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15. I love that you used Fox News as a source for this.
Having to report Obama's successes against terrorists must really aggravate them.

Heh.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 06:31 PM
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16. Actually, I got it here:
http://twitter.com/BreakingNews

And they had sourced it from Fox.
When I first saw that, I thought oh-oh, then I realized the irony.
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rollin74 Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 07:04 PM
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18. I thought Obama was supposed to be
a foreign-born, closet muslim, terrorist sympathizer according to Fox and their followers.

Sure seems odd that such a president would be going after the Taliban so hard. He's had far more success against them in 13 months than bush & dick had in over 7 years.

must be painful for the right wingers to accept.

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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 07:36 PM
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20. You misspelled a word
It's "muslin," not Muslim, at least for fox viewers.

Right about the timing. This is exactly the amount of time it would take for the war in Afghanistan to change course if the Bush administration had been pursuing a (purposefully?) ineffective strategy and the Obama administration gave orders to actually fight the war for real once they came into office.
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 06:40 PM
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17. Oh Gee, and I thought Obama was so "weak" on terrorism? (Cheney can eat shit !)
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 12:41 PM
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39. He is weak! He's just capturing a few guys. Tons of women and children are still alive.
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 07:40 PM
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21. I wonder
How many innocent lives were lost during the capture of this guy and how many new terrorist were bred from the vicious killing of the innocent?

or are we actually celebrating like NEOCONS now?
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 08:20 PM
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24. No. A neocon would ignore the facts and context of a story
...and take a moment where they have someone's attention to make an point of their own, based on unsubstantiated conjecture, simply to further their own agenda and attempt to diminish the real progress this Democratic President and his administration have made in Afghanistan.
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 08:58 PM
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25. Your argument is idiotic you portend that there is
a necessary war going on.... No war is necessary I think most people understand that all war is war of convenience.

What were you saying when Bush was killing innocent people in the Middle East? Were you as supportive of him do you not agree that there has been REAL PROGRESS your words in IRAQ? Even Joe Biden seems ready to celebrate Iraq as a victory.

Give me a break... I hate this pro-war progressivism. I hate that Obama actually had the nuts to take a NOBEL PEACE PRIZE and then escalate war....

and I hate that people actually try to justify any of it as if its ok because well you know its Obama....



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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 09:20 PM
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26. I don't.
I've gone into greater detail elsewhere, but Obama's doing exactly the right thing in Afghanistan. I'm no expert on Iraq, but I know more about Afghanistan than all but maybe a half-dozen DUers. Obama's team have made exactly the right moves every time since they took over. I'm not sure who they're getting advice from, but whoever it is, is good.

I frankly could care less who's making decisions when they're correct. I'm no cultist.

Your only argument is that all war is bad. That's sort of like saying you're against slicing people open with knives. Not a lot of folks would disagree with you off the bat, it's a safe position, but at some point one of them might remember they need to have an appendix taken out. Not pretty, but sometimes you do it, or the appendix will burst and kill you.

Look, I'm not going to try to convince you innocents haven't been killed. And while there were plenty of reasons for us to get involved in Afghanistan in this generation, I'll be the first to tell you none of them were particularly honorable, and even most of those reasons are moot as of a few months ago.

But the only justifiable reason left to be there is actually a good one. Interesting, mm? A totally dishonorable start, you and I probably agree, even if we disagree on what the reasons were it was dishonorable. But a way forward that might do some good. Hint: it's not packing up and leaving.

Ask any US soldier on the ground whether they miss standing guard at an Iraqi oil derrick, compared to hunting some genuinely bad people. Hell yes it's not our problem. But we're there and can actually do something worthwhile. It's going to be a terrible loss by the end, the "spoils" of Afghanistan train left the station late last year so economically we're going to be down. And we're going to lose a lot of good people, and a lot of innocents will die, too. But, and this is a big "but," unlike in '89 it's looking more and more like we may actually leave the place better off than we found it.

God forbid we manage to do that once a generation or so.
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 09:59 PM
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28. Sigh...
Do you understand why Afghanistan is known as the Graveyard of Empires?

Obama's surge in Afghanistan is nothing more then throwing more meat into the grinder of Tora Bora. It is a fools errand and will prove a terrible failure at a terrible cost.

Even the definition of success, meaning that the Afghani people have a trained army that can defend itself against terrorists that would use its resources to launch attacks will never be realized.

You are an apologist and your explanation of justifiable meaning that we are there fighting terrorists that attacked us on 911, let me remind you that Al-qaida operates out of more then 100 different countries in the world, so your logic is wrong headed and it shows me that you have lost your way.

War is never the solution to a problem. You are right I hate all war but I do agree that Sometimes you are forced to fight to defend yourself that has been the case in our history, but that is not the case in this situation. We are not fighting an army, a dictator, a ruler of a country we are spending ridiculous amounts of taxpayer money for what? to stop what? to get who?, seriously think, think, and think again slowly this time exactly why we are doing what we are doing and inevitably historically what the result of this undertaking will be. Aggressive pro-active response is morally wrong and innocents do die. You cannot pretend that Obama is somehow above the reality of the situation.

Obama had a choice in Afghanistan he chose to double down on the mistake. My hope was that he would have risen to the challenge, became the hero that most wanted him to be and stand above the same old policies of the past... but he didn't and the Peace Prize is just salt in the wound.

I don't trust Obama, I have lost faith in him for the very reasons that you seem to want to rally to this cause.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 10:10 PM
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29. That you keep wanting to make this about Obama
...means you didn't read a word I wrote. I won't even bother addressing "apologist." Sigh, indeed.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 12:49 PM
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40. There's no actual discussion that can take place with some.
It's a pity, really.

That one called me a whore a few minutes ago.

And everybody knows I do it for free.

:shrug:
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 11:03 PM
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30. Howard Dean, one of the few people I listen to
said he supported Obama's decision in Afghanistan.

He said that Obama was faced with impossible choices, and chose the best of the bad.

Howard Dean, a very smart and informed guy.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 12:15 AM
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33. Robb. Thanks for your post on this.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 07:43 PM
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22. WOW,, COOL! And how many Innocents (Women, Children, Elderly) caught the bullet for this Success?
Inquiring Minds would like to know.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 08:00 PM
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23. The series of arrests began days after Pakistan announced it
would like to have a larger role in the future of Afghanistan by offering to help with Afghan Taliban reconciliation efforts. Asked to explain the sudden increase in support from Pakistan, General David Petraeus, head of U.S. Central Command, told NBC’s “Meet the Press” Sunday that Pakistan has come to realize Taliban can no longer be seen as a nuisance only to the West. “Some ten months ago… the Pakistani people, their political, including the major opposition figures and even the clerics, all recognized the threat posed to the very writ of governance of Pakistan.”

I do hope that the women in Afghanistan have a better chance if the Taliban have less say and are unable to blow up girls' schools anymore.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 12:50 PM
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41. self delete
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 09:33 PM
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27. more leaked propaganda to justify their corporate occupations
what a load of shite.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 11:05 PM
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31. No, making sure that certain people don't get their hands on
Edited on Sun Feb-21-10 11:06 PM by tabatha
nuclear weaponry.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 07:45 AM
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34. I didnt believe Bush and Cheney and I sure dont believe Obama
they are both being run by corporate entities.

and this occupation is a corporate war.
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 12:06 PM
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36. Thank You for realizing the obvious that so many
Pollyanna types here seem intent to disregard...:toast:
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 01:08 PM
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42. you are welcome. nothing more tiresome then arguiing with republicans
about Bush and now arguing with dems about the same policies that bush had in place being implemented by obama.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 12:11 PM
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38. Surely they must be running low on Major Operatives by now
:eyes:
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