Report: Apple to launch Verizon iPhone for 2010

[Hissyspit]

Source: appleinsider.com

iPhone For Verizon In 2010

By Dan Frommer
On 9:45 am EST, Saturday November 7, 2009

Apple will release a new iPhone next summer that works on Verizon Wireless as well as all global networks, a report claims, citing sources in the Taiwan supply chain.

The report, via AppleInsider, also says that the new iPhone will be smaller than the current iPhone, including a smaller screen. And that it will be manufactured for Apple by a different supplier, a subsidiary of netbook-maker Asustek.

Assuming Apple does not renew its exclusive U.S. deal with AT&T, it makes sense that Apple would make an iPhone that could work on Verizon, the largest U.S. wireless carrier with 89 million subscribers.  (Verizon uses a different technology than AT&T--CDMA--so Apple has to build a new kind of phone to work on the network.

Read more: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/iPhone-For-Verizon-In-sil...

[barbtries]

1. why shouldn't they make it available

through any provider?

[bettyellen]

4. they get more kickback frm provider when its exclusive, but i think they hit saturation w/ att so...

[Norrin Radd]

45. People just jailbreak them for use with other providers.

[bear425]

2. Yaaayyy!

I need a new phone and I've been holding off b/c I really want an Iphone, but don't want to change carriers. This is awesome news! TY

edit: excitement causes spelling errors.

[endless october]

3. are they worried about droid or something?

i would have considered an iphone, but i'm about done with AT&T. if verizon gets a version, i'll consider it once i'm gainfully employed again.

[onehandle]

6. Not as much as Windows Mobile is. Carriers are expected to drop it like a hot potato...

...and replace it with Droid.

Balmer loses again.

On the iPhone vs. Droid front, Apple and AT&T are about to come out with a $99 Full Featured 3GS for the holiday season.

[Roland99]

11. Where have you heard about the cheaper 3GS?

[Roland99]

13. n/m. Found it. $99 8GB 3GS by the holidays

http://www.pcworld.com/article/181587/a_99_8gb_iphone_3...

[Norrin Radd]

44. Several carriers will have the HTC TouchPro2, which is a Windows

Mobile phone.

[nashville_brook]

21. i'm the same way -- i'll never willingly do business with AT&T

[CANDO]

25. AT&T is the only unionized wireless carrier.

Many people don't like the carrier for one reason or another, but I stick with them in part because of the union factor. To each their own.

[AngryAmish]

35. Even if they suck?

[Tesha]

37. All of the carriers suck, each in their own ways. (NT)

[CANDO]

39. Well, I haven't actually ever had a problem with them yet.

I drive truck all over the Northeast and have experienced excellent coverage. I would imagine having problems with any corporate entity, especially if it involved trying to talk to an actual human being to solve my problem only to be ran in a robo-circle instead.

[nashville_brook]

42. i did not know that. thanks for sharing -- that's really important to know.

right now i'm fine w/o a cell. i hate talking on the phone, but we carry AT&T long distance. that makes me feel somewhat better about doing business with them.

[WriteDown]

48. Unions are cheered on DU only when it's convenient...

See any GM thread for confirmation.

[CANDO]

53. I know what you're saying.

20+ year Teamster.

[SpiralHawk]

5. Yaaba daba doo! Charge It !

[Bonobo]

17. I got that reference. Good one.

You must have been a hardcore Flintstone fan like me, foolish human.

[Fearless]

7. Course they will... just as sales of the last one drop off...

Put out a new one, continue to charge an arm and a leg...

[KittyWampus]

10. I keep hoping an iphone will come into my price range. Someday.

[Psephos]

27. At least there isn't a government mandate that you buy one or face fines or prison. n/t

[Fearless]

33. You're on the wrong message board buddy.

[Psephos]

41. No I'm not. Meanwhile, you're explicitly breaking DU posting rules.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/forums/rules_detai...

Paragraph 5, "Civility"

Do not publicly accuse another member of this message board of being a disruptor, conservative, Republican, FReeper, or troll, or do not otherwise imply they are not welcome on Democratic Underground. If you think someone is a disruptor, click the "Alert" link below their post to let the moderators know.

There are few actions less liberal than trying to coerce all people to hold an opinion similar to your own.

Meanwhile, IMO the enforcement provisions in the health care bill that I alluded to are likely to create strong political blow-back as general awareness of them spreads, damaging the Democratic Party's brand. Prison and massive fines, enforced by the IRS, are the tools of authoritarianism, not liberalism. Did you like it when Bush wanted to know what library books you checked out or that the NSA was listening to your phone calls and scanning your emails? They also used the IRS to probe US citizens for financial behaviors suggestive of terrorism. Change "terrorism" to "healthcare" and the same M.O. applies. Why is cramdown any better when we try to do it than when they try to do it?

It's not. In fact, it's worse. We're the liberal party.

Don't worry, I won't suggest that you move to another board where you wouldn't be violating the rules.

[Fearless]

49. ACTUALLY... I was refering to the topic. Not about freeping. Nice try though.

[Psephos]

51. Suurrre you were. ;)

[Fearless]

52. Uhh... yeah I was.

[Lorien]

8. I won't ever support Verizon after they pushed for mountaintop removal

and even had their people standing by as loggers tried to cut off the tops of trees in order to attempt to KILL the protesters sitting in them. F-ing evil!

[bertman]

9. WOW!! Please provide a link for that, Lorien. I had not heard about it.

[beac]

12. Evil AND a terrible, terrible, terrible company.

I can't tell you how many people, myself included, have HORROR stories about Verizon's service. Incompetent is far too generous an adjective. If I had a dime for every minute I've spent w/ Verizon 'Customer Service' and 'Tech Support' trying to get them to fix their own screwups, I could probably buy a top-of-the-line iPhone and have enough left over for a nice bottle of much-needed-post-hassle wine.

[thesquanderer]

14. Yes, evil

Too bad the service is apparently decent, because you're right, the company is beyond awful. The worst. (Okay, Bank of America may be worse, it's close...)

[SkyDaddy7]

15. WOW! Thats ODD!

Verizon service has been wonderful for my wife and I...From hardware service to actual working service. My wife and both have wonderful service even in the Georgia Mountains.

Not really familiar with the claims being made that Verizon has actively tried to kill protesters. I will check back if links are posted.

Sorry about your bad experience with Verizon...We switched from Sprint for reasons much like you described about Verizon.

[beac]

20. I live in rural'ish VA, but I've got friends from DC to Maine with a little less hair on their heads

thanks to old Verizon. My nightmare has been with their internet service (the ONLY one we can get out here) but others have experienced trauma with their TV and/or wireless products.

Glad to hear you hear you aren't part of our merry band of victims. And yes, Sprint is gawd-awful too. They bought Nextel and our cell phone service has been crappy ever since (but we're on a really good/cheap month-to-month plan having long-ago toughed out a 2 year contract, so we are kind of stuck with their dreadfulness too. )

[backwoodsbob]

29. my wife is a verizon tech :)

I guess I'm married to evil

[diane in sf]

18. I've put up with their spying for bush because the service has been very good

and the other service that covers one of the areas I need was actually just as bad and using verizon's towers.

[TerribleLarryDingle]

36. Yeah I'd like more info as well

I was planning on switching to Verizon tomorrow for the droid but if what you are saying is the truth I will certainly stay with T-Mobile.

[tomm2thumbs]

16. no Flash support - no iPhone

[Toucano]

31. Flash must die! n-t

[tomm2thumbs]

46. awwww.. please no

[Toucano]

19. Oh, just open the damn thing up already.

Apple is getting as bad as Microsoft in some ways.

[pinniped]

22. I want a Motorola Droid for AT&T's GSM network!

[kentauros]

23. I would rather have a Vodafone service.

I wish Vodafone would hurry up and buy out Verizon so we can have GSM and be compatible with the rest of the world

[Tesha]

24. But that's the point. As 4G (LTE) rolls out everywhere with everyone, ...

...Verizon *BECOMES* compatible with the Rest of the World.

Tesha

[kentauros]

28. Okay, but I'd still rather have a Vodafone

I like the product better

[ellie]

26. WOO HOO!

I will not give AT&T one thin dime. Fuckers.

[Blandocyte]

30. How awesomely cool

must have

[Le Taz Hot]

32. Oh, look!

A new shiny thing to keep the proles occupied. Pay no attention to that fleecing you're getting, it's just a new app!

[CatholicEdHead]

34. It would be nice if T-Mobile offered iPhones

Then I would be interested.

[Tesha]

38. In Europe, they do!

http://www.mobile-t-mobile.com/Mobile-news/T-Mobile-iPh...

But here, AT&T still has an exclusive on the iPhone.

Tesha

[mopinko]

40. smaller? why the fuck would they make it smaller?

don't they know us baby boomers are all going blind?

[bamacrat]

43. I get it for the money aspect but Verizon and Sprint are the only CDMA networks anywhere.

Kinda dumb unless they are thinking of changing to GSM. The rest of the world uses GSM (Sim Cards), its a faster technology with more room to improve. A smaller iPhone with a smaller screen that will suck. I love my iPhone and it is the perfect size, the big screen is an awesome selling point. I have a 16GB 3G when my upgrade comes around Ill get the newest one and if its the last just keep upgrading the software and hold on to it until it dies.

[Xithras]

54. The article makes some bad assumptions. It will NOT be CDMA, and these won't work everywhere

The Apple guy in charge of the iPhone development gave a Q&A several months back and made no secret of the fact that the next generation iPhone will be GSM/LTE dual-mode ONLY. LTE-A is a new "4G" protocol, and both Verizon and AT&T have already begun projects to convert to it. LTE-A will be available in about 20 cities for Verizon customers next year, and AT&T is planning in rolling it out nationwide in 2011.

There won't be a "Verizon" version of the iPhone. Once Verison turns on its LTE network, the nextgen iPhone will simply work on it as-is. When AT&T gets their LTE rollout finished, the same phone will work on BOTH networks. The days of phones being incompatible across networks are finally coming to an end, though it will probably be quite a few years until total compatability happens.

Verizon customers, unfortunatly, are going to have range issues at first. If they leave one of the LTE-A upgraded areas, their phone is simply going to cease working. Without a CDMA fallback circuit, it won't be able to talk to most of their network. It will be like the early digital phone days, when it was possible to buy digital-only cellphones. If you wandered into an analog-only area, your phone loses signal...even though the guy three feet from you on his analog phone has four bars.

In other words, this is GREAT news if you're an iPhone envious Verizon user in San Francisco or New York, but it doesn't mean a thing if you live in Bakersfield or Amarillo.

[WriteDown]

47. This is GREAT news. Apple will be hiring a lot of people in the US to manufacture these.

Oh wait....

[callous taoboy]

50. Verizon gave the maximum to bush / scrotum during both pres. elections...

Don't know why apple can't team with progressive companies.