Body of missing Missouri girl found; juvenile in custody

[villager]

Source: Kansas City Star

Body of missing Missouri girl found; juvenile in custody


Authorities searching for a missing Cole County, Mo., girl have found a body and arrested a juvenile described as a “person of interest” in the case, authorities announced this afternoon.

The body of Elizabeth Olten, 9, of St. Martins was found deep in the woods away from the initial search area, Cole County Sheriff Greg White announced in a televised press conference. Authorities also recovered Elizabeth’s cell phone, he said.

The person of interest is an older juvenile who was acquainted with Elizabeth, White said. He did not provide the juvenile’s age or say how he knew Elizabeth.

Authorities asked for prayers for her family.

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Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/news/breaking_news/story/1526024.html

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So is this to become another Daily Occurrence in "family values" America?

[fl_dem]

1. OMG

That is 2 too many this week!!! I think vigilantism should be encouraged and rewarded when monsters harm our children.

[Mithreal]

7. And when the monsters are children? What then?

These stories shock but do they surprise anyone?

Not directed at you in any way, just venting and not to take anything away from this tragedy, but how many children are being butchered and prostituted as a consequence of good ole American Military industriousness and where is the rage those children's pain demands?

[Honeycombe8]

12. What ARE you talking about? What "Military industriousness" caused that juvenile

to murder a child, do you think? (if he did it, that is)

[Mithreal]

29. I asked who is crying out for the nameless thousands of children.

I said I did not want to take anything away from this tragedy.

If I were to argue the point you accused me of having made, I would say that the callousness and devaluing of human life as embodied in our recent wars, lack of health care and job, house and family protections to just name a few, are not something invisible to children. Did I say our military industry caused this death? Absolutely not, that is way beyond any reading I can give what I previously wrote.

[Mz Pip]

42. I think we can be outraged

by both. BUt this thread is about this young girl. THere are plenty of other times when we are outraged by the senseless deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan. These are not mutually exclusive outrages.

[Mithreal]

44. To me the thread is about this child and every senseless murder of a child. nt

[buffalowings]

35. Mire

Did they arrest the delinquent?

[buffalowings]

23. Crimes against the virgin female

The numbers seven and nine are symbolic in many religions. The sign of virgo, the last astrological sign of the season of summer is an unusual symbol. Are these hate crimes against young females?

[HereSince1628]

9. Yes, presumption of innocence, having a legal advocate, a fair trial

those are all such quaint last century things.

Our legal system isn't perfect but it's the accepted way of doing things.

[Flaneur]

10. No, vigilantism should not "be encouraged and rewarded."

Dealing with these heinous, emotionally-wrenching crimes is precisely when we must make the most efforts to ensure that the rule of law is strictly adhered to.

If the parallel isn't too strained, Bush went apeshit vigilante-style after 9/11, and what did that get us?

[frylock]

16. you may want to watch the oxbow incident sometime soon

[uppityperson]

17. Fuck YEAH!! Let's go shoot us some juveniles like this one!!! I'm SERIES!!111111

"Vigilantism" should be encouraged? Hunt someone down who you think may have done this and kill them? Oh yah, real good idea there. And then who will hunt you down and kill you for killing someone else?

[TroglodyteScholar]

19. Welcome to DU

The quality of your posts can only improve.

:hi:

[fl_dem]

20. yeah, i hope so too.

I reacted emotionally to a horror story. My bad. We are a civilized nation, with laws to keep us that way, I know. I'm just so fed up with these crimes against children. My apologies! Consider me spanked!

[crim son]

30. I understand your outrage however

there are too many overeager, misguided dumbasses out there to imagine that vigilantism is a means to justice.

[TheMadMonk]

43. And exactly this attiuded could explain why the poor child died.

Older children have been doing inappropriate things with younger children since time immemorial. More often than not, with a greater or lesser degree of consent (bought, coerced, or freely given) on the part of the younger child. Is it right? No, but it was most certainly a normal part of growing up in generations gone by. And most such "games" never progressed past looking and touching.

Once upon a time, a threat to "tell" held the promise of an arse kicking by an angry dad or older brother, today, thanks to attitudes such as the one expressed by you, it is tantamount to a "living death" sentence. The older kid panics, tries to silence the younger and what was a naughty game, suddenly becomes murder.

[DURHAM D]

2. Oh please...

There is no point in gratuitous trashing of entire regions of the country.

Its like a hate crime because it is directed against an entire group or class of people.

[theHandpuppet]

4. The OP only criticized the "family values" crowd

I read no disparing remarks against any particular region of the country.

[DURHAM D]

5. What do you think "family values America" means?

It means red states or fly-over states as this incident did take place in Missouri.

Your attempt to defend this kind of hate speech is just sad.

Did you see any mention that either the victim or the suspect were Republicans or rightwing nuts or fundamentalists or Beck watchers or Bush lovers. No - it was just trash talk because it happened in Missouri.

[Honeycombe8]

13. I didn't take it to mean Missouri. MO voted for Obama, didn't it?

I remember it being very close. But I thought Obama eventually eeked out a win there. And Claire whatshername...isn't she a rep from MO?

I don't think that qualifies as a true red state. I'm in TX (note I said "in," not "from"). You wanna talk a RED STATE? Talk TEXAS.

[lobodons]

18. Missouri went for McCain

It was close, I believe the difference was about 5000 votes. Could you have gotten this question correct before the election:

Which state did NOT vote for Obama?
Florida, North Carolina, Virginia, Ohio, Missouri, Iowa, Indiana, Pennsylvania, New Mexico, Colorado, or New Hampshire?

I would have gotten it wrong.....(I would have picked Indiana) BUT, if you said only one of those didn't vote for Obama? Well then, I would have replied, "We can now say, President Obama!!!!!!!"

[theHandpuppet]

14. To be honest, I've never associated the term with a region

And that's a fact. I always assumed the "family values" crowd could be found anywhere. So accusing me of defending "hate speech" really is unwarranted.

[DURHAM D]

15. So what in this story in any way indicates that the family or the suspect were

part of the "family values America crowd" - NOTHING.

Why do you defend this characterization of the victims?

[theHandpuppet]

25. Perhaps you should ask the OP what they meant

Just a thought, as I'm curious myself.

[niceypoo]

27. I have never associated it with a region either

A lot of people, particular southerners, are hypersensitive about where they come from.

Hate speech? Oh pleeease...

[The Hope Mobile]

6. + 1 nt

[rocktivity]

3. Ted Bundy may have made his "debut" at the age of 15

A nine-year-old girl on his paper route has not been found to this day. Hopefully, the police have stopped a serial killer in his tracks.

:(
rocktivity

[Hestia]

8. Exactly rocktivity - serial killers always start out young with their first

kill (I was reading about psychopathy a year or so a go -- don't ask) get scared, and wait until 20s/later to start again. Creepy awful horrible ack...

[DrDan]

11. WHAT in the world is going on. This poor little girl in Mo and another in Florida this week

What is wrong with us.

[EmeraldCityGrl]

21. This is a sick and depraved country.

We arrogantly judge other countries on how they should treat woman and girls and here they are murdered, raped, and molested.

[Xithras]

22. There are sickos and perverts in every nation of the world.

The difference is how we, as a society, respond to those who are caught committing the crimes.

[EmeraldCityGrl]

24. Oh really. Well check this out...

Rapes per capita by Country http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_rap-crime-rapes

I suppose you would argue we have a better system of reporting, while that may be true it does not justify these numbers.
Our country is an extremely dangerous place for women and girls to live. Time for people to acknowledge our dirty little
secret.

[buffalowings]

26. cells

I just started posting at DU. Are there always sale ads for cells in the last post of each thread?

Thank you.

[crim son]

31. I believe that people who donate are not subjected to the ads.

If you like it here it might be worth the five bucks to get rid of them, seriously. Welcome to DU!

[buffalowings]

33. Thank You

[crim son]

34. Certainly.

It's always good to see new people, buffalowings.

[buffalowings]

37. Thanks, again, CS

[Xithras]

28. Statistics go both ways..

Rape victims as a percentage of the population by country: http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_rap_vic-crime-rape-victims

While the number of rapes are high in the US, when you break out repeat victims and balance for population, the U.S. drops considerably. The actual odds that any particular woman in the U.S. will be raped are actually lower than the odds that exist even in low-crime countries like Finland & Norway. As a percentage of the population, you are more likely to be raped in France, Britain, Italy, or Switzerland than you are in the U.S.

I was a molestation victim myself and no way want to downplay ANY rapes, but my original point stands. There are rapists and perverts in every country. The U.S. is no different than anywhere else in that regard.

[Flaneur]

41. Your link actually goes to total number of rapes reported.

Which gives a distorted picture. If you actually click on the per capita tab, you find the US drops down to 9th. Still not good, but not as horrendous as the raw numbers suggest.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_rap_percap-crime-rapes-per-capita

[Kali]

32. and through human history (and prehistory)

we aren't anything special

[mstinamotorcity]

36. Sadness again

Whenever anyone loses a child they deserve our strongest faith based signal (prayers,meditation,etc.).I have never lost a child but I have seen it on many occasions and I don"t want to drive down that road. So my heart goes out to her parents and the Florida child"s parents. How do we protect our children? There are so many bad elements out to get them adult and child predators. But you must understand our communication together is what is starting change. Making sure laws are put into place, getting out prehistoric laws, prehistoric republicans,and creating an environment where are children can be safe and when their safety has been compromised they may have justice. I always hope for the day when we are singing with one voice!!!!!

[buffalowings]

38. MPC

Join Mother's Protecting Children. A worldwide organization. (I see if I can get further information on it.)

[buffalowings]

39. Excuse me.

I'll see.

[buffalowings]

40. Link

There is an organization in CT, which, I'm sure is a great source. However, this link is to a world-wide organization which seeks to help mothers protect children in times of war and conflict. I think this might apply to all mothers because as far as kidnapping and murder of children, it is, for a mother, an act of war.

Mothers/parents unite!