Obama, in Media Blitz, Snubs 'Whining' Fox

[RamboLiberal]

Source: ABC News

As President Barack Obama goes on an unprecedented presidential blitz of media appearances, the White House is in a war of words with the network that did not get an interview: Fox.

"We figured Fox would rather show 'So You Think You Can Dance' than broadcast an honest discussion about health insurance reform," White House spokesman Josh Earnest told ABC News.

That's a reference to the program the Fox network aired at 8 p.m. on Sept. 9, when other major broadcast networks were airing the president's speech to the joint session of Congress.

The idea of punishing Fox for not airing the president's speech didn't sit well with Chris Wallace, the anchor of Fox News Sunday.

"They are the biggest bunch of crybabies I have dealt with in my 30 years in Washington," Wallace said on the Fox News program "The O'Reilly Factor."



Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obamas-media-tour-include-fox-news/story?id=8621065

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Josh Earnest shoots & scores! Love the headline ABC!

[Rosa Luxemburg]

1. I would like to close down Fox

[movonne]

3. That's my dream...and I wish Murdock would go broke..

[Rosa Luxemburg]

7. He looks old

[virgogal]

11. Robert Byrd looks old. What's you're point?

[Rosa Luxemburg]

13. hopefully he will gone

[saigon68]

142. Faux News = The mouthpiece for a Vile Coterie of Racist Thugs

[nxylas]

151. Looks like his son will take over, though

There had been hopes that the younger generation of Murdochs would be more liberal, but his son (James, I think his name was) recently gave a lecture where he continued to spout the same old Randian/Friedmanite ideology that has led us into the mess we're in.

[AusDem]

65. agree completely

i apologise for posting these links too many times, but I think its important as Faux is an abomination

Read the following diaries from Daily Kos:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/9/18/780918/-An-Auss...

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/9/19/781718/-An-...

The first one very clearly outlines what Rupert Murdoch's NewsCorp seems to engage in countries other than the US. Down here in Australia as well, they manufactured a fake controversy to harrass and potentially bring down a democratically elected progressive (to some extent) government.

The second one is an amazing blow-by-blow of Faux's disrespect for and politicization of 9/11

[onlyadream]

103. Seriousy, isn't there something that can be done

to get Fox off the air? Or at least have them take the word "news" out of their title? It isn't news, it's propaganda...when they are proved wrong time and time again,shouldn't SOMETHING be done?

[kegler14]

112. Nothing to be done unless u want to suspend the Constitution.

[onlyadream]

114. What about bait and switch

they say their news but...wait...it's ALL lies!

[nxylas]

115. There's no law against that

But are we talking about Fox News or the Fox Network here? There's a big difference. One broadcasts on the public airwaves and is subject to regulation by the FCC, the other is a cable-only station and can say whatever the hell they like.

[Jane Austin]

123. Not true.

Why don't they say "shit" and "fuck" if they aren't regulated?

[nxylas]

150. It's their choice

Different cable channels have different rules about what they allow. For example, BBC America edits out the f-bombs from imported shows like Torchwood, while FX allows them in their own shows (eg Rescue Me). But it's an internal decision by the individual channel, not imposed from outside.

[Jane Austin]

122. Not true.

Report 'em to the FCC.

[AlbertCat]

130. Nothing to be done unless u want to suspend the Constitution.

Well, all the Constitution says is the Congress can make no laws prohibiting speech.

There is, however, truth in advertising. If Fox says it's a NEWS channel, then there could be a definition of "news" that might force Fox NEWS to either take it out of their title (with "fair and Balanced") or conform to a definition of "news"....and "opinion". But all that is rather tricky and iffy.

There could be a requirement to air equal time of opposing opinions before it can be called a "news" show or channel. This wouldn't mean that they HAD to air opposing opinions giving them equal time, but then they couldn't call it a "news" channel unless it did.

Wow! What a concept! I wonder why it hasn't been tried before?:shrug:

[Chemisse]

137. I like that idea! nt

[kegler14]

153. And of course you'd then get exactly the same claims by conservatives

against CNN. Trying to shut down a "news" organization no matter how bad it is (and Fox is very bad) is absolutely not where I want to see liberals going. It's idiocy.

[MUAD_DIB]

143. Or bring back the fairness doctrine.

[Jane Austin]

121. Report the lies to the FCC.

They DO have jurisdiction over cable networks.

If you think they don't, then why can't they say "fuckity fuck fuck" or show full frontal nudity?

[virgogal]

10. Why? It's really fun to watch.

[DWilliamsamh]

52. No it is not fun to watch a media outlet engage in knowing lies

About the very important issues facing our nation and the world, and actually influencing people's thinking about how we will move forward and take care of our nation and the world. It is deadly serious. Not funny at all.

[tempelton1]

79. Yes it is.

Pardon me, but I refuse to take these blowhards seriously. Sure, take the threat of what these blowhards disseminate and the impact it has seriously. But take Glenn Beck seriously or, to put it another way, NOT laugh at Glenn Beck? You are the one who is joking. I refuse to let these motherfuckers drag me down to their depressing level. Refuse.

[loudsue]

94. That's just plain ignorant. These people are trying to get Obama assassinated.

You must not be old enough to remember the Kennedys and King being assassinated. It is HORRIBLE. In fact, the Kennedy assassinations have continued to negatively affect this country even through our current situation and political climate.

Fox is spreading propaganda that is BELIEVED by a large segment of the population in the South, where I live, and by idiots nationwide. They are not "funny". They are extremely dangerous to a democracy.

[Zoeisright]

111. +1

[Jane Austin]

126. Exactly.

Some cretin out there will think he can be a hero and save the country by assassinating this "Muslim, foreign-born, Nazi Communist" who he has been told is destroying our country.

How many super hero comics do you have to read to realize you could be a hero if you save the country from the Nazis or Communists?

[Prophet 451]

149. Leave super hero comics alone!

Adults reading Batman (for example) know that the stories are escapist fiction. When real-world issues are included (as they are on occasion), the books generally come down on the liberal side (with the exception of Marvel's atrocious "Civil War" arc).

[tempelton1]

140. Try harder next time...

Loudsue, what part of "Sure, take the threat of what these blowhards disseminate and the impact it has seriously" don't you understand?

But will I treat Glenn Beck as anything other than a clown - NO. Can't you handle the idea of two approaches to different facets of the same overall topic at once (or is that simply too complex for you)?

Please do not call me ignorant because I can assure you that is not the case. As a non-American citizen I am sure I know a hell of a lot more about US politics than most of the people on this board. Does Bill Maher, John Stewart or Robert Colbert take Glenn Beck seriously - fuck no, Maher talks about Beck painting with his own poop. But does he take seriously the threat of the clown's actions? Yes. Do you get it now? Or does your shallow righteous indignation still want another bash at this chestnut?

In short, I am sure we agree on Beck as being a scumbag. Forgive me if, unlike you, I decide to laugh at what a moron he is. You can frown all you want. When push comes to shove however, I will stand up at all and any chance I get to do so against his words and actions. I only wish my fellow Clevelanders felt the same way (as, since moving to this country three months ago, I can find NO leftwing group operating locally that actually takes any action - which is why I had to protest Fred Phelps' recent visit to the area with just my wife and I!) However, the thing that sets us apart is that I don't sit at home denigrating fellow lefties as "ignorant" just because they refuse to stop laughing at Glenn Beck etc.

I welcome all approaches to mocking, protesting, blogging against, rallying against, debating etc etc that may be reasonably applied to opposing him.

If you don't welcome me here, I will gladly go elsewhere. I really don't put up with flaccid online group-think or refusals to welcome a diversity of approaches to a common problem. In fact, not only do I not welcome it, I laugh at it loudsue. Does that upset you too?

[loudsue]

147. Nope. I guess not. Please stick around.

And thanks for protesting Phelps. Nice job.

[tempelton1]

152. Thanks Loudsue. :)

[Prophet 451]

148. The assassins won

Assuming you disbelieve the sole assassin theory, it's generally assumed that those who arranged to have the brothers Kennedy assassinated (and MLK) were right-wing interests. Since their assination, the US has swung so far to the right, it's unrecognisable.

[rhondayes]

156. Presidential Assassination

I agree with what you posted. There is psychic damaged done that is irreversible when a President has been assassinated. However, I do not believe they are brave enough to take this particular President on, because his people are prepared and have been since he began campaigning. The person had better want to die, so he had better talk to a priest and two responsible people before he does anything foolish.

[uncle ray]

158. im pretty sure anybody crazy enough to attack a president is well aware of the peril they are in.

now, why did you dig up a ten day old thread about this topic for your first posts?

[Jane Austin]

124. "It's fun to watch them undermine our duly-elected

government with their lies."

On what planet, Virogal?

[RKP5637]

15. Same Here!!!

Fox has become a perpetual spin machine mouthpiece for inciting violence and hatred. I see little Fox does to contribute to the goodness of the country... every opportunity they have or make they work to erode American further and further. With free speech should come responsibility, integrity and truthfulness in reporting.

[wake.up.america]

27. Nicely expressed.

Fox News generates a following by creating controversy in it's programming. Truth plays a secondary role in it's news presentations - so a drop in sponsorship AND money taken in from special interests is the only way to put a stop to its idiocy.

People like Beck are not the brightest, but they do know how to bring in the money to Fox and to themselves.

It is all about money with these guys. Compassion and common sense are unimportant.

[AlbertCat]

133. a drop in sponsorship AND money...from special interests is the only way to put a stop to its idiocy

Fox News is part of Murdock's News Corp. News Corp loses money every quarter. Fox News does not make money or even break even. It is kept afloat by injections of cash from Murdock.

It's influence may be great but not THAT great. The main influence it has had is to dumb down all other news outlets.

But it only takes 1 or 2 nuts spurred on by Fox News to, say, blow up a Federal building or shoot someone.


CNN, if it's so appalled by Fox News, should have a show dedicated to just pointing out lies in the media. It should be prime time. It should even call out CNN's lies & mistakes. But Fox would, by default, dominate.

[rhondayes]

157. Making News

Ever since the advent of the 24 hour news cycle, it has become popular to create news. Have you noticed everything is "breaking news"?

Fox news will be be reading tea leaves soon, if they are smart, because there will be no writing on the wall. They will stop inventing news and spinning facts to suit the crazies in their viewing audience, because just like Abe Lincoln could read the unrest of his time, if Fox is to survive they had better report the news and not create news.

[24601]

64. I don't want to close down any press - I'd rather educate them.

Closing down the media, regardless of the methodology employed, trashes the 1st Amendment and once we start down that path, nothing in the Constitution is safe.

[verges]

80. How about....

hoping that they simply go out of business?

[IcyPeas]

92. I agree with you, except they spread downright LIES.

I don't mind an opposing view point when it's honest. But they plain out lie. I can't believe it's legal for them to do what they do (but I understand that it is legal).

best.

[DollyM]

99. that's the problem, they aren't the press . . .

FOX calls themselves a news station but they really are more of an editorial station. They only report on bits and pieces of news that they can slant to their own biased agenda. That is called editorializing.

[gtar100]

101. The people at Fox News makes a mockery of the First Admendment

by abusing their right to free speech. I don't think closing them down would trash the First Amendment. It's a battle for the minds of the people and we're saying to stop lying to us or there will be consequences. Maybe shutting them down would send a signal to other corporate media groups to stick to the truth, cover the stories that matter, and stop being propagandists.

Bottom line: Fox News is hurting us. Our friends, families, co-workers, our communities are believing utter nonsense and have in Fox a loud, flashy media conglomerate dishing it out non-stop. If they continue their campaign to stir up the worst in us, they deserve to be shut down. They have already in my mind proven that they cannot be trusted, are not legitimate in what they purport to be, and are one of the major influences in the US for misleading people and stirring up hatred and violence.

Besides, the *ush Administration and the repugs have already trashed the Constitution. We need to go into recovery mode.

[Arugula Latte]

107. You think Fox is educatable?

Bwa ha ha ha ha! :rofl:

You do realize that Fox was created specifically to push an extreme rightwing agenda and tear down anything left of Reagan, don't you? They are not interested in "journalism" in any way, shape or form. They exist for propaganda purposes. Period.

[Jane Austin]

127. Don't close 'em down.

Get them sanctioned by the FCC.

[24601]

67. Sure, then we'll close down churches with which we disagree,

then we'll eliminate that pesky 5th amendment that protects anyone from self-incrimination. And that awful 4th amendment requiring the police to get search warrants is just too inconvenient. And we are looking at your house for quartering (housing) a squad of Marines - look on the good side - you won't need an alarm clock.

The Bill of rights isn't needed to protect those things that are popular but those that aren't. And when you set the precedent of shutting down Fox, are you prepared when the next Repug administration shuts down everything but Fox, and makes viewing mandatory?

[Moochy]

86. The Bill of Rights, useful to the actual fascists

as well as those being called nazis. Surely a new Fairness Doctrine could be devised taht would apply some balance to any news or political content on cable and broadcast outlets.

[Doremus]

88. Would the 1st amendment protect 2-minute hates?

Fixed News = 1440 minute hate

[TankLV]

90. Oh give us a fucking break already! What you posted is NONSENCE at best...

FUX is NOTHING but THE repuke mouthpiece.

It has NOTHING to do with reporting the NEWS.

Remember when they had on bush* ALL THE FUCKING TIME - even AFTER Obama won the election - every time bush* FARTED?!!!

WE DO!!!

It's time to end the charade and GET THESE - LIARS - off the air!!!

[donco6]

120. When that happens, I'll worry.

I don't plan on EVER being worried.

[Doremus]

87. I share your wish.

It would be the best thing to happen to Democracy in a long time.

[Hutzpa]

93. Hers how you can do

it, take a look at this topic about Murdochs' empire, blows your mind away.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/9/19/784230/-The-Un-Winnable-Winnable-war-with-News-Corp.Rupert-Murdochs-Empire

[UpInArms]

2. It sounds like Chris Wallace is talking about Faux

- calling them crybabies

:shrug:

[calimary]

4. Well, you guys ought to know, wallace.

Sounds like Pox Noise is the biggest bunch of crybabies I've dealt with in my 56 years of living.

[unkachuck]

5. 'crybabies', wallace?

....why would anyone to the left of Attila the Hun give a rats ass what you or faux news thinks? You're lucky Dems will even talk to you....and I would encourage Dems not to....

[underpants]

26. I was not aware that Chris had been leaching off his father's name for a whole 30 years

I thought he was just flondering around until Fox gave him a timeslot that no one watches and only serves to provide sound bites to confirm what they were only going to report anyway

[AlbertCat]

134. You're lucky Dems will even talk to you

They go on that channel all the time! It just legitimizes it. If all Dems boycotted Fox News, and they were not treated as a news organization ( no White House press passes, no embedding with troops, no interviews, no advanced knowledge of news conferences, etc.), it wouldn't sink, but it would have to pull the "They're afraid of us" meme. To which Dems could reply "We only go on legitimate news programs, not propaganda shows." If this happened over and over and over....it would not sink Fox News, but it would make it even MORE of a joke.

[Arkana]

6. ABC, CNN, CBS, and NBC are loving it.

[Left Coast2020]

42. I adopted Keith Olbermann's label for this discusting network:

CLUSTER FAUX!!!

:kick:

[AlbertCat]

135. Close...but no cigar (like Fox News)

It's "cluster fox" not "cluster faux" (pronounced foe)


And it's "disGusting", not "discusting".


But you'll get it right the next time.

[Aragorn]

8. I'm sorry...

what program did he say this on again?

[krispos42]

9. As usual, SOP for the Bushies becomes an outrage when Obama does it

How many times did Bush call on Helen Thomas? Once? Twice?

[47of74]

12. My message to the Faux News Teabaggers is

[Rozlee]

14. Fux News doesn't have a tinfoil hat big enough to fit over Obama's ears

Because all that crowd over there and their viewers are as crazy as batshit with nuts. If I were Obama, I'd be scared to go near them for fear I'd catch crazy. Maybe that's why he's staying away.

[Libertas1776]

16. This is the best way

to destroy Faux, by marginalizing them in the same way they have been trying to marginalize this President, and then giving all of the White House's attention to the other networks, CNN, MSNBC, ABC etc, who will in turn only further marginalize Faux. Its a lovely little cycle ain't it.

[Grassy Knoll]

18. Great +1 to you sir. n/t

[Sirveri]

47. It's also possible that cycle could go insular.

Then we all get to hear all this wacked out stupid dreck they spew from crazies who only get their news from FAUX. Ignoring things doesn't tend to make them go away. I really don't care about them going away so much as stopping them from blatantly lying at every breath. Unfortuantly I don't see a treatment option for that other than complete elimination of their network. Preferably by reinstatment of the fairness doctrine and subsequent death by litigation.

[BrklynLiberal]

17. Hard to imagine caring less what Chris Wallace thinks, says or feels...

[mwb970]

53. Hearing Wallace call Dems "crybabies" is pretty rich.

Especially after the constant whining and moaning from the right ever since THEY LOST. You want a crybaby, Chris? I'll give you a crybaby!



WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!

[onlyadream]

116. Baahhaawwaaaa! I love it!!! nt

[DainBramaged]

19. When Sean Hannity learns to say "Mr. President" maybe they'll reconsider

until then, FAUX off.

[chitown606]

33. I agree

Respect the President and he will respect you.

[Suji to Seoul]

48. What? Cluster Fox showing respect to our legitimately elected President?

They only show respect to election stealing, puppet pResidents who are nothing more than mouthpieces for corporations, war profiteers, Christian Taliban and propaganda factories. . .like Cluster Fox!

[Historic NY]

20. Again Fox news needs to be ignored by the POTUS

[curiousdemo]

21. Get Ya'll punk asses in line.....

and wait till hell freezes over. Then and only then you'll get an interview.

[alp227]

22. So Fox's programming decision backfired

Because they wouldn't show the president's past two big speeches (the July news conference and September joint session), the Obama White House figured that Fox is gonna be hostile. However, Fox News was more than willing to let chimpy ol' Bush spew out his dishonesties about "Iraq's WMDs" and all sorts of other BS with "softball interviews" (as Media Matters pointed out)

[Ineeda]

49. dupe, sorry n/t

[Ineeda]

50. If I recall, they didn't carry the speech to schoolkids, either.

It's time to stop calling on Faux 'reporters' at briefings and news conferences too, ala Helen Thomas in the Bush years. Can't have it both ways, assholes.

[alp227]

104. the president's education speech was only on CSPAN right?

I don't know which TV networks showed Obama's school speech besides CSPAN; it was intended for educational viewing.

[Jane Austin]

128. I was travelling at the time, but didn't

CNN show it in its entirety?

[Ineeda]

131. I believe you're correct. My error. n/t

[grahamhgreen]

23. Our democracy needs the FAIRNESS DOCTRINE restored.

[RoccoR5955]

60. The NEW Fairness Doctrine is the Media Ownership Reform Act

Sponsored by Congressman Maurice Hinchey (D-NY22)

"The Media Ownership Reform Act seeks to restore integrity and diversity to America's media system by lowering the number of media outlets that one company is permitted to own in a single market. The bill also reinstates the Fairness Doctrine to protect fairness and accuracy in journalism."

check out http://www.house.gov/hinchey/issues/mora.shtml for all the details.

My Congressman has been trying to get this passed for YEARS. It's high time that it got done!

[grahamhgreen]

100. Thanks for the info - I'll call Cong. John Lewis about it!

[onlyadream]

117. That's exactly what we need!

How do we put pressure on Congress to pass this bill?

[RoccoR5955]

138. You call your elected representitives, and tell other people.

Like I have been doing for a long time now!

[lordsummerisle]

145. Thanks

I wasn't aware of that bill, it seems like a good one...

[tavalon]

24. I'm guessing they know plenty about being whinny

Barack is just cutting you out of the loop, as is appropriate. Consider yourselves in time out. I hope it's forever, you partisan hacks.

[underpants]

25. Whoops Dana you didn't know what in the rest of the article and affirmed it

Dana Perino, who served as White House press secretary for President George W. Bush, says the president risks "diluting the bully pulpit" by doing so many interviews in such a short period of time.

"The next time they really want to pack a punch, they might have to ask Tom DeLay if they can cut in on 'Dancing with the Stars,'" Perino told ABC News.

[droidamus2]

54. Interesting concept

So the idea of the 'bully pulpit' is through the prestige and power of the President of the United States you can almost force opportunities to talk to the American people and present your points on the important ideas of your administration. Perino tries to claim that the more you present your ideas the weaker the 'bully pulpit' is. Am I to conclude in Perino's world the strongest possible use of the 'bully pulpit' is to say nothing? I guess if you have a constituency that only watches one channel, FOX, and you are only interested in really reaching them you could go with the concept that one big dramatic appearance is better than many smaller ones. On the other hand, if you want to reach the widest audience including those that are not part of your immediate constituency the President Obama is doing the right thing.

[underpants]

68. So is she just trying to sort of tell him to shut up?

that is another way of looking at what she said.

I guess she thinks that the POTUS is just supposed to get one issue and hammer it home..... uh huh see where that inability or unwillingness to GOVERN got us

[JDPriestly]

28. It would be a waste of time for Obama to appear on Fox News.

Fox News doesn't really want to give him time. Fox just wants to guilt-trip Obama.

[mvd]

41. Agree completely

It showed because the speech gave Obama positive coverage. Unfair and unbalanced FAUX wants to put their own negative spin on an interview.

[madamesilverspurs]

29. Hmmm, being scolded by Chris Wallace.

That's kinda like being told that you can't have fried dog poo for dinner. Shucky darn.

[onehandle]

30. Shut. Them. Out. Kick their lying asses out of the West Wing media center.

Kick them to the curb for the next 7 years, 3 months.

[HEyHEY]

37. Again, I agree. I'm not asking for them to be perfect....

But the absolute bullshit way they thumb their nose at everyone who doesn't agree with them and are proudly bias absolves the White House from giving them any press credentials.

[AlbertCat]

144. absolves the White House from giving them any press credentials.

After all, does the National Inquirer get a WH press pass?

I mean, Clinton shaking hands with an alien (from space, not Mexico) is different from Glenn Beck's fact free rants...how? Exactly?

[Kablooie]

31. Fox has essentially become the National Enquirer of TV. They shouldn't be taken seriously.

Problem is that many voting imbeciles don't realize that.

[AusDem]

63. actually, fox should be taken very, very seriously and that's because

its owned by Rupert Murdoch.

Read the following diaries from Daily Kos:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/9/18/780918/-An-Aussie-Visiting-AmericaAdrenalin-Media

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/9/19/781718/-An-Aussie-Visiting-AmericaFox-News

The first one very clearly outlines what Rupert Murdoch's NewsCorp seems to engage in countries other than the US. Down here in Australia as well, they manufactured a fake controversy to harrass and potentially bring down a democratically elected progressive (to some extent) government.

The second one is an amazing blow-by-blow of Faux's disrespect for and politicization of 9/11

[Skittles]

32. OBAMA SCORES!!!!

FOX is not a credible news source so no person with credibility need appear on that propaganda piece of shit network

[HEyHEY]

36. Yeah, he really has this time

I'm so sick of Dems taking some kind of imagined high road while ignoring the true sense of what should be done. For him to just basically say, "Fuck you, ya hacks" is brilliant because fox would NEVER take a high road or give respect, so why should any be given to them.

Keep it up, maybe when they realize they won't get any information until they become reasonably balanced they'll change their tune.

[Skittles]

44. well, they'll never change their tune

they're sheer propaganda - done very badly I might add - but credible folk need to follow Obama's lead and say enough is enough - everyone needs to call their FAIR AND BALANCED logo for what it is - sheer utter BULLSHIT - and refuse to participate

[Iggo]

34. So the White House is laughing. And Fox is whining.

But the White House folks are the crybabies.

Okay. Got it. Thanks for explaining it, Chris Wallace. I would've totally mischaracterized it if it wasn't for your astute analysis.

[HEyHEY]

35. He's doing the right thing across the board on this.... from experience I can say.....

That these asshole press secretaries from years gone by are only thinking about image and control. That's what they're paid to do. And the are responsible for the downward spiral that is modern western politics. There's no honest talk, they've turned it into a game of what they can gain and how. So, they don't understand with Obama going on all these talk shows he's properly inviting honest talk and not treating healthcare as an issue where he can win or lose personally. He's truly trying to expose to as many as possible what his idea is. And on such a critical issue it should be presented that way.

Fox news, however, in choosing not to show his speech has again showed they are not a news outlet, but a mouthpiece for a political ideology. And the President is under no obligation to talk to a political ideology machine.

When I was covering politics back home, no matter what I always gave the other side their say, even if I wanted the bastards dead because I couldn't stand their views. Swallowing your personal beliefs and letting other people talk is the basis of the job. Granted it's not always done well, but Fox flaunts the fact they don't give a shit about even trying to uphold that value. What's next, is obama to give individual bloggers interviews? Cause fox is essential a blog.

[The_Casual_Observer]

38. Chris Wallace must have suffered oxygen deprivation at some time,

Otherwise, why?

[rrneck]

39. More bully pulpit. More more more. nt

[Cobalt-60]

40. They're lucky they're not being punished

Faux is a fascist propaganda mouth piece that issues instruction to right wing terrorists.
When the situation is reversed the Torture Party has no hesitation about leaning on uncooperative press.

[fujiyama]

43. Who's whining?

The Obama administration knows that Fox isn't interested in an honest debate on anything. There's no point wasting time going there just to hear repuke talking points from the likes of that dipshit Chris Wallace.

I'm glad the admin is not dealing with these idiots. It's way past time to simply marginalize the station. It's not legitimate news in any sense and no one watching it cares about issues anyways. The station can keep its audience of birthers and teabaggers. Fuck them. Fuck them with a rusty pole.

[Myrina]

102. Bingo!

:thumbsup:

[rpannier]

45. Dana Perino former Bush spokesperson says they need to be conerned about too much exposure

She must still be thinking DUH-bya is in the White House.
Anytime Bush got exposure it was a disaster

[NYC Liberal]

55. Maybe Dana thinks this is better exposure:

[jeff30997]

56. Oh goodie ! I haven't used that pic in a long time:

:evilgrin:

[Raine]

46. Bwahahahahaha talk about a whining crybaby

Wallace & Faux take that "honor". :cry: :rofl:

[Enthusiast]

51. Fox News has zero credibility.

It's that simple. They are the propaganda arm of the GOP. And their propaganda becomes more outrageous by the hour.

Even a neutral journalist that tries their very best to be objective fails in that quest, at least in some small way. We all bring our life experiences to what we read, see and hear, to what we report on. Those at Fox News have not the slightest interest in objectivity, they don't even try. Fox News has an agenda that is not in the interest of the public good.

[Algorem]

57. FOX has to spend their hour on a memorial to Irving Kristol,don't they?

[RoccoR5955]

58. Fox "News" is not news, It's propaganda.

We all know that, and the administration knows that.

[NecklyTyler]

59. Chris Wallace ought to know about cry babies, Fox has Beck showing amateurs how it is done. n/t

[1776Forever]

61. Direct TV just took off the Versus Channel because they think it is a "infomercial" - really?

http://versus1.viewerlink.tv/

What the Hell is Fox News but a "infomercial" channel for the Repub's and their Billionaire owner?

Hmmmmmmmmm -

This Bill Moyers report says it ALL!

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/06292007/watch4.html

:argh:

[jimlup]

62. The 2nd Law of Republican scum

The 2nd law of Republican Scum: They will always accuse us of what they are doing and/or what they would do in that circumstance.

[L0oniX]

96. Exactly n/t

[ScottLand]

66. Boo Hoo!

[DFW]

69. Fox wants the chance to shout Obama down

He won't give it to them, and they are whining and throwing things. Well, OK, they've been throwing things for
a good while now.

They'll have to twiddle their thumbs while the literate wing of the American people are listening to what Obama has to say.

After all, we can only form our own opinions if we can hear him. Fox viewers, who have no need whatsoever of
an own opinion (they get theirs from Fox), prefer to see anyone who is not a neo-con get shouted down. Been
there, seen that--over and over and over again.

Let O'Really and Wallace go scream about "die Firma Issmayer" on their own time.

[fryguy]

70. Faux News will make a story out of it

I'm sure ever talking head on that network will be spewing on and on about how Obama went to every other network but was too "afraid" to show up to theirs....

[DutchLiberal]

71. Great, if only Obama had done this 3 months ago...

He's much too late with his support for health care reform.

[PatrynXX]

72. Punish or no punish. Whats the point?

Go on Fox and the audience is far far right wing. Like talking to a bunch of French (of offense love the French. especially their movies)in English. Won't get very far. Fox can Whine about it all they want. But the Acorn snafu kinda proved they are the fox gossip channel. TMZ style

[Jacobair]

73. I think Chris Wallace, who by the way is a disgrace to his

father's name, is still shell shocked from when Bill Clinton chewed him a new ass hole after he tried to get cute with the former President.
Huge mistake.

[AusDem]

129. haha, love that clip

was sitting there clapping BC for handing chris wallace his toupe back to him on a platter

journalism at its worst, BC's force of personality, and intellect at its best

[The Stranger]

155. I almost wish Bill would've taken off set and beat the shit out of him.

Looked like he was about to, too.

[Barack_America]

74. Fox doesn't have a news channel.

As Earnest noted, they have an "ideology" channel.

[Faygo Kid]

75. Ignore Faux. Don't even comment on them, and all Dems should just ignore them.

To the Administration: Don't even talk about Faux - don't apologize, don't rationalize, just ignore it. Let the inbreeders do their thing, but it's time to reject that clear and present danger to this nation.

[thisisenuff]

76. Tokyo Rose

I was recently reading a article about the NHK network during WW11. The tactics used to advance propaganda by mixing entertainment with attractive females to lure listeners in and slowly infect them with lies and hidden messages seems to be exactly the Fox news channels model. Tokyo Rose was tried for treason. Why not Fox news?

[laughingliberal]

77. The #1 Reason President Isn't Doing Fox

Got creeped out when Wallace kept suggesting they do a little teabagging after the interview.

[IcyPeas]

95. eewwwwwwwwww

[Ian David]

78. The only thing Fox "News" has left is access.

Revoke their press credentials.

Tell Democrats to refuse to give interviews or appear on their shows.

Stop sending them press releases and media advisories- take them out of the rolodexes.

Fox "News" will be reduced to trying to ambush senators in the supermarket parking lot.

[SalviaBlue]

83. Yes. This is exactly what should be done.

[Homer Wells]

81. It is a damn pity

that part of Mike Wallace's legacy is that sniveling, whining, devious, lying, pathetic excuse of a human being, Chris Wallace.
If any justification of (retroactive) abortion is needed, this sneering piece of crap is a damn good Exhibit A!

:mad: :grr:

[JBoy]

82. Fox only does reality shows. Except the "news", which is made up fake stuff.

[tentative.fox]

84. Intellectual Depth

I am impressed with the intellectual depth of this message thread. Never has there been such a sincere search for truth, and the honest quest to analyze each and every divergent perspective. Whenever I come here, I feel I am upon hallowed ground. Thanks, people!

[Name removed]

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[Vidar]

85. Reenact the Fairness Doctrine & FOX will die a quick death.

[TankLV]

89. Why go on the Official Repuke Party TV Station?!!!

Good for Obama - glad he's finally "seeing the writing on the wall" on this...

now, if only he would do it for the IMPORTANT issues!!!

[politic_vic]

91. They would only edit it to make him look stupid anyway.

[happygoluckytoyou]

97. WHO CARES!!!!! WHO WATCHES FUX NEWS ---- THEY ARE A LAUGHINGSTOCK, BUT A GOOD DANCE SHOW...

[totodeinhere]

113. Who watches?

They usually have more viewers than MSNBC and CNN combined. So somebody is watching.

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/fnc_scores_best_primetime_demo_of_2009_136101.asp

[ieoeja]

154. This was FOX broadcasting, not cable.

And the Sunday morning talk show on Fox broadcasting has fewer viewers than any of the Sunday morning shows on which Obama did appear on ABC, NBC, CBS and Univision.

Yes, the Spanish language Sunday morning news talk show has more viewers than Fox!

And, of course, the least of the broadcasting channels outperform the largest of the cable channels. Those channels may loom large among political junkies. But they are virtually invisible to the larger audience that makes up 90+% of the voting public.

[oedura]

105. The administration doesn't need to make excuses for not talking to Fox...

They're not a legitimate news organization. End of story.

[Piewhacket]

106. Wallace and OReilly throw a crybaby FIT! WAAAAA WAAAAAA. Grow up, snivelers.

[appamado amata padam]

108. Now that's a little more like it.

I never watch TV, but know more than enough from reading here, that Fox is just not worth the effort. Time to stop conciliation is long past nigh.

[No Elephants]

109. Why should the President treat Fox as though it were a real network?

It's comprised of a collection of boils on the ass or real news programming.

[and-justice-for-all]

110. The Joesph Goebbles channel can kiss my ass & fuck you Mr. Wallace! nt

[samsingh]

118. so fox is whinning that they are being ignored. poor fox babies

there must be some traitors they could interview and promote.

[patrice]

119. Health Care/Insurance Reform is good for Small Businesses. Medicare for All!

[samsingh]

125. that's what we need to continue to do

[Twist_U_Up]

132. soooo 19 skinny arabs with box cutters hijacked 4 planes,3 for 4 in targets

healthcare ..........?

[humbled_opinion]

136. Maybe Congress needs to look at some legislation

To keep truth and honesty in reporting. Faux is nothing but lies and spin and the danger is that it entices the ignorant and ill informed and serves as a hot bed for promoting the hatred of racists and bigots. It stirs the ignorant Americans emotions using Religion, Guns and some context about knowing what true patriotism is. ENOUGH! It needs to be shut down.

[defendandprotect]

139. Go. . . go. . . go . .. Obama !!!

[mariawr]

141. C W = WATB n/t

[Prophet 451]

146. I love Wallace's line

No, Chris, the moral of the story is that if you spend 24/7 trying to sandbag someone, that someone is not inclined to deal with you.