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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 02:00 PM
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Deposition of Sibel Edmonds Underway, DoJ a 'No Show', All Questions Being Answered...
Source: The BRAD BLOG

8:00am PT (11:00am ET): The deposition has now begun inside the National Whisteblowers Center, and has not, apparently, been blocked by an assertion of the "state secrets" privilege by the DoJ.

The BRAD BLOG has some folks covering outside the testimony this morning, and I just spoke to some of the folks on the ground outside the NWC, just before the deposition was set to begin, including David Krikorian who flew in last night from Ohio.

Krikorian said that he hadn't yet seen anybody from the DoJ there yet, and both he and Edmonds confirmed that there hadn't been any new action (that they knew about) since the late-night legal back and forth between the DoJ and OEC on Friday night. Though Krikorian added that he "wouldn't be surprised" if someone from DoJ showed up. We'll find out later today if they did.

Read more: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7347



Happening right now.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 02:01 PM
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1. i wish i was a fly on the wall
at that depo
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 02:09 PM
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2. Be prepared for...
Not a peep from the MSM. Rachel or Keith, maybe.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 02:29 PM
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7. It's being videotaped.
Maybe the tape will get to UTube or something.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 02:12 PM
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3. K&R ! This could be uncovering much more of the corruption iceberg...

"She talked about the Rand Corp., Brewster-Jennings, nuclear secrets..."
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 02:14 PM
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4. If this gets stopped, or something happens to SE, I promise I will drop what I'm doing and go
immediately into the streets with a saucepan and a cooking spoon to bang it with and I will urge others to join me to save our nation from The Family cabal.
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 02:16 PM
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5. You go girl!
Edited on Sat Aug-08-09 02:30 PM by Usrename
The way I understand it, this is public testimony, correct?

Where is the media?

on edit> update at bottom of page here http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7341

video intended to be release immediately following the hearing, transcript to follow
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 05:03 PM
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19. Where's the media? Oh, getting their nails done, a pedicure,
wardrobe fitting, hair sculpted, body wrapped...ya know...they are where the important things are happening.
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 06:23 PM
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30. That's so cynical-they NEED to primp like that before reporting the latest celebrity gossip
Edited on Sat Aug-08-09 06:23 PM by abq e streeter
which enquiring minds like mine ,so desperately need to know. ( as always, hope I don't need this but just in case : :sarcasm: )
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 02:20 PM
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6. Kicked and Recommended. This could be BIG!
:wow: Read the link!
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 02:30 PM
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8. K&R nt
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GregD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 02:31 PM
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9. It's going to be on Youtube!
Per Brad's post:

Krikorian went on to say that he expects to release the video of the deposition, which, along with the transcript, is the property of his legal team. says "There will be...This could be a 10 part YouTube video segment, that we'll put out there."
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Jazzgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 02:32 PM
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10. Kickety kick kick.
Kicking again to keep it up. This might get very interesting.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 02:33 PM
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11. The deposition may be posted on Youtube.
Krikorian went on to say that he expects to release the video of the deposition, which, along with the transcript, is the property of his legal team. says "There will be...This could be a 10 part YouTube video segment, that we'll put out there."
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 02:36 PM
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12. K&R
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BradBlog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 02:42 PM
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13. LIVE BLOG: Deposition of Sibel Edmonds Underway, DoJ a 'No Show', All Questions Being Answered...
Source: BRAD BLOG



LIVE BLOG: Deposition of Sibel Edmonds Underway, DoJ a 'No Show', All Questions Being Answered...
'State Secrets' privilege NOT asserted, FBI whistleblower answering ALL questions on Turkish infiltration of U.S. Government...

Live blogging coverage of the Sibel Edmonds deposition at the National Whistleblowers Center in Washington D.C. For background see previous coverage at links below...

Some incredible stuff happening...Some highlights from our coverage so far...
8:00am PT (11:00am ET): The deposition has now begun inside the National Whisteblowers Center, and has not, apparently, been blocked by an assertion of the "state secrets" privilege by the DoJ.

8:40am PT (11:40am ET): During a break, Edmonds told me in a brief phone conversation during the break: "Bruce Fein is raising objections to everything", though that's to be expected. She said she's been asked, and has answered, questions on Dan Burton (R-IN), Dennis Hastert (R-IL), Stephen Solarz (D-NY), and other questions on those high-ranking officials and lobbyists in her "State Secrets Gallery".

10:09am PT (1:09pm ET): Wow... just had lengthy conversation with Krikorian about Edmonds' testimony. Here's Krikorian, directly quoted. Hang on to your seats...

"From my opinion, if I'm some of the current members of Congress, I'd be very very worried about the information that's going to come out of this. There are current members of Congress that she has implicated in bribery, espionage. It's not good. It's crazy, it's absolutely crazy. For people in power situations in the United States, who know about this information, if they don't take action against it, in my opinion, it's negligence.

(Which current members have been implicated?)

(Dan) Burton (R-IN), described as basically accepting bribes and involved in espionage for the Turkish government...she could not discuss the extremely illegal activities that Mr. Burton committed against U.S. interests, as she put it.

Also, a current female member of Congress who has been blackmailed by the Turkish Government...called a 'hooking exercise'...she's apparently bi-sexual and they bugged her apartment, she's married with children, and they set up a relationship with another female who went in and had sexual relationships with her. And they had all the episodes bugged within this current Representatives home and they blackmailed her. ... She wouldn't give her name, but her photograph ....


LIVE-BLOGGING CONTINUES, DEPO NOW IN CROSS-EXAMINATION:
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7347

Previously...

Late-night Friday...
EXCLUSIVE UPDATE: DoJ Pressures Ohio Election Commission to Block Edmonds Testimony
Long-gagged FBI whistleblower re-iterates request for citizen media in D.C. to show up at Saturday morning deposition...
FULL STORY, DOCUMENTS: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7346

Friday...
EXCLUSIVE: FBI Attempts to Block Edmonds Testimony in OH Election Case; Attorneys Say Effort Insufficient to Stop Her
Whistleblower org says FBI/DoJ attempting 'censorship', trying to 'silence whistleblower' answering 'lawful subpoena'
Letters from FBI, Edmonds attorney posted...
FULL STORY, DOCUMENTS: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7345

Wednesday night:
FBI Whistleblower Sibel Edmonds Subpoenaed, Set to 'Break' Gag Order Unless DoJ Intercedes
Former agency translator called to testify in Ohio election case this Saturday on Turkish infiltration of U.S. government...
FULL STORY: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7341



Read more: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7347
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 02:44 PM
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14. Hey Brad. . .
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BradBlog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 07:44 PM
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32. My bad, annabanana...
Doing too much at once today (as I suspect u may have noticed). Please forgive me this time for not having noticed the other one! :-(

Thanks to all who've been kicking, rec'ing and otherwise helping to make noise on all of this today, and over last day or two!
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 07:54 PM
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33. Bruce Fein, as in one of my favorite constitutional lawyers and fervent advocate of
impeaching Bush and Cheney? What's his role in this?

Thanks for the updates, Brad.
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memory Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 03:23 PM
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15. At Last! At Last!
:bounce:

I hope this culminates in lots of proesecutions and imprisonment of perps.
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 03:48 PM
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16. K & R
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 04:07 PM
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17. What a brave women. My heartfelt appreciation for her and
her team of people for moving this forward. And thanks to those of you reporting on this, and those of you posting it here.
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Piewhacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 04:38 PM
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18. Important story... but frankly,
Edited on Sat Aug-08-09 04:44 PM by Piewhacket
the DOJ letter was not a cease and desist letter, it was
CLEARLY (a) declining to consent, (b) stating objections,
providing notice and preserving rights to later object
(or prosecute).

oops- adding, (basically) they signaled they were not
going to intervene.
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nikto Donating Member (414 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 05:14 PM
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20. OOPS!!! Stop the presses!! Michael Jackson just died again!!!!!!!!
"The 2nd death of Michael Jackson
is expected to dominate the news for weeks..."
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Piewhacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 08:12 PM
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34. Check your meds, friend.
Or are you saying you agree its not a big surprise
deal that DOJ didn't show?
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 05:15 PM
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21. Not a mention of it on google news...
Palin is there, of course, but nary a word of this. :grr:

http://news.google.com/news?pz=1&topic=n&ict=ln
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 05:20 PM
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22. ok the O admin is back on my xmas card list
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Piewhacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 08:20 PM
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35. A tough call. OK then on the xmas card list, but keep yer good eye on em a spell.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 05:30 PM
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23. If it is not covered by the news, then at what point do we stop calling what we have as news? n/t
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 06:27 PM
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31. I date the official death of the "news" as when they did not cover the
oceans of humanity marching past the RNC in NYC in 2004.

They are pretty much dropping all pretense of being news lately, however.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 07:58 AM
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42. News is news, whether the MSM covers it or not.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 05:39 PM
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24. They called DOJ's bluff? Wow. That's better than flying pigs!!
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 05:49 PM
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25. Well this is fasinating.
"Basically," she said, "I told them how Marc Grossman disclosed" that Brewster Jennings was a CIA front company] to the target of an FBI investigation. "And it was under oath and that some some lives may have been lost."

"Novak has nothing to do with it. Wilson has nothing to do with it. Valerie Plame has nothing to do with it. The whole operation has to do with something totally different and it had to do with the American Turkish Council and the Turkish clients who were about to hire Brewster Jennings as an analyst ... and Grossman found out about it, and tipped off his diplomatic contact who was a target of the FBI counter-intelligence, and that person notified the ISI, (Pakistani Intelligence Agency) etc.

She says that Brewster Jenning was then "dismantled as soon as the FBI notified the CIA" after which "FBI requested CIA to do a damage assessment, to see if lives would be lost."

All of this, she re-iterated was "long before, three years before" Novak outed Valerie Plame as a CIA operative in his newspaper column.

Brewster Jennings was "absolutely" dismantled in August of 2001."

That was a hell of a summer in 2001, just before September.

Thanks for the thread, notesdev.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 06:00 PM
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27. wow, fascinating info, n/t


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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 12:15 AM
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39. Thankfully I have DU so I can read this stuff
:hi:
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 11:02 AM
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44. I hear you, mvd.
:hi:
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 05:59 PM
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26. Marc Grossman revealed Brewster Jennings as a CIA operation while 3rd at State dept.
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 06:02 PM
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28. Grossman got people killed and is guilty of treason and the FBI knows this?.
So why is he not in prison or dangling from a rope?
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 06:04 PM
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29. Sibel has exposed treason and traitors at the highest level and silence from the MSM?
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 11:20 PM
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38. we don't know if he got people killed
the allegation is that he told a certain person, not the entire public. in any case, i always asked this during the Plame outing... Grossman prepped the memo that had Plame's name in it on Libby's orders. why did they need to do all of the tricks in finding out who Plame was when Grossman already knew? no one could ever answer that one :(
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 05:56 PM
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46. Hi Larisa, would looking at Grossman's and Wilson's relationship more closely be important now?
Edited on Mon Aug-10-09 05:59 PM by cascadiance
It's probably too early to make any real conjectures on the whole Brewster Jennings thing and what that means for the whole Scooter libby / Valerie Plame case, but it would appear that perhaps both the theory of the outing of Plame was to get revenge on Joe Wilson and the counter theory that it was more to shut down Brewster Jennings at that time might be called into question now as part of an elaborate scheme to cover up what Grossman did.

Article connecting Grossman with Joe Wilson:

http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/1640

Conversely it could also be something like Brewster Jennings being a more visible disinformation effort, and that Brewster Jennings was just a front for Plame's doing other work in a more active and still secret group at the time of her outing. If this is the case, then perhaps there is a concern of how much we should expose from a national security standpoint, but then again, with her outing, etc. the question is how do we keep those involved accountable so that the aren't doing evil things too, or if Brewster Jennings was really a victim of some treasonous actions by Grossman.

Similar speculation is hard not to make and wonder about in the case of Larry Franklin and the AIPAC spies and allegations of anti-semitism, etc. going on there. Seems still too much like there's a ot being covered up that shouldn't be. From today's Washington Post...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 03:27 AM
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41. This is an actual bombshell.
Edited on Sun Aug-09-09 03:27 AM by Bolo Boffin
And which is why Bush and Cheney knew they could burn Valerie Plame three years later -- they'd had time to mop up any further damage from the very public exposure of Brewster Jennings that would ensue.
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George II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 08:39 PM
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36. So all the DOJ worries were for naught?
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 09:14 PM
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37. I hope she's being asked very open-ended questions!
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 01:44 AM
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40. Who's the congresswoman? Kilpatrick?
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 02:22 PM
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43. Nope. Wrong year.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 04:06 PM
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45. kick ... when are we going to get more news on this???
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