EXCLUSIVE: Al Qaeda eyes bio attack from Mexico

[AlphaCentauri]

Source: The Washington Times


Seeks white militias as allies

U.S. counterterrorism officials have authenticated a video by an al Qaeda recruiter threatening to smuggle a biological weapon into the United States via tunnels under the Mexico border, the latest sign of the terrorist group's determination to stage another mass-casualty attack on the U.S. homeland.

The video aired earlier this year as a recruitment tool makes clear that al Qaeda is looking to exploit weaknesses in U.S. border security and also is willing to ally itself with white militia groups or other anti-government entities interested in carrying out an attack inside the United States, according to counterterrorism officials interviewed by The Washington Times.

The officials, who spoke only on the condition they not be named because of the sensitive nature of their work, stressed that there is no credible information that al Qaeda has acquired the capabilities to carry out a mass biological attack although its members have clearly sought the expertise.

The video first aired by the Arabic news network Al Jazeera in February and later posted to several Web sites shows Kuwaiti dissident Abdullah al-Nafisi telling a room full of supporters in Bahrain that al Qaeda is casing the U.S. border with Mexico to assess how to send terrorists and weapons into the U.S.



Read more: http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jun/03/al-qaeda-eyes-bio-attack-via-mexico-border/?feat=home_top5_read

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Looks like a minuteman press release to me, what you think?

[xchrom]

1. it's the washington times -- might as well be rush. nt

[get the red out]

7. Or Dick Cheney

Right on cue, I would say. The President in the Middle East, Dick Cheney has been talking his ass off....

[L. Coyote]

24. Let's have a conspiracy, then release a video detailing it, then let's tell the wingnuts

Yeah, this is plausible if you are a propagandist without a noodle.

On edit. But just in case let's go to the UN for a resolution to invade Mexico.

[leveymg]

2. Only one problem with that theory - the Minutemen are a "white militia group."

:evilgrin:

[liberalmuse]

3. What an inane response.

"If freedom to marry means, as he said, that people ought to be free to enter into any kind of union they wish, well then, he's virtually endorsing polyamory and polygamy, and incestuous marriage, and bestiality," Barber claims. " no holds barred here."

Neither animals nor children nor molestation victims are able to give what we would consider, "consent". Dishonest asshats. And yes, consenting adults should be able to enter into marriage of their choosing.

[drm604]

5. Did you post to the wrong thread?

:shrug:

[liberalmuse]

26. Hey, thanks for being cool.

Yes, I did indeed post in the wrong thread, and thank you so much to all those who pointed out the obvious. That will teach me to post at work while toggling between 10 screens, LOL. Holy shit, this is fucked up.

[drm604]

40. Don't worry about it.

We all make mistakes. I just thought that you should be aware of it so you could repost your response where you intended.

[DCKit]

8. Reply to the wrong thread much?

It's so out of place as to be hysterical. You're going to have people saying "WTF?" all afternoon.

[Soylent Brice]

18. .

j/k

[drm604]

4. White militia groups?

I can't imagine white militia groups allying with Al Qaeda.

[leveymg]

6. You should read, "Others Unknown" by Tim McVeigh's lawyer

Then, GOOGLE: Strassmeir and Elohim City

[xchrom]

9. to get what they want?

anyone who is a nutjob zealot will do what they must to forward their agenda.

[drm604]

10. Sure but isn't eliminating non-white non-Christians one of the things they want?

Wouldn't it be like allying with their enemy?

[xchrom]

12. you make what allies you need for the moment -- believing you will win the war.

a time honored version of the 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend'.

[JDPriestly]

15. Rational thought is soon lost when people embrace violence as a way

of solving problems. In other words, when people are consumed by anger and the desire to be violent, they don't think logically. They will ally with anyone who shares their anger and hatred. I have seen this in people . . . . It is an amazing thing. And the worst of it is that the irrational red, hot anger can be sort of infectious. In other words it spreads from one person to the next like a disease. And of course it gets less and less rational.

Cool head, cool heart, ruled by reason and non-violent in all things. That is the way to lead a gentle, loving, joyful life.

I recommend Non-Violent Communication by Rosenberg. Google it.

[xchrom]

19. already there -- but don't preach that here --

you'll start a FLAME war.

[leveymg]

13. Grand Mufti and Adolf Hitler had a marriage of convenience

and some really twisted children. The alliance between Nazis and Islamic extremists goes back to 1937. See,

Neo-Nazi Al Qaeda
The rise of Al Qaeda and the explosion of neo-Nazi activity in Germany and elsewhere ... And Oklahoma is also home to Elohim City, a neo-Nazi paramilitary ...
http://www.hvk.org/articles/0304/57.html

[xchrom]

21. you forgot to mention all of the riots

that happend everytime more europeans appeared all over palestine.

history has a way of having a two edges to it's sword.

it wasn't that the mufti was a 'nazi' in the european/american way of thinking of things -- though
'nazi' can used as a term of convenience as in your case.

[atreides1]

20. The Alliance would be temporary at best

Besides, Al Qaeda has higher standards then to ally themselves with the Minuteman!:D

[xchrom]

22. yes. the alliance would be temporary -- and right wing

racist radicals have reached out to religious nuts before.

[Blue Meany]

16. I can. There were some who were happy about 9/11...

I remember someone posting on one of those militia forums that anyone who wants to kill Jews and New Yorkers can't be too bad.

[abq e streeter]

11. From the Moonie Washington Times, so take with multiple grains of salt...

nevertheless, I also disagree with many progressives I know who dismiss all warnings of Muslim terrorists' interest in slaughtering innocents. Doesn't mean we don't have plenty of those types ourselves ( as we just saw ,once again, in Wichita), or even that the official version of 9-11 and the subsequent politically motivated color-coded alerts weren't a crock, but bottom line is there ARE violently evil religious fanatics of varied religions,certainly including Islamists, who get their rocks off by concocting methods of killing lots and lots of people. I agree with Sec. Napolitano; all this stuff does need to be taken seriously, although, again, anything from the Washington Times that's not corroborated in real newspapers etc, should be assumed to be nothing more than blatant reich-wing propaganda.

[SkyDaddy7]

14. I hear what everyone is saying...

However, to blow this off as complete BS would be a mistake in my opinion. Exploiting right wing religious groups who hate our Government would be a brilliant idea as far as Al-Qaeda goes.

That idea actually gives me pause.

Of course, on the otherhand these right wing groups do not like non-whites so who knows?


Remember there were rumoprs McVeigh and Nichols had help from a mysterious Middle Eastern man.

[Ilsa]

29. I have to agree. Check out this article:

Texas Sheriffs Say Terrorists Entering US from Mexico Daily News Article - August 21, 2006
(by Kevin Mooney, CNSNews.com) -

The chief law enforcement officers of several Texas counties along the southern U.S. border warn that Arabic-speaking individuals are learning Spanish and integrating into Mexican culture before paying smugglers to sneak them into the United States. The Texas Sheriffs' Border Coalition believes those individuals are likely terrorists and that drug cartels and some members of the Mexican military are helping them get across the border.

Sheriff Sigifredo Gonzalez of Zapata County, Texas told Cybercast News Service that Iranian currency, military badges in Arabic, jackets and other clothing are among the items that have been discovered along the banks of the Rio Grande River. The sheriff also said there are a substantial number of individuals crossing the southern border into the U.S. who are not Mexican. He described the individuals in question as well-funded and able to pay so-called "coyotes" - human smugglers - large sums of money for help gaining illegal entry into the U.S.

Although many of the non-Mexican illegal aliens are fluent in Spanish, Gonzalez said they speak with an accent that is not native. SNIP

http://www.studentnewsdaily.com/daily-news-article/texas_sheriffs_say_terrorists_entering_us_from_mexico/

This is as big of a weakness as the screening at US ports.

[Hugabear]

31. You are quoting a RIGHT-WING site?

CNSNews is about as right-wing as they come.

[Ilsa]

35. These sheriffs work about 200 miles from my town. If what they are

saying is accurate, maybe I should be concerned, versus ignoring it.

[fascisthunter]

17. hahahaha... they managed to lump both Mexico with Al Queda

how fucking transparent... the Moonie Cult Times no less

[hughee99]

23. Are they going to claim credit for Swine Flu? n/t

[frylock]

25. 25 Chechen terrorists illegally entered the United States from Mexico in July

i'm still waiting for those chechen backpackers to strike. an old chestnut from 10/2004

Chechen terrorists probed

By Bill Gertz

THE WASHINGTON TIMES

U.S. security officials are investigating a recent intelligence report that a group of 25 Chechen terrorists illegally entered the United States from Mexico in July.

The Chechen group is suspected of having links to Islamist terrorists seeking to separate the southern enclave of Chechnya from Russia, according to officials familiar with intelligence reports. Members of the group, said to be wearing backpacks, secretly traveled to northern Mexico and crossed into a mountainous part of Arizona that is difficult for U.S. border security agents to monitor, said officials speaking on the condition of anonymity.

The intelligence report was supplied to the U.S. government in late August or early September and was based on information from an intelligence source that has been proved reliable in other instances, one official said. A second U.S. official said the report is being investigated, but said it could not be determined whether the group of Chechens actually entered the country, as the intelligence source reported. "We don't know whether or not that report is true," this official said.

http://www.homelandsecurityus.net/border%20security%20breeched/25_chechen_enter_the_us_from_mex.htm

[Hugabear]

32. Ah yes - the Chechens with backpack nukes. I remember that story

I remember the likes of Tancredo, Beck, Savage, and other right-wing lunatics screaming about Chechens bringing in backpack nukes, and how that there were supposedly up to two dozen nukes currently in the US waiting to go off.

[KamaAina]

27. Great. The Moonie Times has become a slightly higher-class version of the Weekly World News.

:eyes:

edit: and I do mean slightly.

[ohio2007]

28. meanwhile, China opens up three new baby formula coal fired factories power plant factories

They put Chihuahua's in the dog food still don't they ?

[Ilsa]

30. Consider This Source: Texas Sheriffs Say Terrorists Entering US from Mexico

http://www.studentnewsdaily.com/daily-news-article/texas_sheriffs_say_terrorists_entering_us_from_mexico/

Texas Sheriffs Say Terrorists Entering US from Mexico
(by Kevin Mooney, CNSNews.com) - The chief law enforcement officers of several Texas counties along the southern U.S. border warn that Arabic-speaking individuals are learning Spanish and integrating into Mexican culture before paying smugglers to sneak them into the United States. The Texas Sheriffs' Border Coalition believes those individuals are likely terrorists and that drug cartels and some members of the Mexican military are helping them get across the border.

Sheriff Sigifredo Gonzalez of Zapata County, Texas told Cybercast News Service that Iranian currency, military badges in Arabic, jackets and other clothing are among the items that have been discovered along the banks of the Rio Grande River. The sheriff also said there are a substantial number of individuals crossing the southern border into the U.S. who are not Mexican. He described the individuals in question as well-funded and able to pay so-called "coyotes" - human smugglers - large sums of money for help gaining illegal entry into the U.S.

Although many of the non-Mexican illegal aliens are fluent in Spanish, Gonzalez said they speak with an accent that is not native.
SNIP

[Hugabear]

33. You like your Right-Wing propaganda so much you had to post it twice in this thread?

n/t

[AlphaCentauri]

34. Stupid terrorist or stupid right wingers or both

Can't believe they tried to get into the US illegally after 911 wearing patches stating their secret mission, real terrorist don't do that, unless this is another RW tale.

"We see patches on jackets from countries where we know al Qaeda to be active," Gonzalez explained.

The patches appear to be military badges with Arabic lettering. One patch in particular, discovered this past December, caught the attention of federal homeland security officials, according to Gonzalez and local officials familiar with the investigation.

Sheriff Wayne Jernigan of Valverde County, Texas, told members of the U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee in March about one patch that read "midnight mission" and displayed an airplane flying over a building heading towards a tower. Translators with DHS have said some of the various phrases and slogans on the items could mean "martyr," "way to eternal life," or "way to immortality."

[richmx2]

36. Propaganda, and you're falling for it.

Excuse me for breaking in here, but you guys are just plain wrong about this.

Of course there are Arabs in Mexico that speak Spanish. Carlos Slim is one of the better known ones. Not all immigrants to America are necessarily immigrants to the United States. There has been a large Arab community in Mexico (and in Central America, as well as Colombia and Venezuela) since the early 20th century. Following the 1924 Immigration Act, non-European immigrants to the Americas generally did head for Latin America, so there are sizable Latin American communities that are not Spanish speaking, or are not your standard "Hispanic" people. Given the more recent situation, which has made it well-nigh impossible for emigrants from Arab countries to get residency in the U.S., there are Arabs in Mexico seeking to cross irregularly into the U.S. -- a large number being Chaldean Catholics from Iraq (you know, those people who had been in Iraq since the first century AD, now being driven out, "thanks" to the U.S. "liberation").

Secondly, while Al Quada is a reactionary group, and it might make some sense that they'd join forces with similarly reactionary groups in the United States, there is no evidence of Al Quada operatives in Mexico, nor has there ever been such evidence. I worked for a small west Texas daily when the stories about sheriffs finding "Arab" patches first surfaced (at a freakish congressional hearing, described by Adrian Garica -- then a city councilman, now Harris County (Houston) Sheriff as a "dog and pony show"). I would have to find my notes, but my recollection is that both Sheriff Gonzales and Sheriff Jernigan suggested their "evidence" was given more credibility than it deserved.

Terrorists don't need no stinkin' patches, and it's unlikely a deputy in Valverde County would know an Iranian military patch, or whatever it was supposed to be. What I saw could have been anything, but then, I wouldn't know Iranian military patches either... nor would it mean an Iranian secret invasion, or anything else.

Carrying around a suitcase full of anthrax sounds scary, til you start to think of the logistics of it. How would it get to Mexico, and from where (those secret labs that didn't exist in Iraq, perhaps?). Wouldn't a bunch of dead customs agents at the Mexico City airport be kind of a tipoff (assuming it didn't kill everyone on the plane coming in... or is this dude coming in by submarine, or...???). Please... because some guy who doesn't know anything about Mexico apparently came up with a scenario that even the late Robert Ludlam would have been hard-pressed to write, doesn't mean it was serious, or even plausible.

I am not a regular DU subscriber, and went to the trouble of registering just to post this reply, but what bothered me enough to go to the trouble is that even supposedly "progressive" Democrats are seizing on the usual anti-Mexican stereotyping that finally convinced me to move permanently south of the Rio Grande, and live someplace relatively sane and safe.

[AlphaCentauri]

39. Don't assume that everybody in this board is progressive

the anti-Mexican stereotyping is not a trademark of the republicans both parties got their roots from the same tree.

[TheWatcher]

37. Interesting to Watch how some are getting Drunk Off The Propaganda

[Javaman]

38. washington times. enough said. nt