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BlueJessamine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 04:36 PM
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Gibbs touts Salon torture pix story
Source: Politico

"Important, Please Read": That's the header on an e-mail sent out to the press today by Robert Gibbs, pointing them to yesterday's Salon interview with Retired Army Maj. Gen. Antonio Taguba, who denied he was referring to the 44 photos Obama is fighting to keep secret when he told the Telegraph, "These pictures show torture, abuse, rape and every indecency."

Taguba told the website that he was referring to the hundreds of pictures he did review as the lead investigator into the Abu Ghraib abuse scandal, but not the 44 shots that are the subject of the ACLU lawsuit the administration is fighting. Gibbs' full note:

From White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs:

A number of you have asked about or reported on a recent article in the Telegraph that inaccurately described photos which are the subject of an ongoing lawsuit. Both the Department of Defense and the White House have said the article was wrong, and now the individual who was purported to be the source of the article has said it’s inaccurate. Given that this false report has been repeated around the world, and given the impact these negative reports have on our troops, I felt it was important for you to see this correction.


- Robert Gibbs





Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0509/23120.html



Taguba denies he's seen abuse photos suppressed by Obama

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/05/30/taguba/print.html

The general told a U.K. paper about images he saw investigating Abu Ghraib -- not photos Obama wants kept secret.
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Grown2Hate Donating Member (833 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 01:58 AM
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1. But clearly the ones he was describing were not released either?
Or am I somehow not remembering seeing them released? Either way, there are more atrocities than we know about.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 08:10 AM
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2. I seem to recall hearing there were hundreds of photos and some videos as well
It is quite possible that these particular pictures are not the ones showing rape and murder but those photos exist because they have been referred to numerous times by many different people including Republican Congressmen.
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BlueJessamine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 08:51 AM
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3. Scott Horton...
Edited on Sun May-31-09 08:52 AM by BlueJessamine
who wrote:

"Still other withheld photographs have been circulating among U.S. soldiers who served in Iraq. One soldier showed them to me, including a photograph in which a male in a U.S. military uniform receives oral sex from a female prisoner."


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x452561

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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 09:01 AM
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4. According to Obama, the 44 photos that he wants kept secret are not any worse
Edited on Sun May-31-09 09:06 AM by No Elephants
worse than the videos and hundreds of photos that have been floating around for years. But he's fighting all the way to the SCOTUS to keep secret the 44 photos of the "same old same old" activities we've already seen.

While he fights, he's ordered everyone else in the Executive Branch to de-classify stuff unless it really, really needs to be kept secret.

Somewhere in there, something is not ringing true.

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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 11:22 PM
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6. Yeah, I wondered about that, too.
But I recall that shortly after the Obama Administration took this position, the photos were leaked anyway. I suspect that they wish to hold some line on releasing classified documents, but not necessarily these documents.

But that's just a guess.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 11:13 PM
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5. R2i interrogations
Resistence to interrogation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R2I

and they TEACH these sexual abuse techniques to 'break', or 'psychic drive' as Dr Ewan Cameron's methods were called in the KUBARK manuals

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2004/may/08/iraq.iraq

What's amazing is how the media is being used to cover this all up...and most are participating.
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