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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 02:47 PM
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US judge refuses to dismiss 'Day of Prayer' suit
Source: San Diego Union Tribune (AP)

MADISON, Wis. — A federal judge has refused to dismiss a lawsuit that claims the National Day of Prayer is unconstitutional.

U.S. District Judge Barbara Crabb ruled this week the case brought by the Madison-based Freedom From Religion Foundation can move forward with discovery.


Read more: http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/may/29/us-prayer-day-lawsuit-052909/?dsq=10269605#comment-10269605
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chaplainM Donating Member (744 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 02:49 PM
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1. How will we know when to pray if the government doesn't tell us?!
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 02:51 PM
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2. recommend
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 02:55 PM
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3. Could we please have a National Day of Thinking?
That'd be good, for jebus' sake.
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 02:58 PM
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4. Heh! Someone in the comments section asked that very question.


"Hubcap 22 minutes ago
How about a National Day of Thinking? It could be during Atheist History Month."
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 03:01 PM
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6. Crap! I'm always too late! ;>}
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 03:38 PM
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12. Shazam
And a K&R
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 03:11 PM
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9. It might be unconstitutional.
It's presumptuos to assume that everybody has a brain with which to think. :toast:
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 03:25 PM
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10. Churches would be scared if more people started to think on their own.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 03:27 PM
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11. The very idea, of course. They pray for me; I think for them.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 03:42 PM
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13. Yes... They are not really praying for others. It is more for them.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 04:52 PM
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16. Brilliant!
Although 31% of Americans wouldn't have anything to do that day.
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 05:13 PM
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20. How about a National Day of Masturbation
That would be more useful and more universal.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 05:22 PM
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23. THAT's why I loved Clinton's Surgeon General -- Jocelyn Elders . . .
think I got that name right?

Don't know who Obama has appointed but I bet not near as terrific as Jocelyn!

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onager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 05:43 PM
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25. Just for you...
Edited on Fri May-29-09 05:45 PM by onager
Firing the Surgeon General
Words and Music by Roy Zimmerman
© 1995 Watunes (BMI)
(From "Folk Heroes" )

(Chorus):
You can't come in
I hear you knockin' but you can't come in
I hear you knockin' but you can't come in
'Cause I'm firing the Surgeon General

W-e-l-l, I used to flog the dolphin
Used to choke the chicken
Used to spank the monkey
Used to fool with the tool
I used to whip the bishop
Used to wax the weasel
But now I learned one they never taught in school,
I'm firing the Surgeon General.

(Chorus)

I used to whack the Bobbitt
Used to knead the noodle
Used to charm the cobra
Used to ponder pointillism
I used to free the willy
Used to Pat the Robertson
But now I got me a new euphemism
I'm firing the Surgeon General.

(Chorus)

I used to think I'd need analysis
Get phalluses full of calluses
Go blind, lose my mind
Be romantically disinclined

I used to think I'd never be mollified
Or qualified at all if I'd
Go to work as a clerk
Try to be anything but a jerk

But now I wanna dance and shout
I'm jumpin' like a trouser trout
'Cause I found a way to bat it
And make a living at it

Yeah, I got into politics, and I'm never comin'
Never comin'
I'm never comin' out!

You can't come in
I hear you knockin' but you can't come in
I check the lock 'n' say you can't come in
'Cause I'm firing the Surgeon General
Firing the Surgeon General
Firing the Surgeon General
Firing the Surgeon General
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 06:09 PM
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29. Great stuff -- I'm traveling in the wrong music circles -- !!!
:)
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 06:01 PM
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27. I loved her!
a quote:

in response to Newt Gingrich's blasting of her:

"Well, I suppose Newt Gingrich could be part of the 2% that doesn't masturbate."

Another great quote:

"(America) has got to get over this love affair with the fetus!"

She needs her own talk show!
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 06:08 PM
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28. Love the quotes -- hadn't heard them-!! She was fun . . .!!
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24601 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 10:01 PM
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37. It's already everyday anyway - just not declared n/t
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 10:33 PM
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38. Well, what do ya think that hymn "Oh Come All Ye Faithful" was all about! ??
.
.
.

Mass Orgasm!

:silly:

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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 03:00 PM
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5. OK then..
Can we have a National Day of Rest from
National Days of Various Nonsense.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 03:09 PM
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8. Exception for National Pickle Week...
I love National Pickle Week. :bounce:

--imm
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GillesDeleuze Donating Member (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 03:08 PM
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7. Woohoo.
crabb said its still a tough case for FFRF, but at least the government fuck'd up and filed standing dismissal before summary judgment.

FFRF still has to prove standing at summary judgment.
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9119495 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 04:47 PM
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14. And now we have the republicans first question for Sotomayor...
"What is you opinion on the constitutionality of a National Day of Prayer."

Cue outrage at whatever answer is given.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 04:51 PM
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15. Well Amen to that. Praise be to Judge Crabb.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 04:52 PM
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17. I pray that they get rid of the National Day of Prayer! nt
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 04:55 PM
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18. National Brotherhood Week..
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 05:11 PM
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19. thanks for the good news. n/t
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 05:20 PM
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21. Of course it's UnConstitutional . . . and except for how aggressive the religious right ....
has become of the last decades, it could have been ignored.

We're now supporting "faith-based" religious orgnaizations with our tax dollars!

But we can't afford Single Payer Health Care for our citizens!

$13 Billion a year for Israel for weapons, but . . . """"""""

$12 TRILLION to bail out corrupt capitalism . . . but """""""


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8 track mind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 05:20 PM
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22. sweeeeeeeeet!!!!
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 05:38 PM
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24. Dear God, please give our leaders the wisdom
to see that a "National Day of Prayer" is indeed unconstitutional.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 05:52 PM
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26. YOU GO, GIRL. . . eh, Your Honor. Judge. . . . Whatever.
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Hansel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 06:09 PM
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30. Chick Lady? nt
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 07:13 PM
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33. Another beckism? That's about his speed.
plus, it has the advantage of using really really tiny words.
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Hansel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 07:20 PM
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34. LOL. He is a strange duck. nt
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 06:31 PM
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31. K&R
:kick:
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Torn_Scorned_Ignored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 06:37 PM
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32. I'm glad the court is going to hear this
I too believe the National Day of Prayer is unconstitutional.

Good for FFRF for filing the lawsuit.

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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 07:21 PM
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35. Damn libruls legislating from the bench.
She must be a socialist.
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onager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 09:44 PM
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36. Yep. Like that durn liberal Dem judge who ruled agin' the Pledge.
Edited on Fri May-29-09 09:45 PM by onager
In the Michael Newdow suit to remove "under God."

That was Judge Alfred Goodwin, a Reagan appointee to the Federal bench and lifelong conservative Republican.

We sure are growing a funny crop of liberal judges these days.

Judge Goodwin is also a WWII veteran of the war in Europe. In one interview, he recalled the belt buckles he saw on Hitler's soldiers, which were inscribed "Gott Mit Uns"--"God Is With Us." Right under the swastika.

The judge also noted that while he has received much condemnation (including death threats) for his decision in the Newdow case, no one has successfully attacked his logic.
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