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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 03:54 PM
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Israeli document: Venezuela sends uranium to Iran
Source: Associated Press

Israeli document: Venezuela sends uranium to Iran

By MARK LAVIE – 1 hour ago

JERUSALEM (AP) — Venezuela and Bolivia are supplying Iran with uranium for its nuclear program, according to a secret Israeli government report obtained Monday by The Associated Press.

The two South American countries are known to have close ties with Iran, but this is the first allegation that they are involved in the development of Iran's nuclear program, considered a strategic threat by Israel.

"There are reports that Venezuela supplies Iran with uranium for its nuclear program," the Foreign Ministry document states, referring to previous Israeli intelligence conclusions. It added, "Bolivia also supplies uranium to Iran."

The report concludes that Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez is trying to undermine the United States by supporting Iran.



Read more: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gWi9hJXmHRyYjNwd_IH3RL3abpkwD98DEPH80



Who knew Venezuela and Bolivia were friends with Iran, let alone supplying Iran with uranium?
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 03:55 PM
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1. Yeah, Israel has just as much credibility as the US: none
zip. zilch. nada.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 11:49 PM
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59. But Iran and Venezuela with a limit on free press and free speech
have credibility. You may want to get some facts but, I suppose, it would interfere with the, oh, so convenient pre-determined opinion. Why bother to be on DU?
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 05:27 AM
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61. Don't make a statement and then attribute it to me...
I said no such thing. You are IMPLYING that I am saying that, which is not true.

I simply said that Israel and the US have no credibility on the issue, and that is true.
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 03:56 PM
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2. This "secret Israeli government report" is B.S. that somehow leaked
to the press, to use and an excuse to kill a bunch of people in Iran when the butcher Netanyahoo decides to blow the hell out of the place. :puke:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 03:57 PM
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3. How con....VEEEEEN....yent....for the neocons still lurking in the power halls of DC.
.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 04:05 PM
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8. let`s not forget our neoliberal`s hands in this israeli problem.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 04:56 PM
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20. imo, they are NOT liberals....they're coopted Dems who wear lefty masks every now and then.
"Hey Dems, love me I'm pro-choice, now, let's invade Iran."
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 03:57 PM
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4. then we MUST bomb Iran and Chavez
:sarcasm:

thanks for the heads up intel Netanyahu
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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 03:59 PM
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5. But what did Nancy Pelosi know about this report?
Surely we must investigate what Pelosi knew and when she knew it! And what about any possible ties between Venezuela and ACORN? There must be hearings, so we can get to the root of how the Democrat Socialist Party is a threat to world peace.

:sarcasm:
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 03:59 PM
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6. yellowcake?
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 06:01 PM
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32. Yellow cake! Yellow cake! Baby incubators! WMD! WMD! nt
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 04:02 PM
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7. remember brewster-jennings?
i wonder if that network has ever been rebuilt?

sounds like a fabricated story from the bomb iran factions in israel and ap .
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Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 04:12 PM
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9. What the hell. It's a capitalist world, you sell to the highest bidder. n/t
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 08:17 AM
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46. BushInc doesn't want competition for THEIR drugs, arms, and nukesdealing territory.
Hell....they cornered that market over four decades ago and they ain't gonna give it up.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 04:16 PM
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10. Interesting. Venezuela and Russia just signed a nuclear cooperation deal...
Venezuela, Russia sign accord on nuclear cooperation
A cooperation agreement for the use of nuclear energy for peaceful purposes between the governments of Venezuela and Russia was passed by the National Assembly this week and published in the Official Gazette. The Gazette No. 368,817 published on May 4th, offers details of the agreement, which provides for the exploration and development of uranium and thorium (radioactive minerals) deposits and their use for "peaceful purposes." The agreement also includes the development of nuclear infrastructure, the safety of nuclear facilities and radioactive sources, industrial production of components and materials to be used in nuclear reactors, among others. (El Universal, Caracas, May 8, 2009)

Venezuela and Russia have signed an agreement on the cooperation in the field of the peaceful use of nuclear power. Among others, the agreement covers the development of uranium and thorium deposits. (RIA Novosti Nov. 27, 2008)

http://www.wise-uranium.org/upsam.html#VE

What can this all mean?
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 04:17 PM
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11. Yeah, right.
:eyes:
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 04:20 PM
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12. No doubt the documents were obtained from Darth.
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twitomy Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 04:42 PM
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13. Oh what the hell...
We let North Korea get the bomb, why not Iran? I mean REALLY, who are WE to pass judgement on
another countries nuclear ambitions? After all, WE got the bomb, and we even used it..

(This is sarcasem lest anyone agree with it)
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 04:44 PM
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14. Wait, Venezuela has access to uranium? nt
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 12:26 PM
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49. That's a question that needs to be addressed in this discussion. n/t
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 04:45 PM
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15. They bought it on Ebay - their proof is a 'congratulations you've won' email

None of these folks have credibility any longer. Fool me once...
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 04:46 PM
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16. 2006: Iranian pact with Venezuela stokes fears of uranium sales
BUENOS AIRES -- A recent deal between Iran and Venezuela provides for the exploitation of Venezuela's strategic minerals, prompting opposition figures to warn that President Hugo Chavez's government could be planning to provide Tehran with uranium for its nuclear program.

The deal was part of a package of agreements, most of which were announced during a visit last month to Caracas and Cuba by Iranian parliament Speaker Gholam Ali Haddad-Adel. The two countries also established a joint $200 million development fund and signed bilateral deals to build homes and factories, and exploit petroleum.

~snip

Mr. Chavez last week ridiculed such speculation as being part of an "imperialist plan" propagated by international news media.

"Now they say I am sending uranium to make atomic bombs from here, from the Venezuelan Amazon to send directly to the Persian Gulf," Mr. Chavez said during a meeting at a military club on Tuesday. "This shows they have no limit in their capacity to invent lies."

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2006/mar/13/20060313-121547-4071r/

So Chavez denied this back in 2006. Does Israel have any proof that uranium has been delivered?
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IDFbunny Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 04:56 PM
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19. Why wouldn't Chavez sell uranium?
And if he is selling uranium to Iran, why should he admit it?

I'm inclined to believe he has been selling as he really has no reason not to.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 05:07 PM
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24. Lock up your wimin!
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 08:44 PM
Response to Reply #19
39. Interesting username you've got there
You sure you've got no problems with Iran getting Uranium?
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 11:00 PM
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43. Because he hasn't got any.
The people with plenty to spare, though, are the mine owners. The global uranium market's been glutted by decommissioned nuclear warheads from the CCCP and USA. No matter to Cheney and Bush. They make money off both ends, mining and warmongering.
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IDFbunny Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 12:39 PM
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50. I'll buy that.
But is isn't scruples that would hold him back from selling.
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Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 05:47 PM
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31. Heard there's a place in Italy to get documentation. n/t
Take your teen age daughter, get anything you want from Berlusconi.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 08:41 PM
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38. hahaha
Yes, Italy seems to be your one-stop place for Uranium documents.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 04:50 PM
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17. Wonder if this *revelation* is timed to sabotage any ideas to safeguard the world's uranium supplies
.... as reported in the Asia Times in April:


Obama considering uranium fuel bank under internat'l control in Kazakhstan to solve Iranian impasse, April 10, 2009


It seems that the neocons are up to their old yellowcake psyops tricks again.




According to a secret Israeli government report, Venezuela and Bolivia are 'supplying Iran with uranium.' May 25, 2009


.....

The report concludes that Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez is trying to undermine the United States by supporting Iran.

Venezuela and Bolivia are close allies, and both regimes have a history of opposing U.S. foreign policy and Israeli actions. Venezuela expelled the Israeli ambassador during Israel's offensive in Gaza this year, and Israel retaliated by expelling the Venezuelan envoy. Bolivia cut ties with Israel over the offensive.

.....




How convenient that these allegations are against two Latin American countries that have rejected the Bush/neocon foreign policy of violent domination.


The neocons are still waging war.




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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 05:22 PM
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28. It so happens that Venezuela and Bolivia are in the midst of major land reform
Coincidence?
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 04:50 PM
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18. Why not throw Cuba and Castro in there while there at it? Israel is full of shit.
Neocons still at it.

Evo Morales and Hugo Chavez been sticking fingers in the eyes of the right wing assholes in the US MIC and now they happen to show up as supplying Iran with uranium...

Yeah, anyone want to buy this snake oil again?
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 05:01 PM
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21. Maybe Colin Powell can go to the UN and make the case
:eyes:
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 05:02 PM
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22. Israel doesn't leak documents, and the AP is known to distort things
BTW, Iran has the legal right under the Non-Proliferation Treaty (which Israel has refused to sign) to process uranium for nuclear fuel.

There is nothing here!
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 05:04 PM
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23. Is that illegal, or something?
Iran is an NPT signatory, Israel is not.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 05:08 PM
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25. I hear Hugo is also selling bootleg copies of The Honeymooners on eBay!
:scared:
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 05:11 PM
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26. ha! Actually, I guess that WOULD be illegal, unlike selling uranium to an NPT signatory.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 05:13 PM
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27. No, it is not illegal (asuming it is true)
Australia refused to sell uranium to India until that country signed the Non-Proliferation Treaty.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 05:26 PM
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29. Just when ya truly think ya can't laugh any harder at the stupidity of rightwingnuts...
They prove you wrong.

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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 05:43 PM
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30. Yigal Palmor refused to comment about...........
this fairy tale.
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 06:15 PM
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33. This is about -----Libertad, democracia y el combate a la pobreza----
Edited on Mon May-25-09 06:16 PM by AlphaCentauri
When was the last time neo-liberals (aka Libertarians or republicans) ended poverty in latinoamerica? never.

Now, when was the last international communist summit in the US? :eyes:
well, then ask your self what are Miami based right wing extremist doing in Venezuela?


If you don't know how to BS in spanish here is your first lesson:


Hijo de Vargas Llosa es detenido en Caracas

Reiteró que es importante que en Venezuela se maneje la democracia . "Vine como parte del elenco de personajes del extranjero, es un evento que tiene mucha importancia para todos los extremos de la libertad, los 25 años de Cedice".

...

El hijo del conocido escritor vendría a Venezuela con motivo del 25 aniversario de Cedice. "Conversará sobre su próximo libro y debatirá los temas de la libertad, democracia y el combate a la pobreza"

http://www.laprensahn.com/index.php/Sintesis/Lo-ultimo/Ediciones/2009/05/25/Noticias/Hijo-de-Vargas-Llosa-es-detenido-en-Caracas







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debunkthelies Donating Member (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 06:20 PM
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34. BALDERDASH
If the Israelis say it it's probably a lie.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 06:27 PM
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35. I didn't even know Venezuela and Boliva had uranium. WOW! Why do they not
develop their own nuclear facilities and bombs then? Israel is totally out to attack Iran. Anyway we and Israel do NOT (or at least should not) control the world. Since both Israel and the USA have nuclear bombs, we need to shut up. We are among the most dangerous two nations on Earth; I am confident most of the world wishes we did not have them.
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 07:26 PM
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36. I would like to see some proof
I don't believe they did....
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Andrushka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 08:39 PM
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37. "Israeli document" tells me all I need to know.
This has about as much credence as the ol' "Hezbollah is training in Venezuela!" schtick that appeared a few years back now.

Utter bullshit.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 09:00 PM
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40. And the beat goes on....
La dee da dee dah
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 09:38 PM
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41. puhleeze, 20 years ago this transnational national-security garbage
said ETA and Abu Nidal were setting up shop in Nicaragua (that's why we had to kill Qaddafi's adopted baby)
Salvadoran death squads, Israeli army psychopaths, mercs for Apartheid, and obscene Argentinean and Chilean soldiers helped and trained the Contras. Sharon even visited Honduras in 1982, helping his bestest buddy, Gustavo Alvarez, introduce the disappearance to Honduran politics. This also set up Ollie North's smuggling networks. And Gary Webb was "wrong"--it was the NSC doing most of the smuggling, mostly to blame it on Managua.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 10:46 PM
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42. Bullshit!
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 12:50 AM
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44. I call bullshit, Iran has some of the richest uranium deposits in the world.
WTF.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 01:11 AM
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45. Israel's "Niger Yellowcake Document". They are Bushies, which means the are probably lying.
Propaganda setup. 85-90% certain, and that may be optimistic to think there is even a 10-15% chance this has even a grain of truth to it

How embarassed and ashamed I am of what my people have become under Bushevism.
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 10:43 AM
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47. Russia is supplying Iran under IAEA supervision
and from the article:

"Venezuela is not currently mining its own untapped uranium reserves, according to an analysis published in December by the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace."

This report is reminiscent of "yellowcake from Africa"
Hey Charlie Brown, Lucy will hold the football and you kick.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 10:45 AM
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48. ...
:rofl:
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 12:57 PM
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51. Oh, gosh. Those Secret Israeli Government Reports -
I have so changed my mind about the Revolution now. I'm going to fall into line now. Those SIGRs are such a dependable fucking source, I don't know what I was thinking.

I'm a good citizen now. Yahooooooooo! Point me towards the nearest Starbucks!
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 12:57 PM
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52. I expect Mossad is better at forging papers than whoever did the yellowcake docs.
I'm wondering how valid this intel is?

-Hoot
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 03:57 PM
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54. yeah...where IS Michael LeDeen these days, anyway?
.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 03:46 PM
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53. That pesky Venezuela: Israel claims Iran set up Hizbullah cells in Venezuela
Israel claims Iran set up Hizbullah cells in Venezuela
Wednesday, May 27, 2009

OCCUPIED JERUSALEM: The Israeli foreign ministry accused Iran of establishing Hizbullah cells in northern Venezuela and the country's Margarita Island as the military said it was concerned that the Lebanese group would try to smuggle advanced anti-aircraft missiles into Lebanon.

According to a document leaked to the Associated Press, the ministry issued the accusation based on information from Israeli and foreign diplomatic, military and security sources.

The document also accused Venezuela and Bolivia of providing Iran with uranium in order to upgrade its nuclear program. The two South American countries are known to have close ties with Iran, but this is the first allegation that they are involved in the development of Iran's nuclear program, considered a strategic threat by Israel.

"There are reports that Venezuela supplies Iran with uranium for its nuclear program," the Foreign Ministry document states, referring to previous Israeli intelligence conclusions. It added, "Bolivia also supplies uranium to Iran." The report concludes that Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez is trying to undermine the United States by supporting Iran.

More:
http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=1&categ_id=2&article_id=102357

This is one brand new spinneroo, isn't it? Whooo!
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ronnie624 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 11:33 PM
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58. Astonishing.
Unfortunately, if this garbage is repeated a sufficient number of times on CNN and FOX NEWS, it will quickly become a "well known fact".

For some reason, I find it truly amazing that the two countries most likely to attack others, can convince millions of people throughout the world, that they are the ones who are threatened, despite the readily available facts of the matter.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 12:17 PM
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62. They need to invent excuses to launch monstrous aggression on others
when we all know, and have known as you point out, other countries haven't been close to daring to attack either the most heavily destructive country on earth, or its ward in the Mideast. After all, what would any country gain other than total devastation.

It's hard to believe there are people among us stupid enough to EVER take any of this crap seriously.
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 09:03 PM
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55. The only problem is that there don't seem to be any mines?
Show me the satellite photographs on Google earth.

Possibly, there is some small mine in Bolivia being run by a Canadian uranium mining company...
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 09:20 PM
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56. the US used to send Iraq chemical weapons
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eauclaireliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 10:20 PM
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57. RE:Israeli document: Venezuela sends uranium to Iran
JERUSALEM (AP) — Venezuela and Bolivia are supplying Iran with uranium for its nuclear program, according to a secret Israeli government report obtained Monday by The Associated Press.

More Zionist b.s.
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New Dawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 12:12 AM
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60. Maximum hypocrisy: Israel already has nuclear weapons.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 12:32 PM
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63. The war mongering Israeli government under Netanyahu shouldn't be trusted-imho
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 02:08 PM
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64. for a piss-ant country, Israel is begging to be smacked down hard
I feel bad for its citizens... Israel cannot exist by going down this path. America just isn't as strong as it used to be... eventually, you'll have no one to fight your fights or fund you to defend yourselves. Better get a lid on the crazies there.
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kpominville Donating Member (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 02:13 PM
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65. Didn't Israel also claim an Iraq/Al Queda link?
They tied their credibility to the Bush administration.

Now they have none.
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bushmeister0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 02:53 PM
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66. Israel is only mad that Hugo isn't buying their weapons along with all the other dictators
and killers around the world.

Actually, not their weapons, our weapons that they reverse-engineered to get around the Arms Export ban.
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