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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 04:02 PM
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Salazar: Eastern wind could replace coal for power
Source: AP

By WAYNE PARRY, Associated Press Writer – 4 mins ago

ATLANTIC CITY, N.J. – Windmills off the East Coast could generate enough electricity to replace most, if not all, the coal-fired power plants in the United States, Interior Secretary Ken Salazar said Monday.

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The secretary spoke at a public hearing in Atlantic City on how the nation's offshore areas can be tapped to meet America's energy needs.

"The idea that wind energy has the potential to replace most of our coal-burning power today is a very real possibility," he said. "It is not technology that is pie-in-the sky; it is here and now."

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Salazar said ocean winds along the East Coast can generate 1 million megawatts of power, roughly the equivalent of 3,000 medium-sized coal-fired power plants, or nearly five times the number of coal plants now operating in the United States, according to the Energy Department.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090406/ap_on_re_us/offshore_windmills



In case you missed it, here's the very inspiring speech he made at Powershift a month ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDoU9-fpffQ
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 04:04 PM
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1. How close to shore do they need to be
and how much of an eyesore?

I do love my Jersey shore...

And is there an impact on shipping lanes? NJ/NY takes in a huge amount of shipping.

Otherwise, no more coal is a very good thing!
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TommyO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 04:28 PM
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5. I would prefer windmills to oil rigs
Eyesore? Like the exhaust plumes rising from coal-fired plants? Or something that looks like it's about a quarter-inch tall on the horizon? I'll tell you which I would prefer.
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 04:54 PM
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8. These things look quite cool...














http://www.magenn.com">Magenn Power's MARS

-- ---- --

And regarding underwater power generation...



http://www.biopowersystems.com/technologies.php">BioPower Systems

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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 04:41 PM
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7. They're grand and beautiful.
I love the way windmills look. They're exceptionally beautiful when compared with any other tall man-made utility object.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 07:15 PM
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15. Thanks - I really didn't know! nt
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 06:21 PM
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12. How could windmills possibly be an eyesore?
They are beautiful.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 06:25 PM
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13. I find one or two or even a few visually interesting. I find the huge
windmill farms horrifyingly ugly.
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greenman3610 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 06:40 PM
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14. the technology exists to site them far enough away
that they will not be visible, yet still close enough to make for
relatively close access to electric grids.
we can thank the oil industry for developing the technology
to anchor these things in deep water.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 07:21 PM
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16. Well that's cool
Thanks - I really didn't know.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 07:49 AM
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18. The towers will be miles offshore and "disappear over the horizon"
And you won't miss the smog and particulates from the existing power generation. You do have a good point, though!
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tabbycat31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 04:08 PM
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2. nice
I've read so much aobut the hearing, and I wanted to go but I can't miss class and don't exactly want to drive an hour.

I just don't want any oil rigs off the coastlines of NJ. It's my NIMBY issue.
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 04:13 PM
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3. they can paint them with invisible paint - it'll be fine
(g)
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 04:19 PM
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4. This Was a Big Argument Against Building Railroads in the 19th Century
They were going to turn all the wilderness into an eyesore. Now they're seen as part of the landscape.

If Palm Springs can have a windfarm, I don't know why the beach couldn't. It seems strage, however, that the most efficent place to build them is in seawater rather than on land.
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hay rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 06:14 PM
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11. Great thing about invisible paint
It's so easy to tell where you missed.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 04:37 PM
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6. No point in building them near xisting power inrastructure!
It is pie in the sky to think practical solutions are not there.
The wind blows in Kansas, the sun shines in Albuquerque.
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quidam56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 05:05 PM
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9. Hope this helps save a mountain and stream in Appalachia
We can't stand anymore of the prosperity thanks to Bush/Cheney and THE BIG CLEAN HYBRID GREEN NEW AND IMPROVED COAL INDUSTRY.

http://www.wisecountyissues.com/?p=138 Sean Hannity shut up !
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jtrockville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 05:48 PM
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10. Excellent. Coal is FILTHY.
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Frank Booth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 01:27 AM
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17. If they'll take the place of coal plants, they can place them anywhere for all I care.
Edited on Tue Apr-07-09 01:28 AM by Frank Booth
The next door lot is fine.

Or putting them on a beach I like is also ok. From La Jolla to Leo Carrillo, and up to Pismo, it's all good with me.
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