Chavez to launch new state airline in Venezuela

[Judi Lynn]

Source: Associated Press

The Associated Press March 26, 2009, 12:05AM ET
Chavez to launch new state airline in Venezuela

CARACAS, Venezuela

President Hugo Chavez says his government plans to take over a Caracas-based airline and relaunch it as "social property."

Aeropostal Alas de Venezuela has been in state hands since late last year, when a raid on one of its owners uncovered 880 pounds (400 kilograms) of cocaine.

Chavez did not say Wednesday if he would nationalize the airline now or await the results of a drug trafficking case against Abdala, Alex and Basel Makled -- three brothers who own the carrier.

A conviction may let the government confiscate, rather than pay for, the airline.



Read more: http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D975FU4G0.htm

[RedCloud]

1. Flying that plane, high on cocaine

Meanwhile our presidents tend to allow the CIA et alia to fly in what drugs they need to pay for covert operations.

[WriteDown]

2. Surprise, surprse

"A conviction may let the government confiscate, rather than pay for, the airline."

[David__77]

3. So you oppose US laws that allow confiscating drug dealers' property?

Curious.

[WriteDown]

4. I'm also not so naive that cops can't plant evidence

to make a bust. Also, I've never heard of the police seizing a drug dealers front business and running it.

[Arctic Dave]

14. Usually they confiscate and then sell it for a profit which they

get to keep. They also use for other jobs.

[Judi Lynn]

6. Family's restaurant, other property may be seized after drug arrests

Family's restaurant, other property may be seized after drug arrests
By DON LEHMAN
[email protected]
Published: Monday, March 31, 2008


LAKE GEORGE — Warren County officials plan to look into whether a popular Route 9N restaurant can be seized after its owner was arrested over the weekend in connection with what police said was a massive marijuana growing operation.

State and federal seizure laws allow for the confiscation of real property if it was purchased with proceeds from drug activity, or in some cases if it can be shown that it was supported by drug-related income.

Police on Saturday night arrested Bruce E. Nelson, longtime chef/owner of Lone Bull Pancake & Steak House, as well as his son and his son’s half-brother. Warren County sheriff’s officers seized $41,000 in cash from a Flat Rock Road, Lake George home, along with two vehicles and a trailer, officials said.

In addition to the restaurant, police believe rental cabins in Lake George and a home owned by Nelson in Johnsburg where police said marijuana was being grown could also be targeted for seizure, officials said.

http://www.poststar.com/articles/2008/03/31/news/latest/doc47f13f9809b51343148016.txt

[WriteDown]

8. Plan to look into?

And also I doubt that they will then be run by Warren County afterwards.

[Judi Lynn]

9. Washington State Law:

69.50.504 << 69.50.505 >> 69.50.506

RCW 69.50.505
Seizure and forfeiture.


(1) The following are subject to seizure and forfeiture and no property right exists in them:

(a) All controlled substances which have been manufactured, distributed, dispensed, acquired, or possessed in violation of this chapter or chapter 69.41 or 69.52 RCW, and all hazardous chemicals, as defined in RCW 64.44.010, used or intended to be used in the manufacture of controlled substances;

(b) All raw materials, products, and equipment of any kind which are used, or intended for use, in manufacturing, compounding, processing, delivering, importing, or exporting any controlled substance in violation of this chapter or chapter 69.41 or 69.52 RCW;

(c) All property which is used, or intended for use, as a container for property described in (a) or (b) of this subsection;

(d) All conveyances, including aircraft, vehicles, or vessels, which are used, or intended for use, in any manner to facilitate the sale, delivery, or receipt of property described in (a) or (b) of this subsection, except that:

(i) No conveyance used by any person as a common carrier in the transaction of business as a common carrier is subject to forfeiture under this section unless it appears that the owner or other person in charge of the conveyance is a consenting party or privy to a violation of this chapter or chapter 69.41 or 69.52 RCW;

(ii) No conveyance is subject to forfeiture under this section by reason of any act or omission established by the owner thereof to have been committed or omitted without the owner's knowledge or consent;

(iii) No conveyance is subject to forfeiture under this section if used in the receipt of only an amount of marijuana for which possession constitutes a misdemeanor under RCW 69.50.4014;

(iv) A forfeiture of a conveyance encumbered by a bona fide security interest is subject to the interest of the secured party if the secured party neither had knowledge of nor consented to the act or omission; and

(v) When the owner of a conveyance has been arrested under this chapter or chapter 69.41 or 69.52 RCW the conveyance in which the person is arrested may not be subject to forfeiture unless it is seized or process is issued for its seizure within ten days of the owner's arrest;

More:
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=69.50.505

[WriteDown]

10. Once again...

What happens once they are seized? If Warren County seizes this restaurant or diner then is it renamed The Warren County Diner and the county keeps the profits from every hamburger and french fry sold. And does the the wait staff become state employees?

[Judi Lynn]

11. Your point is what? n/t

[WriteDown]

12. Apples and oranges. nt

[Judi Lynn]

13. What would lead you to believe the staff would become the property of the state? n/t

[ConcernedCanuk]

15. We have laws up here similar to that regarding fishing and hunting.

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If you are caught fishing or hunting without proper documentation, using illegal methods, etc.,

Not only can the Ministry of Natural Resources confiscate your catch/kill,

They can seize everything you used to accomplish the deed,

be it fishing equipment, guns, camper, vehicles - whatever -

even the freezer you stored the illegal catch/kill in . .

yeah

20 bucks worth of fish/game caught/harvested/stored illegally can cost you tens of thousands of dollars up here

I know dozens of people up here that still skirt the laws,

but ya only gotta get caught ONCE

and those "freebies" will bite you in the ass

big time . . .

some people are SOOOOOO stooopid!

[davidinalameda]

23. is the county planning on running the restaurant?

[Duke Newcombe]

5. In Soviet Venezuela, flight takes YOU!!! n/t

[Judi Lynn]

7. How does that work? Flight takes you? Soviet Venezuela? n/t

[Doctor Cynic]

16. Will it be renamed HugoFlot and contain Soviet-era Antonovs?

[Dreamer Tatum]

17. Nice work nt

[Dreamer Tatum]

18. Judi, it's not that Chavez can confiscate SOMETHING...

...it's that he's confiscating EVERYTHING.

What's your cut, by the way?

[Judi Lynn]

24. What is it you're attempting to say? Why not take the time to be coherent? n/t

[Dreamer Tatum]

19. Judi, it's not that Chavez can confiscate SOMETHING...

...it's that he's confiscating EVERYTHING.

What's your cut, by the way?

[bitchkitty]

20. Ridiculous. You just pulled that

comment right out of your southern end, didn't you?

He is not confiscating EVERYTHING. That's either a blatant lie or you heard it from someone who is extremely stupid.

[Dreamer Tatum]

21. You're right. I still have my fillings. nt

[bitchkitty]

22. Oh, I see. Chavez took everything you had, hmm?

Did he eat your children too?