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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 03:28 PM
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NY Times published fake letter from Paris mayor
Source: Associated Press

NY Times published fake letter from Paris mayor
December 22, 2008

NEW YORK—The New York Times admitted Monday it published a fake letter purportedly from the mayor of Paris criticizing Caroline Kennedy's bid for a U.S. Senate seat as "appalling" and "not very democratic."

In a note posted Monday on its Web site, the Times said the letter signed by Paris Mayor Bertrand Delanoe was a fake and should not have been published because it violated the paper's standards and procedures for publishing signed letters.

"We have already expressed our regrets to Mr. Delanoe's office and we are now doing the same to you, our readers," the Times said.

News of the hoax was first reported by France-Amerique, which published its story on its Web site Monday.



Read more: http://www.boston.com/news/world/europe/articles/2008/12/22/ny_times_published_fake_letter_from_paris_mayor/
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 03:31 PM
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1. LOL! so, sarah palin and the NYT forget to fact check
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 03:31 PM
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2. Is it now an international sport to impersonate the French?
First the prank phone call to Sarah Palin, and now this. What gives?
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 05:10 PM
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8. Maybe not an international sport...
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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 03:39 PM
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3. You are surprised? Almost all MSM news is fake.
The idea that the peasants might get actual news from our corporate masters would scare our owners to death.
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antimatter98 Donating Member (537 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 04:02 PM
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4. I'm 'shocked' that the Times would print fake news. n/t
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 04:13 PM
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5. How About An Apology To Caroline As Well
And while I love Paris what the heck does it matter what the Mayor of Paris think about an appointment for Senator in a US/my state?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 04:53 PM
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7. No kidding. n/t
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 05:54 PM
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9. NY Times hasn't apologized for Judith Miller's WMD reporting
Why would they change their MO for this latest fiasco?
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 06:32 PM
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12. There You Go
Maybe they should have Kristol write a column about this and then have to correct that too.
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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 10:55 AM
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21. Exactly
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Eugenian Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 04:30 PM
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6. "the Times said the letter signed by Paris Mayor Bertrand Delanoe was a fake"
So which is it, AP? Was it signed by Paris Mayor Bertrand Delanoe or was it a fake?
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 06:19 PM
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10. Perhaps the writer meant "the letter appearing to have been signed by Paris Mayor..."?
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 06:21 PM
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11. This is appalling. One call to the Mayor's office for a confirmation would
have prevented this. I hope the rest of the media flails them for it. I also hope they find the maroon who did send it.
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RedSock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 11:03 AM
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22. i thought they called everyone
Edited on Tue Dec-23-08 11:04 AM by RedSock
the times calls anyone who writes a letter it is thinking of printing.

i've had several letters in the times over the years and my wife has had a slew more (more than a dozen) -- and they ALWAYS called to verify that the name and number given on the letter was accurate -- every single time. and we are two nobodies. (they have also called and then the letter did not appear, for space or whatever reasons.)

i refuse to believe they did not check this out.

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NBachers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 07:41 PM
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13. OK. That's It! From now on, she'll be "Freedom" Hilton to me.
That'll show 'em!
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 08:08 PM
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14. Sulzberger, Jr. 's been in a race to the bottom with Donald Graham of the Post for years now
Every time the Post edges ahead

See, e.g. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dean-baker/washington-post-the-probl_b_152649.html">Washington Post: The Problem is YOU, Not "We" by economist Dean Baker

The Times does them one better.

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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 08:46 PM
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15. All the news that fits they print. n/t
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 08:48 PM
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16. bonjour I loves me zum New York Times ..... kiss kiss
Edited on Mon Dec-22-08 08:49 PM by Botany
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New_England_Patriot Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 08:59 PM
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17. Scratch one more news source...
We're running out of reliable news sourc... what am I saying? We've already run out.

Here's what they said at the Huffington Post about this: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/22/french-mayor-fake-letter_n_152908.html
The Times blamed the mistake on a failure to verify the authenticity of a letter that arrived by e-mail.

"In this case, our staff sent an edited version of the letter to the sender of the e-mail and did not hear back," the paper said. "At that point, we should have contacted Mr. Delanoe's office to verify that he had, in fact, written to us. We did not do that. Without that verification, the letter should never have been printed."

The Times said it was reviewing its procedures to avoid such an incident in the future.


Dumbasses. :eyes: Printing unverified, and more importantly, NON-TRUTHFUL news is just absolutely dishonorable. I mean, look at the subject matter of the email hoax. Not only are they in hot water with Caroline Kennedy, but now they're in hot water with a foreign nation.

A simple oops doesn't cut it. Oh... yeah, they're going to review its procedures... to do what exactly? Check that their sources are VALID? That's supposed to be what they should be doing right now! Enough with 'expressing regret'. They still haven't apologized yet.
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New Dawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:21 AM
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18. NY Times published fake letter from Paris mayor
Source: AP

NEW YORK – The New York Times admitted Monday it published a fake letter purportedly from the mayor of Paris criticizing Caroline Kennedy's Senate bid as "appalling" and "not very democratic."

"What title has Ms. Kennedy to pretend to Hillary Clinton's seat?" the letter in Monday's editions said. "We French can only see a dynastic move of the vanishing Kennedy clan in the very country of the Bill of Rights. It is both surprising and appalling."

In an editor's note posted Monday on its Web site, the Times said the letter signed by Paris Mayor Bertrand Delanoe should not have been published because it violated the paper's standards and procedures.

"We have already expressed our regrets to Mr. Delanoe's office and we are now doing the same to you, our readers," the Times said.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081222/ap_on_re_us/ny_times_hoax
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:21 AM
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19. Should not have been published..... Really?
When I write an LTTE that will be published here in St. Louis, I get a phone call to verify that I wrote the letter and I am who I say I am. Gosh, that must be pretty tough for the elite NY Times to hold itself to such "high" standards.

What a bunch of Maroons.....
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TXDemGal Donating Member (600 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:21 AM
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20. Hmmm
Guest the NYT has had to cut back on its budget for actual EDITORS. :wtf:
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 11:42 AM
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23. Why did the Paris mayor send a fake letter? These headline writers need to learn how to write.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 02:14 PM
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25. Truly! Sarkozy needs to get a hobby, apparently. n/t
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 01:43 PM
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24. The NYT hatchet jobs on Caroline Kennedy and Charlie Rangel are getting sloppy.
nt
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bottomtheweaver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 03:06 AM
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26. What's even more astonishing is that the letter is still up on their website,
accompanied by a brief italicized and unapologetic apology:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/22/opinion/l22kennedy.html

Hey, they're the New York Fucking Times, they can print whatever the hell Bush wants.
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ogneopasno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 08:08 AM
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27. WTF? Are the cuts so deep that a news assistant couldn't have called to check that the letter was
legit? That's routine at some papers.
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bottomtheweaver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 11:45 AM
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28. Maybe they didn't want to wake anyone up?
There's that weird time shift that always makes you wonder if they're sleeping over there, ya know? Plus it's like WAY long distance to call France.
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