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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 11:34 PM
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Obama ups jobs goal to 3 million on bad economic news
Source: CNN

From Ed Henry

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President-elect Barack Obama has decided to increase his goal for creating new jobs after receiving economic forecasts that suggest the economy is in worse shape than had been predicted, two Democratic officials told CNN.

The officials said Obama is increasing his goal from 2.5 million to 3 million jobs over the next two years after receiving projections early this week that suggest the recession will be deeper than expected.

The projections showed that unless significant action is taken, the nation is likely to lose up to 4 million jobs over the next year and that the unemployment rate will probably rise above 9 percent, a transition aide told CNN.

After hearing the projections, Obama and Vice President-elect Joe Biden "argued that we were being too timid and that we needed to develop a plan that would save or create at least 3 million jobs," the aide said.



Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/12/20/obama.jobs/
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chucktaylor Donating Member (201 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 11:44 PM
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1. How do you count the jobs saved? I have always had a problem with that one.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 11:54 PM
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2. Oh heck, throw caution to the winds, make the goal five million new jobs.
For a trillion dollars, you can create five million $20K per year jobs. If I'm not mistaken, that's around the cost of the Iraq war, and of the financial bailout, etc. Count both of them, and we could have afforded 10 million $20K per year jobs, apparently. And we could tax all that income too, and it would help the real estate and retail economies too, and ...
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DallasNE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 12:18 AM
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3. The Problem As I See It
Is that the economists continue to be behind the curve on their projections. Ford recently announced that November car sales were down a whopping 30%, keeping in mind that the compariable period was weak. We haven't heard much talk lately about how Christmas spending is going but let me say that it will be down sharply, again keeping in mind that last December was also in recession. The economy went over a cliff in October and the end is not yet in sight. The longest recession since the end of WW II is 16 months (it has happened twice) and if this recession lasts past March, which it certainly will, it will shatter that record. This recession also makes Bush the first President since Dwight Eisenhower to have presided over more than one recession during his term in office.

I don't know what the official definition of a depression is but this downturn will have people dusting of the dictionary for the exact meaning. That is just how bad things are right now.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 12:24 AM
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4. Extremely good on Obama's and Biden's part. (nt)
Edited on Sun Dec-21-08 12:31 AM by w4rma
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 12:25 AM
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5. … nt
Edited on Sun Dec-21-08 12:30 AM by w4rma
Arg, double posting!
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 05:20 AM
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6. Obama Expands Stimulus Goals
Source: Washington Post

Obama Expands Stimulus Goals
As Economic Outlook Grows More Dire, Early Target for Job Growth Is Bolstered

By Lori Montgomery
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, December 21, 2008; Page A01

President-elect Barack Obama has expanded his goals for a massive federal stimulus package to keep pace with the increasingly grim economic outlook, aiming to create or preserve at least 3 million jobs over the next two years.
The more aggressive target, up from 2.5 million jobs set a month ago, comes after a four-hour meeting last week in which Obama's top economic advisers told him the economy is now expected to lose as many as 3.5 million jobs over the next year. Obama was told that could drive unemployment, currently at 6.7 percent, above 9 percent, a figure not seen since the recession of the early 1980s.

With liberal and conservative economists calling on the government to spend $800 billion to $1.3 trillion to stanch the bleeding, the greater danger to the nation, Obama was told, lies in doing too little rather than too much.
Given that gloomy forecast, Obama last week presented congressional Democrats with a proposal to dedicate $675 billion to $775 billion over the next two years to middle-class tax cuts, aid to strapped state governments and investments in domestic priorities such as infrastructure, health-care technology and education -- a package designed to jolt the economy while deterring further layoffs and putting people back to work.


Congressional aides said they have talked with Obama's team about tacking on initiatives that could drive the overall price tag as high as $850 billion, a figure more in line with economists' recommendations. But with resistance expected from Senate Republicans and some fiscally conservative Democrats, an Obama adviser said the team has settled for now on $775 billion as the highest figure likely to win congressional approval and be ready for Obama's signature soon after he takes office Jan. 20.

....
Summers said Obama's budget team is "scrubbing" various proposals for "basic soundness." The team also is developing ideas to make expenditures transparent to the public, perhaps through regular progress reports or even Internet sites where "people could monitor the fraction of each project that had been spent out," he said.
Obama also plans to mandate that states use the money within a time frame or be forced to return it. And his team is looking into public-private partnerships as a way to make the money stretch even further.
Democratic leaders, meanwhile, have agreed to ban earmarks, which target funds for lawmakers' pet projects.


Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/20/AR2008122001395.html?hpid=topnews
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 05:20 AM
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7. He's definitely stimulated DU


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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 05:20 AM
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8. does`t take much to get this place rock`n
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Tunkamerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 05:20 AM
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9. NC's already at a level not seen since 1983.
This is a real experiment to see if government can actually do something to help. It's been so long since I had any faith at all that I'm not quite sure what it feels like.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 05:20 AM
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10. "Democratic leaders, meanwhile, have agreed..." Democratic? Did I just read DEMOCRATIC?
BOOYEAH!

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Shiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 07:36 AM
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11. You win the thread
:rofl:
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 10:02 PM
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12. Some perspective is called for.
About 2.1 million jobs were added to the economy annually over the previous two decades, including intervals of recession. A lower annual net gain is simply less than the average was prior to the disastrous GWB years.

Another caveat: We could see some very ambiguous reporting if there is not a clear distinction between net gains and jobs preserved.
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Sophree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 12:36 AM
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15. Investing in infrastructure and education
That's what we really need and is what will turn things around. So happy we elected the smartest guys in the room!!!

:kick:
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 10:42 PM
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13. 2.5 million to 3 million jobs over the next two years
Isn't going to help people that need jobs now.
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blue_onyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 11:24 PM
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14. It would be great if they can actually do this but...
I'm not going to get my hopes up. Our unemployment rate is closing in on 10% and it's been almost 8 years of recession....hard to be optimistic.
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