Drudge *Breaking* Kerry Cheated On His Wife

[matcom]

http://www.drudgereport.com

[xchrom]

1. clinton's penis at work again?

[JPace]

32. Even if it's true it won't grow legs....

they used the infidelity thing so hard with
Clinton that the population is now numb to it.

They will have to do a lot better than this,
and yes rOve and Co. is showing their desperation
aren't they? Kerry isn't even the nominee yet!

[Atlant]

94. It's got about a hundred replies here in about 30 minutes. That's legs.

(NT)

[Suspicious]

106. When my boss

(a democrat-voting, *-despising attorney) can be overheard talking on the phone about it, and proceeds to e-mail the story to me, I tend to think it might have legs, as well.

[JPace]

151. I still think the country is sophisticated enough

to realize there is no such thing as perfection
in a Presidential candidate. They overlooked
AWOL's drinking/drug problem, Reagan's divorces,
even much of Clinton's infidelities before he
took office. It is the lying about things that
will take down a President or a candidate.

If Kerry does not lie.....he will survive easily.

[tinrobot]

155. Quite honestly....

I long for the time when our nation's biggest problem was a blow job.

I think it's much better to have a president who actually enjoys sex. Makes them much more relaxed. Do you really think Bush enjoys sex? Do you think anyone in his administration likes it? Ashcroft? Condi? Cheney? Ewwwww...

[phillybri]

2. Oh boy...here we go....

:puke:

[Loonman]

3. ....and nobody cares

Except for dumb freepers, Crap Sludge(Matt Drudge) and the Kerrys.

[virtualobserver]

18. the media will care

if they love janet and michael jackson and "the scream", they will love this.

If this is real or BS, it is still better for it to come out now, rather than later.

I'm sure that this is the tip of the iceberg as far as the Bush campaign is concerned. If Kerry handles this well, it will prove that he can take Bush on.

[K8-EEE]

63. Oh, But Hands Off On Schwatzeneggar's Infidelities?

Hypocritical hypocrites....as well as lying liars of course.

[virtualobserver]

77. unfortunately, Schwarzenegger was running in California.

He wouldn't have survived anywhere else.

[shanti]

128. i beg to differ

you're underestimating the gropenator's global popularity, which is huge.

[IndianaGreen]

112. I agree with you, it is better this comes out now.

If it is BS, we have plenty of time to shoot it down.

If it is true, we have plenty of time to find another front runner that is more electable.

[formernaderite]

132. Considering how the press destroyed Dean....

....I was surprised Dean wasn't behind the story. Since it seeems to have been Clark since he dropped out, this will have huge legs. I'm still so angry at the press, that I hope this reignites voters to look at Dean. Kerry obviously thinks he's above the fray, and an untouchable. After the Osama ad, I can only say what goes around....

[progressivebydesign]

148. These stories have been around on GD2004 for a while.

I can't remember the source.. Someone was talking about it in relation to Hannity's big "bombshell" he had on Kerry (using that to promote his upcoming book). Perhaps the article in National Enquirer sparked all this. No other candidate needed to supply this to the media... the story was out there already. Now.. we're seeing the Rove machine, however.

[graelent]

29. I Care

I will not see another Democratic President lame ducked by infidelity like Clinton was his second term.

It can not happen

[lancdem]

51. Better to have it come out now

Someone elese could still get the nomination.

[graelent]

66. I agree

If this is true, Kerry needs to drop out now for the good of the Party

[Romel]

I agree as well

We don't want this to be the focus of any new administration. And with the media, this will be. If this is true, there are many in our party who will feel as though we are entering in to the second post Monica term of Clinton again. It's still early enough to save this ship. For those of you who haven't voted in a primary yet, VOTE DEAN!!!

[slinkerwink]

4. here's a list of which each candidate said about Kerry

In an off-the-record conversation with a dozen reporters earlier this week, General Wesley Clark plainly stated: 'Kerry will implode over an intern issue'...

Kerry commotion is why Howard Dean has turned increasingly aggressive against Kerry in recent days, and is the key reason why Dean reversed his decision not to drop out of the race after Wisconsin, top campaign sources tell the DRUDGE REPORT....

A serious investigation of the woman and the nature of her relationship with Sen. John Kerry has been underway at TIME magazine, ABC NEWS, the WASHINGTON POST and the ASSOCIATED PRESS, where the woman in question once worked...

[bluestateguy]

5. God Dammit!!

No, we are not doing this again. NO, NO, NO!!!! We are not doing this AGAIN!!!!!

Why is it that every time a candidate surges some bullshit story surfaces in some quasi-tabloid newspaper?

[Robb]

12. Great pic of Kerry and Ray, BTW

I'm a fan of both, FWIW. :thumbsup:

[Atlant]

16. Honestly: What did you expect?

(I mean this in 100% sincerity.)

> Why is it that every time a candidate surges some bullshit
> story surfaces in some quasi-tabloid newspaper?

Honestly: What did you expect?

Did anyone think that Kerry would somehow be immune for the Vast
Reich Wing Conspiracy? Did anyone not expect that with decades in
public life that there would be plenty of stories, both real and
manufactured, to smear him with?

Our current Media *LIVES* to trash our candidates because our candidates
would harm the business prospects for the media.

This is a fact of life. Howard Dean showed us all how we could use
person-to-person communication as an alernative, but even his grass
roots couldn't overcome the Vast Media Sleaze Machine once it really
got rolling.

Now it's Kerry's turn. And it ain't gonna be pretty.

Atlant

[Lorien]

24. Exactly

How many times have I heard that Kerry won't be "Deaned" because he could control himself and not let out anything like "the Dean scream". But Dean's "scream" was nothing. There is no human being ON EARTH pure enough to escape the reich-wing media machine!

[IndianaGreen]

114. Hey, we still have Dennis Kucinich. Dennis is single!

Dennis lives in a modest home.

Dennis represents our values better than anyone else.

Dennis will bring the troops home, now!

[ewagner]

6. Really quick

I'm surprised they didn't save this rumor for the GE.

Probably bullsh*t but it might get traction in the freeper community.

[shanti]

133. prolly because

they think kerry has the best chance to beat chimpy.

[JPace]

7. Oh? Well he didn't cheat his country like AWOL did!

The right wants to play their usual dirty
games....but this time the left has bigger
and more bags of dung to throw back!

Let the games begin!

[RedEarth]

8. Rove's at it again........

Get ready for an all out assault on Kerry. There was too much heat on bush, so they start slinging mud, or should I say shit.

[Ninga]

11. It's Distractions, Stupid.

[americanstranger]

21. Welp, it will show us one thing...

Kerry's campaign vowed not to be Dukakis II. This may show us all how serious they are about that.

-as

[libview]

22. no friggin way this is Rove's doing,

he would save this for a week before the GE. This will be a dead issue by then.

[Jivenwail]

9. Oh brother, here we go again.

This trash is just too much. More crap to take the focus off of bush and his awol-deserter-never-finished-flying-in-the-guard fiasco. These creeps will stop at absolutely nothing to derail the dems. Sleaze is their trademark. Disgusting.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

10. DU *BREAKING* George Bush cheated on his country

We'll see if any shit materializes with this latest Drudge smear.

[qanda]

13. If Clark knew anything about this

Why did he drop out of the race?

[virtualobserver]

no money? n/t

[ElsewheresDaughter]

14. GOP SEX! SEX! SEX!...oh boy SEX!!!! goody goody gumdrops! let's spend

anotrher $74 MILLION of the taxpayers money!!!!! freepers having wet panties

[candy331]

26. Didn't you know, didn't you know,

it was coming, and more to top that off. Will he or will he not withstand the test of fire? Some of that good old Dean treatment being hurled his way. my my my!

[Tempest]

15. At least he didn't kill her

Like that scumbag Scarborough did the intern he was fucking.

[Sticky]

17. Seriously though....

If this is true, what should John Kerry do with it? It's early in the campaign, can he just admit it and take all the heat now? We're already seeing the bush AWOL story take on new legs due to cover-ups and lies. Can't Kerry show bush how to own up and be accountble for past mistakes?

That said, I hope it's not true.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

23. Quickly admit it and the story will be dead in a fortnight.

They've got ammo? We've got more.

[virtualobserver]

65. the problem is the "recent" aspect......

you can't get away with admitting a recent affair, only an old one.

[jean]

134. yes and also the "recently fled the country" part implies coverup

[bluestateguy]

19. Also

"In an off-the-record conversation with a dozen reporters earlier this week, General Wesley Clark plainly stated: 'Kerry will implode over an intern issue'"...

Does he know what the words "off the record" mean? Any real reporter for a grown-up publication or television station would respect the sacred meaning of the words "off the record".

[Norquist Nemesis]

27. Drudge aint too reliable with "quotes"

He mangles and misrepresents everything and the cons use it as gospel. It's quite possible that Clark actually said "internal" and Drudge dropped the 'al'.

[Snellius]

101. Will Clark even bother to confirm or deny this?

The trouble with this story is that it is fairly easy to debunk or corroborate. Did Clark say this? Who were the reporters that overheard it? Is a rumor spread by a political rival a trustworthy news source?

Drudge is a self-hating schizo who tries to kill his own moral guilt by obsessively exposing what he chastises as the sexual perversity of others. It's a sickness Americans are particularly susceptible to.

[Mistress Quickly]

37. You're never "off the record"

there is no such thing.

Trust me. If you don't want it out there, don't say it. Period.

[Norquist Nemesis]

20. Jesus H Christ. Didn't they learn anything?

This will just unite Dems solidly behind Kerry after what they did to Clinton and have allowed Bush to do since. Is this the best they've got?

[Lorien]

33. It's enough

if they can prove it. Just look at the reaction Janet's breast got! It was as if western civilization was being destroyed by the almighty nipple! We live in a sick Puritan society, with a media that NEVER gives the same attention to Repug indiscretion!

[Norquist Nemesis]

58. Even if they prove it

it won't bring any more supporters to Bush.

[nini]

25. So did Rudy Giuliani.. and look how he is adored by the GOP

bottom line.. who cares? doesn't affect how they govern.

But then I'm not obsessed with sexual crap like the GOP is.

[candy331]

61. Democrats nursed Clinton through one sex scandal and

I don't think they want to be dragged back through one again. Republicans already have the high road on being stronger on family values (notably false) but like it or not people have bought the package. Look to a man with true family values. Dean 04.

Clark left the race because he realized w/o wins he could not raise the kind of money needed to stay in the race.

[Claire Beth]

104. Dean can't beat Bush

Simple as that. It's going to take someone with military credentials. I like Dean but he just cannot beat Bush.

[MostlyBlackCat2]

146. why military credentials?

Who decided that? The media? oh yes, them again. Telling the voters what they need. Look - we've got a chimp in office who's only credentials are his last name and his friends! He went AWOL, destroyed every business venture his daddy ever gave him, and can't even speak English clearly. We need someone who can run this country, and not run it into the ground. We need someone who can run a business successfully, bring people to the table to negotiate, and mend fences with the world. Given how the world feels about our military right now, I don't know that a military background is going to do that. We need to present voters with a clear alternative. Someone who votes with the Republicans 75% of the time is not an alternative to me. We need to give the Nader voters in 2000 a reason to even bother voting this time. We need someone markedly different from Prince George, not just another shade of gray.

[fudge stripe cookays]

163. There are Republicans WORKING for Dean.

It's all about those crossover voters.

The Greens, Independents, and Republicans working for Dean are our best hope of attracting more like them. Some of whom won't vote for a Democrat if it's NOT Dean.

Stop buying the media bullshit.

[libview]

28. What if Mrs Heinze doesn't " stand by her man" ?

do we want to elect a prez in the middle of a divorce? Dean is looking better and better all the time.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

34. Way below the belt, btw.

And you're totally jumping the gun. We don't know if these allegations are true or not.

[Atlant]

Does it matter if these smearing stories are true? The point is to smear.

Here's how the Vast Reich Wing Sleaze Machine works:

1. Find a story. If it's real, that's nice, but if not, make one up.
   
   
2. Spread it far and wide by blast fax and the Right Wing Talk
   Radio echo chamber. Make sure the Reich Wing tabloids also pick it up.
   
   
3. The weekly supermarket tabloids will then run it just because they
   don't want to miss out on the fun.
   
   
4. Before this story fizzles, return to step 1. Lather, Rinse, Repeat.

It hardly matters at all whether it's true or not because after it's
been repeated 10 bazillion times, the moran-on-the-street will be sure
it's true anyway. And if that's not so, then Al Gore didn't invent the
Internet!

Atlant

[eyesroll]

82. "How long has it been since you finally stopped beating your wife?"

It's a similar tactic.
It doesn't matter that the answer is "I never started." If this gets legs, it'll become true in the eyes of the public.

Whether the public cares or not is another story...

[IndianaGreen]

125. And once Kerry is Clintonized

we should be concerned whether the independent voters want to take a chance on 4 years of DNA evidence and Monica-like revelations.

Edwards is probable the one in the best strategic position to benefit if Kerry has a zipper problem.

[meegbear]

87. Thorazine Dean?

No thanks

[Atlant]

113. Were we talking about Dean? I thought this post was about Kerry. (NT)

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[NoKingGeorge]

31. IF there is any truth to this, Kerry should admit to it today with his

wife at his side. Take accountability. Do the 'he who is without ~'
talk. Accept responsibility , humble, kiss wife , move on.

[truthspeaker]

35. YES. If there's one thing to be learned from Clinton it's this:

If a scandal starts breaking, and it's true, admit the truth as soon as possible. The longer you try to cover it up the worse it will hurt you.

Could also apply to Bush's AWOL scandal, but that's one lesson I'm glad Rove didn't learn.

[Sticky]

40. Absolutely!

AND Take the opportunity to drive home the point that being a leader means being honest and accountable.

[libview]

42. do you think she will want to stand by his side?

he needs her alot more than she needs him

[jean]

139. she could be looking at 4 yrs of bashing - I advise her to ask Hillary

[GreenGreenLimaBean]

52. It none of your Damn business

awol* doesn't have to answer question about drug use, why
the fuck should Kerry have to answer ??? about this bullshit!!!

[dave29]

36. I hate to break this to ya'll

but Drudge broke the Lewinski story. This may be a rumor - but Kerry needs to get out in front of this RIGHT NOW to stop the damage.

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[graelent]

If Kerry admits this, he will lose badly to Bush

No one wants a redo of the Clinton impeachment, and if Kerry did do it once, no one will trust him not to do it again.

If he did this, he needs to drop out of the race right now.

[underpants]

41. That's true that is how he got on the map

We'll see.

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[Sagan]

hate to break it to ya...

But by November, Al Sharpton could beat Chimpy.

No jobs, mounting casualties, civil war in Iraq, huge deficits, out of control Republican spending.....

The Chimp is toast. Why do you think the Dems are scrambling so hard to kneecap each other. ANYONE will be able to be President matched up against Chimpy.

[lancdem]

60. Hitlary?

You ought to try a little harder to hide your biases.

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[zbird]

68. Excuse me, her name is HILLARY.

Freudian slip?

[Deaner1971]

46. and a broken watch is right twice a day.

Drudge prints every rumour that makes a Dem look bad. Of course, he will be right once in a while. If Bush had accused every nation of having WMDs, odds are he would have gotten one right.

Let's not pretend that Monica-gate was Drudge's last accusation or that he is batting 1000.

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[lancdem]

69. Even David Kay doesn't say that

Or haven't you been paying attention?

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[underpants]

89. If you find an old muffler in my backyard does that mean I have a car?

Look before you get booted let me inform you of something.

There was overwhelming evidence from actual experts that WMD's didn't exist and in no way in the scope that W and his minions (you really need to stop listening to people when they all automatically agree on everything) said they did. Common sense tells you that. Do you know what "shelf life" means? Do you know the shelf life of Sarin gas? VX?

No you don't because the media (psst the media isn't liberal that is another lie you are being sold) didn't tell anyone about it. All it took was just a bit of research for anyone to see that these claims were baseless.

Oh and Rove is the spinmeister. See they name things exactly opposite of what they are (Clear Skies, Healthy Forests, etc) and they use focus groups to determine the best way to SELL their policies regardless of the relevance of the message to the actual facts.

Run along now the adults have some important things to discuss.

[Deaner1971]

90. Point?

I am sure he did have time to move or hide them. Whether or not they existed to be hidden or moved post 1996 is questionable.

Of course, the alternative thought that he didn't have them and merely used the idea that he had them as a deterent from invasion is also possible. Poppy Bush's CIA analysis stated that most likely Saddam would use any and all WMDs in his possession if he felt that he was directly threatened with a loss of control. This factored into the decision not to go for regime change in Desert Storm 1.

Strange that a man that alledgedly owned WMDs and had used WMDs did not use them when we invaded with the express goal of getting him. No one has said that they were even issued to troops as Saddam stated on the eve of the invasion.

Lets look at it by components:

Hide - not looking like it. Might still find them but, not looking good. Also, if Bush thought they really exist, why not offer the same amount of money for WMDs as he did for the capture of Saddam? How did we find one man and miss tons of WMDs?

Move - where? And if so, does that mean that our invasion caused exactly what it was supposed to prevent? I.E. the turnover of Saddam's WMDs to another party. Also, how could we have missed their movement. If he had as much as was alledged, it would have required a convoy. Our intel is not that bad.

Destroy - clearly you don't know what is involved in destroy pathogens as hearty as Anthrax spores which the US in Desert Storm 1 was not sure would be destroyed by direct bombing of facilities followed up be incindiary strikes. We would have seen the thermal bloom for incinerators or noticed hundreds of gallons of chemicals being moved to the destruction site.

just my opinion.

[Zero Gravitas]

95. So what?

he is occasionally leaked stories by the corporate media when they can't confirm them but still want to do damage. 99% of what he originates is crap and all of it, true or not, is intended as smears, spin or propaganda.

[IndianaGreen]

127. If Kerry had an affair with a FRENCH woman

then he is truly sunk!

:evilgrin:

[Snivi Yllom]

172. Kerry needs to get out in front

But the damage may be to late. By getting out onf front he legitimizes news coverage which will shortly cover it anyway.

[Sagan]

38. Didn't sink Clinton, won't sink Kerry (if true)

But it will give an interesting counter-weight if the Repugs do try to do anything with Giuliani, though.

They are scorching the earth that they might have to use sometime.

[graelent]

57. It did sink Clinton

Gore lost the election because of these allegations, and made Clinton totally ineffectual for two years.

[Beetwasher]

62. Bullshit

Gore didn't lose the election. The USSC gave the election to Bush.

More people voted for Gore, even with Nader in the race.

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[Beetwasher]

Wrong

Bush took it to SCOTUS because the Florida SC ruled against him.

You are pathetic AND ignorant to boot.

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[ronnykmarshall]

80. Bu' bye!

Enjoy your tombstone.

[graelent]

74. The only reason Bush was close enough to even touch Gore was Clinton

Gore would have won in a landslide, excpet that Bush could campaign on restoring Honor and Dignity to the White House.

I don't argue that Gore won, or that Bush was selected. But Clinton was the reason Gore did not win in a landslide.

[Beetwasher]

79. Wrong Again

Gore didn't win in a landslide because he DISTANCED himself from Clinton. Clinton left office with 70% approval ratings. Look it up. No one cared expect idiotic Republican sex freaks.

[graelent]

86. Yes, Clinton's approval ratings were high

But so were the numbers showing Bush would cream Gore.

Clinton would never have won another term after the impeachment.

And Gore had to run from Clinton, because Gore knew thatBush's "restoring honor and integrity to the white house" line was playing well.

[Beetwasher]

105. You contradict yourself

First of all, there were no numbers showing Bush would cream Gore. Second of all, you have no idea that Clinton would no have won another term. I think he could have.

Lastly, Bush's "Restoring..." crap obviously wasn't working, he lost.

[Norquist Nemesis]

168. Your colors are showing

Clinton was not impeached.

[MUAD_DIB]

122. I thought that the reason that Gore

didn't so so well is that the press kept on saying that Gore isn't doing so well. And let's not forget Nader's wonderful comparison of the Dems and Pubs as being virtually the same.

Gore invented the internet! Gore's always makes thing up about himself!
Bush looks soo presidential! Honor and Integrity!

The press are out of ideas on how to make Emperor Bunnypants look good so it's time to make the other guy look bad.

IF the story is true, I hope that Kerry and wife have come to terms. Remember it's not the sex it's the lying about it under oath. Right?

If the story is false Kerry should go on the attack, and go for the throat.

[Snivi Yllom]

173. correct

and the weakest part of Clinton's otherwise solid record were the affairs.

[dave29]

131. True

but I don't see President Gore right now. Gore may have made a mistake running away from Clinton - but if you think the country will back a Democrat with the same issues as Clinton, minus the Clintonian charm, you are smokin some good $hit.

[Sagan]

75. I'm talking about the Gennifer Flowers thing..

And, on the day of his impeachment, Clinton was more popular than Chimpy is now or at any time other than inflated, post-9/11 numbers.

And, Gore won.

[styersc]

120. It will absolutely sink Kerry-

this is great for Edwards.

[annxburns]

43. This is just too wierd that this breaks ...

.. A DAY after Clark drops out. Were they waiting for that?

[TryingToWarnYou]

44. I want to hear the white house

say that this is "gutter politics".

Questioning our pResident on his lack of service is gutter politics, but touting rumor of an extramarital affair is not?

I guess we could always ask Newt Gingrich his opinion....

[underpants]

45. I'm glad the Repubs aren't "trolling for trash" or using "gutter politics"

Becasue if they did that would make them full of s**t. IMHO.

[K8-EEE]

53. Yeah Military Records Are "Trolling" But THIS Is Relevant?

What bullshit. Yawn. God who cares.

[Raster]

116. THIS IS ROVIAN BULLSHIT, PLAIN AND SIMPLE...

DON'T FEED OR ENCOURAGE THE TROLLS!

[demdave]

47. If this is true, he is toast.

The country will not elect another official that can't keep his hands off interns. Right or wrong, it is a fact. The public was sick and tired of the Clinton scandal and will never put itself through it again.

We can only hope it is false. (But this is Drudge's field of expertease. Pun intended)

[Southsideirish]

85. If this is true - he really let his people down. What a disappointment

he turns out to be. I'm not one to take glee in someone else's misery but I recall him harping on the missing Dean family in Iowa - and how bad it was for a candidate not to have his family standing around him, etc. I thought it was a cruel comment at the time (HD kids in school, wife at home with medical practice) and I thought less of him for it. Maybe its what "goes around comes around" time for Kerry.

[nolabels]

49. Not that It would matter to me, but how about a little more info?

like when, where, who, witnesses etc. Political satire fine, but any real news sources yet?

[underpants]

67. First marriage? Seperated? "Running out of the country"?

Yes there are very few facts here and to be honest this woman sounds a lot like "Jennifer from the State Dept." Poppa Bush's old girlfriend.

[nolabels]

73. Testing google news alerts for " kerry cheated on wife "

still waiting, nothing personal just testing the system,

[RoadRunner]

50. GWB just lost the election

Kerry's wife has said several times that she would be willing to spend her $500,000,000 in the election if her "family is attacked." Apparently that's totally legal under campaign finance laws.

I think Karl Rove just picked a fight he cannot win.

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[Screaming Lord Byron]

72. That's right Karl. You are personally responsible.

[Norquist Nemesis]

54. Wonder which cable news network will be the first to report it

*flipping channels*

[West Coast Democrat]

56. Unemployment numbers rose again. What do you expect?

Also, retail sales were lower last month. These guys are desperate.

[DemNoir]

71. I hate this as much as anyone

But if this turns out to be valid he is done. We simply cannot have another democratic candidate with this kind of baggage.

[Jim Sagle]

78. It's none of anyone's fuckin' business, PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[nolabels]

96. Then why are you here?

You can't draw up a set rules everyone should agree on if the rules you want set up is for keeping people in the dark and trotting them out when they have double standards to use when you see fit.

But when you own all the windpipes to tell people what to say and think you can sometimes get away with it.

Welcome to the world of Orwell

[Jacobin]

84. I got smeared for asking whether we would have bimbo eruption

about three weeks ago, in GD2004.

"Ooooh, of course not." "he's not a rounder",,,,"what are you trying to diss Kerry for no reason?"

I don't care if any of the candidates, including Smirk, screw goats, I really couldn't care less, but GODDAMNIT, this is gonna get all the "oooooooh, he had sex" creeps all riled up and here we go again with the puritanical assholes fucking up this country.

&*%$* you Kerry, why didja have to jump in the middle of this thing knowing this crap would come out.

We need to get rid of Smirky sooooooooooooooooooooooo badly, but you had to let your ego get in the way of your judgement.

[Atlant]

92. If Mother Theresa were the Dem, there'd have been a bimbo eruption.

You could almost have bet on a "bimbo eruption" no matter who
the candidate was. If Mother Theresa were running as our candidate
(and yes, a dead nun would still beat George Bush in a fair fight),
there'd still have been stories about the "suspicious goings-on
late at night in her old convent".

The Vast Reich Wing Conspiracy / Vast Media Smear Machine would
have seen to it.

It's a shame a lot of people didn't understand that before.

Atlant

[SandyL]

93. excuse me

Not a puritan, by any means....

But your point could be made with a bit more finesse and support if you could leave out the profanity.

[Southsideirish]

98. Excellent point - now we are now very vulnerable to Bush.

I knew the party shouldn't have been in such a rush to anoint someone. As much as I hated the long time when Dean was being scrutinized - when they were done with him they really found nothing bad or dishonorable about him.
That's why a rush to judgment is so terrible when the stakes are so high - what was the big hurry to crown Kerry the nominee?
Now, if true, we will all have to pay the price having our "most electable" humiliated before the whole world.

[SandyL]

88. Good Grief - more mud

An idealist at heart, I suppose.  I am extremely tired of
NEVER witnessing any type of election campaign without the mud
slinging.  There is not one person living today that does not
have a skeleton in their closet.  NO ONE!

[LeftHander]

91. might was well forget the issues now

Kerry is toast if this is true. You can bet he won't win another primary.

Frankly I wasn't much of a Kerry supporter and I couldn't figure out why he was winning.

get ready for 4 more years of Bush then 8 of jeb after the elections are totally diebolded...

[DemNoir]

97. You can forget Rove being at the heart of this

I really dont think they would want to kill Kerry so early and hand the nomination to Edwards. It would not make sense.

[GRClarkesq]

107. If he did have an affair

please let it not be an intern or similar. Affair with someone outside his office easier to deal with than intern.

Wait and see if the networks go with story now that they have been outed by Drudge.

[jean]

wasn't there a fleeting mention of a "young woman" delivering papers to

his residence while Mrs. Kerry was out of town - I recall reading this maybe two weeks ago "somewhere" - I'll go look for it

[fizzana]

99. Anyway you slice this, it's not good news.

True or untrue, this will take the heat off the AWOL issue that finally picking up serious steam.

If it's true, and unfortunately Drudge is right once in a while, Kerry has just fucked the Democratic Party and he'd better step aside before any more damage is done.

[nolabels]

110. I think your correct, sure seems like they have a whole lot of nothing

If they did, why in the heck wasn't all over the place before, insiders would leaked it out a long time ago. They are really stretching for something to change the subject.

[Seldona]

100. Do what Clinton SHOULD have done.

Look right into the camera and say, 'This is none of your business!'

Then put your arm around your wife, turn your back and walk away.

JUST DON'T LIE!

[Romel]

111. Yea Right

Your asking a politician not to lie? If only we could get the truth from just one of them, I would be happy. If you recall Kerry said he threw his medals over the fence. Later he admitted he really through someone else's medals over the fence. That was lie #1. I hope this time he tells the truth for the good of our party.

[Cooley Hurd]

102. We can't use the Clinton model to predict how this will turn out...

Things have changed dramatically since 1992 - namely the Lewinsky scandal. Clinton-fatigue was a factor in the 2000 race. It certainly cost Gore votes which brought the race close enough for the repugs to steal.

Best thing for John Kerry to do at this point is to TELL THE TRUTH, and repudiate the inquisitors (like Poppy did to Dan Rather when confronted about Jennifer Fitzgerald - he didn't deny it, but turned on Rather for asking such a question). If he does this, we'll weather it. Best to get it out now and get it behind him - it'll be a non-issue by November.

[enki23]

103. might put a black mark in his "electability" column

even if it isn't true. of course, rove and crew have a way of doing that to any candidate they don't like, republican or no. we can expect the equivalent, if not the same, for anyone who looks dangerous to bush. true or not, the rumors and innuendo will fly fast and hot.

[demnan]

108. What I find curious about the article

is how would Wesley Clark know about Kerry's indescretions?

[Atlant]

117. Guys talk. (NT)

[Ohio_Norm]

109. Can we get the facts

before we start planning the funeral?

Anyone who thinks that we can trust what's posted on Drudge without verification is...well, is Fox News!

[Romel]

119. The source

Drudge claims it came from Wesley Clark. If this is true, he should have kept his mouth shut.

[annxburns]

129. Don't blame Clark for this ...

... if it is true - which I doubt. And the AP and Time and those other sources were investigating it ... and Clark isn't the source. Drudge is probably smearing Clark so he won't get back in - who repeats an "off the record" comment?

[Romel]

Drude is not smearing Clark

If this is true Clark wouldn't get back in anyway. He didn't get enough support in the primarys to warrant a re-entry. It would be Deans baby.

[nolabels]

143. Who needs facts, we run on innuendo around here

Here is a fun read I just found

http://www.chicoexaminer.com/col_KJ/col_KJ_19981029.html

October 29, 1998
Elective Affinities, Part II

The sexual shenanigans of Ronald and Nancy Reagan were never a secret. Both were most relentlessly promiscuous while in Hollywood, locus of the nation’s largest, longest, strongest and most obsessively tended gossip grapevine. Many a starlet seeking studio entree via the well-traveled smile-and-spread circuit hopefully ungirdled her loins and passed under Reagan, while Nancy’s name was routinely circulated among executives in search of a fast and practiced backseat blowjob. Power to the mavens of the entertainment press means possessing such tantalizing tidbits; once the Reagans began their improbable electoral ascent, the information easily passed through the flimsy scrim separating the Hollywood desk from those patrolling the political beat. Campaign operatives and reporters shamelessly swap gossip with nearly every breath, and thus the Reagans’ sexual adventuring eventually became such common knowledge that even I, who have always occupied only the very outer arm of the political-gossip spiral, knew of Nancy’s legendary mouthwork long before Robin Leach coyly alluded to it during Reagan’s first term, and had heard as well of the 57-year-old Reagan’s creaky coupling with an 18-year-old campaign worker. Though until Kitty Kelly I’d never heard the tale of how Reagan blithely bounced the bedsprings with lover Christine Larson while wife Nancy struggled to give birth to daughter Patti, I was one of probably millions of Americans cognizant of the open joke of Nancy’s cuckolding of Ronnie with longtime lover Frank Sinatra in the residence quarters of the White House, and anyone in the nation who paid attention to the numbers—and could count even to nine—realized Nancy was four months pregnant when she pledged to Ron "I do."

It is not only Reagan salaciousness that reached the remote outpost of these ears years before appearing in the public prints. A half-decade prior to the mad-admiral scuttling of his presidential aspirations aboard the Monkey Business, I learned that Gary Hart’s prolonged exposure to Warren Beatty had so inflated his libido he could no longer control the contents of his pants. Shortly after the 1984 Democratic National Convention I was regaled with the tale of a young Arkansas nobody named Bill Clinton, who earnestly inquired of party vets if his presidential ambitions might be harmed by accusations of "womanizing" even as he publicly squired a different dazzling woman each night through the hills of San Francisco. Newt Gingrich confining his extramarital ejaculations to the mouths of young lovelies in the bizarre belief this did not constitute "adultery" reached me as rumor some months before attaining ink in a 1995 issue of Vanity Fair. Nor was it news to me when the New York Post broke the story of the long-running affair between George Bush and aide Jennifer Fitzgerald, or when the Washington Post belatedly went public with details of the romance between Bob Dole and his longtime inamorata.

(snip)
(snip)

If Ronald Reagan, his wife, his vice-president, and prominent members of both his party and his private "kitchen cabinet" all enjoyed lives honeycombed with illicit sexual behavior, and if their extramarital detours were so ill-concealed even an obscure West Coast journalist could become privy to them, why then, one wonders, did news of these numerous dalliances and flings not dominate the national discourse for months of time and millions of dollars?

Five reasons, I think. First, exposes of the private lives of prominent politicians, their families and close associates, were as yet considered "not cricket." Though Gerald Ford’s wife Betty was for decades notorious in Washington as a slurring, stumbling substance abuser, members of the press daintily refrained from comment until Betty herself fessed up and sought treatment. When Ford’s vice-president, Nelson Rockefeller, died inside a young "secretary," the New York media colluded in concealing the details of his passing. No one but rogue journalist Hunter Thompson made mention during the turmoil of Watergate that House Speaker Carl Albert, who in those days found himself more than once but "a heartbeat from the presidency," was a glassy-eyed alcoholic who’d been blind drunk throughout much of his public career. Lyndon Johnson’s unbridled sexual appetite, which ranged from gleefully cuckolding major campaign-contributors to grinningly twisting the nipples of women randomly encountered in elevators, seeped into ink only in a 1961 roman-a-clef by former Johnson Senate staffer William Frammer, The Gay Place, with only the incorruptible iconoclast Murray Kempton pointing out the connection between "Arthur Fenstemaker" and LBJ. John Kennedy, we now know, snorted cocaine off the fine glistening thighs of Marilyn Monroe, liked to take his wife’s personal secretary up against the wall, and, when "the little death" approached as he bucked beneath some lass astride him in the bath, routinely summoned a Secret Service agent to suddenly thrust the woman’s head underwater, thereby inducing vaginal contractions that increased the intensity of the presidential orgasm. Somehow none of this made the nightly news at the time
(snip)

edited to shorten, but it does seem funny or even sick to me that others would question if others do or do not have a libido as a result of the political party they identify with. We are after all, only Human

[Cush]

115. no mention on CNN or MSNBC

[hiphopnation]

118. Can we all please...

just go and jam the site. CAN EVERYONE ON THIS BOARD PLEASE GO FLOOOOD DRUDGE'S MAILBOX WITH VICIOUS SCATHING HATE MAIL PLEASE?? Go send him 25 emails and get all of your friends who care about keeping newsreporting fair and responsible to do the same. It's the only way to stop this loony tune.

Thank you and good night.

[Romel]

121. The truth will come out

We may not like Drudge but he was the first to break the Monica scandal.

[Teaser]

135. 4 posts Romel?

Just checking.

[Romel]

140. This is a hot topic

and i just learned of this site. thank you very much.

[hiphopnation]

137. So I'm supposed to have respect

for Drudge because he "broke" the Monica "scandal"?? Don't think so. He's a glorified school-boy cutting and pasting half-stories with little accountability from the profession to which he has conveniently affixed himself.

listen closely...FUCK MATT DRUDGE

[IndianaGreen]

141. Why?

We are still in the middle of the primary season. If there is any dirt out there, it is better if it comes out now.

For all I know this is either a total smear by Drudge, or if the story turns out to be true, then this is a case of Kerry getting back some of his bad karma back.

[dawn]

123. THIS is gutter politics

It makes me sick. I could care less about the sex lives of politicians.

My distaste for (some) Republicans is now at the breaking point. I'm tired of this crap.

Anyone who slams someone else for their sexual "misconduct" should take a hard look in the mirror, first. Then again, I think Repugs hate Democrats for even having sex at all, because they can't get any!

Edited for spelling.

[IndianaGreen]

144. Yes, dawn, this is gutter politics of the worse kind

and we still have 9 months to go before the election.

[progressivebydesign]

147. Yeah.. like the Dean and Osama ads. N/T

[kerouac]

124. GOP didn't mind it when Dole & Gingrich did it. n/t

[progressivebydesign]

126. They couldn't wait.. could they?

I thought for sure the assbites would wait until Kerry had it locked up to start all this. If their goal was to keep Bush in the White House, then they jumped too soon. If their goal was to destroy our nominee, they should have waited until there was no longer a choice.

Looking at the drubbing Kerry is taking on message boards all over the internet today... it's not looking good for him. I'm convinced.. no one is good enough to be president. People like George Bush get elected because all of his past misdeeds were unexamined during the election, made to seem like the rantings of conspiracy theorists alone.

Politics sux!

[Sagan]

130. You know what would make me laugh my ass off?

If some Dems planned this to trap and smack Drudge.

Everyone knows he can't resist a sleazy story.

[Stagger lee]

136. Josh Marshall

I think I'm going to wait for Josh Marshall to contribute his angle to this issue before I jump off a bridge. He seems to have very reliable inside information from journalists.

[Catherine Vincent]

138. BFD!

[The Blue Knight]

160. I must ask....who cares?

I only think something like this should be exposed if:


a) It shows a supreme case of hypocrisy.
b) It effects the way they do their jobs.


I also am a firm believer that no "dirt" on a candidate should be fair game until they're older than 25, because you're still young and prone to juvenile indiscrestion.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

142. Are you matcom or Matt Drudge? since when is this LBN quality?

good god I can't believe it.

[matcom]

154. are you KIDDING ME?

thanks for the slam. much appreciated.

its posted.
its news whether or NOT its true

:eyes:

[hiphopnation]

162. That's the point

it's not "News" just because it's posted...especially if it's on Drudge. I would expect folks around here to know that.

[matcom]

165. WRONG

it news because it WAS posted

THAT is the news here.

nothing more, nothing less

the news is they are trying this tactic.

[hiphopnation]

167. This is why...

Drudge has the clout he does. Because he can post something like this...trying to smear, "reporting" a rumor, testing political tactics, he gets web-heads chatting and before you know it's "news" and there are almost 200 posts HERE at this left-wing website.

All the links are to his own post! This is not news, it's bullshit and so is Drudge. We need to start a boycott.

[0007]

145. I heard that Laura had an affair also - now let's put 1 + 1 together, 'eh?

[West Coast Democrat]

149. Okay, I finally read Drudge's story; There is no story

Drudge is the source of this story. It sounds ridiculous.

[Beetwasher]

152. Exactly! THERE'S NO STORY!

It's unsupported bullshit that Drudge made up out of his fevered imagination from something he think Clark might have said. It's total bullshit.

[Magleetis]

150. I guess

we now know just how upset the Repugs are about the Bush* national guard story

[IndianaGreen]

153. Why is Kerry taking a "rare" break from the campaign trail? (CNN)

This rather innocent paragraph on a CNN news story may have a different meaning altogether if there is something to the Drudge story:

Edwards, Dean chase Kerry in Wisconsin
Massachusetts senator's campaign dismisses 1970 Fonda photo
Thursday, February 12, 2004 Posted: 11:56 AM EST (1656 GMT)

(CNN) -- With Sen. John Kerry taking a rare break from the campaign trail, Sen. John Edwards and former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean tried to convince Wisconsin voters the Democratic presidential race isn't over despite the Massachusetts senator's growing string of victories.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/02/12/elec04.prez.main/

:tinfoilhat:

[Magleetis]

157. I heard that he was taking a break

on NPR yesterday. The reporter sounded puzzled as to why.

[IndianaGreen]

161. I suspected it had something to do with health reasons

Teresa Heinz did say a few days ago that Kerry did not rest properly after his prostrate surgery. I thought that Kerry taking some time off, which he has done once before, was because he was too tired from the grueling schedule. His body was still not up to par.

The timing of Kerry taking a day off at the time the Drudge story breaks could be coincidence, or it could be connected.

I am suspicious.

[seasat]

169. Heard after one of the primaries, he was nursing a bad cold.

They said he'd grown hoarse and was at home trying to battle a head cold caught in the races.

[bushisanidiot]

156. Do Ya Think Drudge Will Scoop AWOL's ex-girlfriends abortion?

nah! we'll never hear about THAT!

if the repukes are going to hit below the belt, then AWOL's aborted lovechild should be fair game.

they have pics of jane fonda with kerry in the distant background. we have documents that show AWOL was ARRESTED FOR DUI. they have pics of kerry protesting agains the war as a vietnam vet. we have pics of AWOL yucking it up as a coke snortin' cheerleader for his college's football team. keep it up. we can match and beat you with every single accusation!

[loftycity]

158. This is why all the candidates should of stayed in until the Convention..

You all knew the Re-knuckle heads would do this. And their pious,bible beating will continue. And they will keep lying, they believe their own lies..it's only going to get worse.

They still haven't even dug into their 200 million dollar re-elect the Gov chest yet...

[BiggJawn]

159. Drudge must read the BBC page....

From today's article about the campaign:

"Now, nothing short of some shocking revelation - some financial or sexual scandal or revelations of treason - can stop John Kerry from winning the Democratic Party nomination."

They're trying all 3.

Drudge=SEX!!!

The RW= "He breathed the same air as Hanoi Jane! TRAITOR!!!"

and <unamed candidate> provides the financial angle with his whine about who paid for some TV ads....

Good thing I'm not running for anything...They'd shit themselves over MY bedroom history!

[ArkDem]

164. Sounds like the Clinton's have been at work

.

[libview]

166. I was thinking the same thing.....

I still believe the Clintons want Bush elected to clear the way for Hillary in "08"

[leftynyc]

174. And I thought that was only freeper paranoia

Their obession with Hillary would be hilarious if it weren't so twisted.

[libview]

170. Funny how it was Clintons guy ClarK that told 12 reporters

"off the record"
Ya..right

[alittlelark]

171. Please tell me it's not true.

I've been feelin' so good these last few days. The only thing that perks me up in this, is that Rove&Co. must be pretty desperate to get the AWOL off the front burner.....I'm sure, if true it was planned to be released later in the game. Perhaps Rove's cards are being played out too fast and he will have none left.

[Moderator]

175. We don't like using druge as an LBN source

If this gets reported by a reputable news agency, feel free to repost.