Schwarzenegger Pitches Props 57 and 58 in San Jose

[treefrogjohn]

and disses the poor.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=350&e=1&u=/kpix/20040206/lo_kpix/9089

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In fact, every one of these 150 or so Silicon Valley CEOs who gathered at Adobe Thursday had the same goal. They wanted to tell Governor Schwarzenegger all about it, hoping he would pick up their cause and help.

"This governor, unlike probably no other governor in our history, can grab on to that bully pulpit with more authority and influence than anyone," said Carl Guardino of the Silicon Valley Manufacturing Group.

So what did the governor do with that bully pulpit? Did he embrace the concerns of the CEOs? Not for a second. In a quick appearance, Schwarzenegger put in a pitch for Propositions 57 and 58, then left. The only time he seemed to start discussing the economic downturn, he turned it into a joke.

"People are poor in this state now. With the economy going down, people have no clothes anymore. Look what happened to Janet Jackson," he said


Yep, it's a new way of doing business with Arnold in charge.

[gWbush is Mabus]

1. I VANT TO SQUEEZE YOUR BREAST!

[Sugarbleus]

34. LOL LOL n/t

[BearFlagDemocrat]

2. Three comments, Mr. Governor...

1) You're an idiot.

2) That incident took place in *Houston*, not California.

3) You're an idiot.

[Tears4fear]

3. Mr. schwarzenger

i still cant believe that he is governor of california! he should be making more movies. down with republicans!

[twilight]

6. hi Tears4fear!!

:hi: and welcome to the DU!!!

:hi: from another Kucinich supporter! :hi:





:dem: :kick:

[KamaAina]

4. Way to go, Ahh-nuld. Make a groping joke in public.

Isn't it great that the grownups are back in charge? </sarcasm>

[twilight]

5. No on props. 57 & 58!!!

Arnold is such a creep! Vote NO on these two propositions! NO!

I was at the store yesterday and there was a person outside collecting signatures for two of Arnie's ideas - limited stem cell research (multiple sclerosis NOT included, thank Schwarzenazi!) and another one to tax the Indians at a 25% rate on profits from their casinos.

Pissed me off like all hell. To the stem cell thing - I refused to sign it and stated to the person that if not all diseases that can benefit from stem cell therapy are not included, like MS (!!!), I will NOT sign this!

To the Indian gaming I taunted: "It won't work dummy. They are sovereign nations! Go fight the FEDERAL laws on sovereignty!" Makes me so angry! This is what Arnie wants (these two ideas remember???).

It reminds me so much of the recall situation it is not funny. As usual, the real facts are not being told!!! :grr:

I say leave the Indians and their casinos alone! Its bad enough what white eyes has done to them. Finally the Indian people have come up with a working plan/project to care for themselves and their tribes via the casinos and whitey is jealous and whitey needs more money now (or should I say the gropenazi needs more money now?). :grr:

in the meantime ...

!!!!!!!!!

:dem: :kick:

[MsLeopard]

7. Yeah...

I thought he was going to "oppen da boooks" and California's ecoonomic crisis would all go away.... That's what he said and why isn't the news media holding him accountable?

Oh yeah, he's got that R after him name. Must have lost my mind for a moment.....

[Journeyman]

10. Actually, the books were "opened". . .

and surprise, there was very little waste to be found. Of course, this received very little notice as it didn't fit with the illusion du jour presently being pushed in California.

(There was very little "opening" possible with the books, since the California budget process is, and always has been, a very open process in all regards. Anyone familiar with the state's financial history would know this. . . but then, that's probably expecting too much from someone who wanted to be the "governator".)

[shanti]

13. what?

you voted for him?

[MsLeopard]

18. No

I wouldn''t vote for him on my worst day!

[shanti]

22. whew!

ok, you scared me for a hot minute! lol

[mrdmk]

8. It seems strange to me about the media

When a person reads about Governor Schwarzenegger in the print media, one receives a report of he wants to go into this direction with these points but here are the issues and are all of the bases covered with these policies.

When a person hears Governor Schwarzenegger on the radio or sees him on TV the human race could not be better. These glowing reports are suspect when one receives such rosy reports about this person. The conclusion is that Governor Schwarzenegger is the air wave media darling and all of his policies are suspect.

Yes 55-Public Education Fac. Bond Act 2004

Don't Know 56-State Budget, Related Taxes and Reserve

No 57-California Economic Bond Act

No 58-California Balanced Budget Act


edit: missing word

[twilight]

9. If I "don't know"

I always vote NO. I may vote NO on all of them. They seem loaded with too many IF words for me.

NO ON THE WHOLE LOT OF THEM! :evilgrin:

:dem: :kick:

[mrdmk]

12. 56-State Budget, Related Taxes and Reserve

I am saying don't know to this is for another reason. That reason is called safe districts. The Gerrymandering of congressional districts seems to be the problem here. The pay issue about the elected officials not being payed is a joke. A lot of these people are multi-millionaires who could give two farts in the wind about being payed. There is also the 55% vote to increase budget and budget-related tax/appropriation bills. You are correct, I am almost inclined to vote no.

[shanti]

14. VOTE YES ON PROP 56!

this is a vote for the PEOPLE!



Joyce Fox, retired, works the phones at CSEA headquarters, urging members to vote YES on Prop. 56. "State workers are in danger of being paid minimum wage, services are threatened, and our pension security is undermined when budgets aren't passed on time," she says. "Prop. 56 will help make sure workers and the services we provide are no longer held hostage by partisan budget politics."


Hold Legislators Accountable for Fair Budgets, On Time

Prop. 56 is the most important ballot initiative for state employees and retirees in years. That's why CSEA members have voted to make it our top priority between now and the election on March 2.

Volunteer now to help pass Prop. 56!
Prop. 56 is particularly important to all state and university employees and retirees, because if a budget isn't passed by the constitutional June 30 deadline, state and university workers would be forced to accept minimum wage of $6.75 an hour until a budget is passed. Exempt employees (those not eligible for overtime) and supervisors would not be paid at all.

Because California is one of only three states that requires a two-thirds vote to pass a budget, a small group of legislators is able to hold the budget hostage year after year. Often, these legislators not only want to shrink state government services, but also want to shrink state and university employee pensions and pose a threat to full pension funding.

Prop. 56 will help solve these problems by promoting the passage of fair budgets that protect state services, pensions, and good jobs.

What Prop. 56 Does:

Holds politicians accountable. Prop. 56 requires state legislators and the governor to permanently forfeit their pay and expenses for every day the budget is late.

Ends partisan gridlock. California is only one of three states requiring a two-thirds vote to pass a budget. Prop. 56 sets the vote at 55 percent, still a broad consensus but not so high that a small minority can hold the budget hostage year after year.
Makes the budget a priority. If the deadline is missed, Prop. 56 requires legislators to remain in session and work solely on the budget until it is passed.

Provides voter information. Prop. 56 makes it easy to learn how legislators voted on the budget by publishing the information in the Official Voter Pamphlet and putting it on the Web.
Promotes responsible budgeting. Prop. 56 requires the state to create a "rainy day fund" of 5 percent in years when finances are good to support state services in years when the budget is in bad shape.

[mrdmk]

15. I am concidering this issue # 56

My real concern are these safe districts. These politicans cannot be voted out, so with hold pay. Was this the "t e r m l i m i t s" issue. Now we have a problem with politicans planning for future. I think we really need to work out the safe districts problem, not just put a band-aid on it.

[shanti]

23. no, this is about state workers

they are always threatening to cut their pay while the legislators drag out the budget. this has to stop! turnabout is fair play. hold up THEIR pay and see how they like it.

i'm not up on the term limits issue...

[mrdmk]

26. I am serious about looking into this issue

I so not like the idea of people not getting compensated in full for their efforts that were agreed to.

Need to split, more latter.

Bless you all!

[Sugarbleus]

35. Thanks for clearing that up. I was going to vote no, but now I get it. n/t

[davidinalameda]

17. multi-millionaires?

my state rep is a school teacher--Gene Mullins

my last rep was a small business owner--Mark Leno


don't think either one is a multi-millionaire

[mrdmk]

25. My apologies for making a blanket statement

I live in Orangutan (Orange) County and most people running and get elected to office are well off. I am sure there are Reps who need their pay checks just like you and I. This was rude of me not taking all things into consideration.

[davidinalameda]

16. I voted yes on the first and no on the last two

I vote absentee

[twilight]

20. really? when did you vote?

I haven't received an absentee ballot yet. Please advise.

Thank you.

twilight

:dem: :kick: :kick: :kick:

[shanti]

24. the absentee ballot

is attached to the back of the voter booklet. well, actually, it's a request for an absentee ballot.

[twilight]

27. I am a permanent absentee voter and have not received a ballot

When did anyone receive theirs? Should I have received mine yet?

Please advise!

:dem: :kick:

[shanti]

11. OMFG!!!

everything is a joke to him! :grr:

[Snappy]

19. I am not amused.

As a Kalifornian who did not vote for this fraud I am not surprised that he has already brocken his promises and lies like the rest of the Rethugs.

[tom_paine]

21. Jesus Christ, could Marie Antoinette have said it any better?

"People are poor in this state now. With the economy going down, people have no clothes anymore. Look what happened to Janet Jackson," (Ahnold) said.

Could Ferdinand Marcos, safe in his plush palaces with his Steak Gut, have laughed any more callously at the plight of the misfortunate in the Empire?

Schwarzennegr is a pig. An aristocratic empty-headed piece-of-shit not fit to lead an anthill.

Damn, sh*t like this is enough to make a man reconsdier Communism! It's enough to make a man want to laugh and clink his glass in a toast to poetic justice if that aristocratic pile of shit Gropenfuhrer were to die in a hideous accident tomorrow.

:grr: :grr: :argh: :mad: :grr: :argh:

[fortyfeetunder]

31. Thus spake the Groper King

WTF was he to comment on Janet Jackson....sheesh...he who gropes first...has no credibility on any other sexual topic...

[Xithras]

28. A no on 57 & 58 will screw California's poor.

FYI, I work at a large college and we recently received our budget analysts workup on the governors fiscal plans for this year and the early proposed budget for next year.

Understand this: If these propositions fail, we will LITERALLY be throwing kids out of classrooms mid-semester, shutting down buildings, and pinkslipping faculty and staff by the end of March. Our budgets for the year...THIS YEAR...were written based on funding promises by the state that they will be unable to keep if these bonds fail.

There is a reason why the major unions, the board of education, teacher unions, and others as diverse ad Jerry Brown, La Raza, and leading lawmakers from both parties support the passage of these bonds.

If they fail, we're f***ed!

[confusionisnext]

29. No on 57 means we'll have to raise taxes at least a little.

And I'm all for that. It's too politically risky for Arnold or the Legislature to cut too deeply into education or social services. Arnold is playing chicken.

[Xithras]

30. A nice theory, but we'll be broke!

Apparently that last part wasn't too clear. The state university and college budgets for THIS YEAR were drawn on the premise that certain funds would be available because of the car tax increase. When Groper rolled back the car taxes, he cut billions from THIS YEARS budget. We need 57 to cover that shortfall.

Even if 57 were to fail, and the Gropenator and Legislature were to agree on new taxes the next day, we'd run out of money before the state had a chance to even collect those new taxes.

I received an email from my union steward about this today which stated that the CSEA wouldn't be able to protect our positions if 57 and 58 were to fail, because there simply wouldn't be enough money left in the schools payroll accounts to pay everybody in April. He was quite blunt about the dire consequences that our students, teachers, and staff would face if 57 failed, and encouraged us to promote it wherever possible. I'm doing that now.

A vote against 58 is a vote against schools!

[savistocate]

32. Think again...

Your own theory requires more research. That is just what RWer
thieves want you to believe. What chance is there that programs, schools included, will be funded if it passes and the $$$loan$
gets to THEM?

The big creeps joke could not be more laaaame.
That statement by a CEO.. gropenator could speak with !!moral authority!!?? the lamest.

Santa Clara(SiliconValley) by significant margin did NOT elect the fraud "gov."
Monterey thru Santa Cruz thru SF& Marin --Alameda-OaklandBerkeley questionable vote counting --rejected the ugly sham Wilson puppet.

Permanent Absentee voters received ballots this week...call your Registrar's office.

[The Zanti Regent]

33. Make Jay Leno Pay His Fair Share of Taxes!

Vote NO on 57 and 58.

MAKE ARNOLD RAISE TAXES ON THE RICH!

[CHIMO]

36. How

Are you going to answer to R. Carter.