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| robcon
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Wed Aug-20-08 07:58 AM Original message |
| McCain takes 5-point lead over Obama-Reuters poll |
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JCMach1
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Wed Aug-20-08 08:00 AM Response to Original message |
| 1. It is clear that Obama has lost all traction since his overseas trip |
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| baldguy
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Wed Aug-20-08 08:03 AM Response to Reply #1 |
| 3. to Hawai'i? |
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JCMach1
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Wed Aug-20-08 08:12 AM Response to Reply #3 |
| 11. European trip... |
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| ksimons
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Wed Aug-20-08 08:20 AM Response to Reply #1 |
| 16. the thing about polls... |
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wryter2000
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Wed Aug-20-08 11:28 AM Response to Reply #16 |
| 112. Welcome to DU |
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SteelPenguin
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Wed Aug-20-08 08:02 AM Response to Original message |
| 2. They're claiming a 12 point swing in a month? |
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| aggiesal
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Wed Aug-20-08 12:02 PM Response to Reply #2 |
| 130. I don't believe this poll for 1 second. Most polls are ... |
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Ken Burch
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Thu Aug-21-08 03:50 AM Response to Reply #130 |
| 165. So, for all we know, this could be the modern equivalent of the "Liberty Digest" poll of 1936 |
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| aggiesal
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Thu Aug-21-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #165 |
| 173. Yes, I believe that this could turn out to be that same sitch. n/t |
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| Starlight
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Thu Aug-21-08 09:00 AM Response to Reply #2 |
| 169. Seriously. Are we supposed to believe people are that fickle? |
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merwin
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Wed Aug-20-08 08:04 AM Response to Original message |
| 4. Actually, Zogby is one of the better ones. |
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JaneQPublic
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Wed Aug-20-08 08:30 AM Response to Reply #4 |
| 26. I lost faith in Zogby after the 2004 election. (nt) |
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| Captain Hilts
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Wed Aug-20-08 08:47 AM Response to Reply #4 |
| 32. Zogby is a good pollster and he's very unpartisan. nt |
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merwin
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Wed Aug-20-08 08:50 AM Response to Reply #32 |
| 34. I just listened to an interview with him on Jon Elliott's show. |
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| Captain Hilts
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Wed Aug-20-08 08:59 AM Response to Reply #34 |
| 39. He's a Democrat who happened to do a lot of work with Republicans. |
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maseman
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Wed Aug-20-08 10:58 AM Response to Reply #4 |
| 85. I know polling and research |
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| Clintonista2
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Wed Aug-20-08 11:52 AM Response to Reply #4 |
| 122. With zogby I found that |
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Botany
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Wed Aug-20-08 08:04 AM Response to Original message |
| 5. This is pure bullshit |
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Pharaoh
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Wed Aug-20-08 08:22 AM Response to Reply #5 |
| 19. Yup! |
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Triana
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Wed Aug-20-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #19 |
| 95. Most Americans are misinformed. Many willfully so. Others because they listen to the M$M exclusively |
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| Xenotime
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Thu Aug-21-08 11:28 AM Response to Reply #19 |
| 171. I was going to say the same thing. |
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| Captain Hilts
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Wed Aug-20-08 09:00 AM Response to Reply #5 |
| 40. But you don't know how polling works. It's just a snapshot. Relax. nt |
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Botany
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Wed Aug-20-08 09:06 AM Response to Reply #40 |
| 43. I know how polling works |
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| Captain Hilts
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Wed Aug-20-08 09:09 AM Response to Reply #43 |
| 45. Thank you for stating the obvious. It's more complicated than that. nt |
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Botany
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Wed Aug-20-08 09:52 AM Response to Reply #45 |
| 67. Really it is not much more complicated than that |
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sellitman
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Wed Aug-20-08 08:05 AM Response to Original message |
| 6. This coupled with the dirty voting machines makes me very nervous |
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| Eurobabe
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Wed Aug-20-08 08:16 AM Response to Reply #6 |
| 14. My fear this morning too |
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| tibbiit
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Wed Aug-20-08 08:24 AM Response to Reply #14 |
| 22. get your vp out |
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| Eurobabe
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Wed Aug-20-08 08:27 AM Response to Reply #22 |
| 24. exactly |
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ChiciB1
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Wed Aug-20-08 11:56 AM Response to Reply #14 |
| 124. AND MAKE IT JOE BIDEN PLEASE!!!! n/t |
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| GoesTo11
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Wed Aug-20-08 08:07 AM Response to Original message |
| 7. McCain has 9 point edge on managing the economy??? |
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| paparush
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Wed Aug-20-08 11:08 AM Response to Reply #7 |
| 93. That staggered me this morning. I couldn't f-ing believe it. |
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Thrill
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Wed Aug-20-08 08:09 AM Response to Original message |
| 8. And Obama was up by 10 in Texas against Hillary in their Poll. I don't buy it |
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TwilightGardener
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Wed Aug-20-08 08:10 AM Response to Original message |
| 9. Reading the article, it says that while McCain is holding on to his |
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| DrDan
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Wed Aug-20-08 08:32 AM Response to Reply #9 |
| 27. well - at great risk of being flamed - I would |
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TwilightGardener
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Wed Aug-20-08 08:47 AM Response to Reply #27 |
| 33. Progressives might be "disappointed" that Obama didn't vote their |
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atreides1
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Wed Aug-20-08 08:55 AM Response to Reply #33 |
| 38. No, these "liberals" must be turning to McCain. |
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TwilightGardener
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Wed Aug-20-08 09:13 AM Response to Reply #38 |
| 47. Where are they going, then? |
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closeupready
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Wed Aug-20-08 10:49 AM Response to Reply #47 |
| 82. Maybe they've decided to stay home in protest, or write in Mickey Mouse. |
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| Lorien
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Wed Aug-20-08 11:08 AM Response to Reply #47 |
| 92. Home. n/t |
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ChiciB1
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Wed Aug-20-08 11:55 AM Response to Reply #38 |
| 123. I Consider Myself One Of Those "True Liberals" Who IS NOT Happy OR |
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| Psephos
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Wed Aug-20-08 09:24 AM Response to Reply #33 |
| 52. cats at the Humane society |
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| DrDan
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Wed Aug-20-08 09:27 AM Response to Reply #33 |
| 55. you can characterize them any way you wish |
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TwilightGardener
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Wed Aug-20-08 09:31 AM Response to Reply #55 |
| 59. Well, are they voting for McCain? And why? I'm just going off the article. |
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| DrDan
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Wed Aug-20-08 10:02 AM Response to Reply #59 |
| 73. if they go anywhere away from Obama the percentages will shift |
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TwilightGardener
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Wed Aug-20-08 10:09 AM Response to Reply #73 |
| 75. Well, that would tell me that liberals don't mind the fact that they'll |
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| DrDan
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Wed Aug-20-08 10:12 AM Response to Reply #75 |
| 76. mccain is doing things to hang on to his base |
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TwilightGardener
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Wed Aug-20-08 10:23 AM Response to Reply #76 |
| 77. The assumption that Obama needs to defy conventional wisdom by |
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| DrDan
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Wed Aug-20-08 01:09 PM Response to Reply #77 |
| 143. you could draw a parallel argument about the GOP |
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| Runcible Spoon
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Thu Aug-21-08 01:39 AM Response to Reply #143 |
| 162. thank you for being a voice of reason on this thread. |
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| DrDan
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Thu Aug-21-08 08:15 AM Response to Reply #162 |
| 167. absolutely! To the point of writing in |
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| enough already
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Wed Aug-20-08 12:03 PM Response to Reply #76 |
| 131. We have a winner n/t |
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| TooBigaTent
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Wed Aug-20-08 09:17 AM Response to Reply #9 |
| 49. The DLC wing of the party really likes selling out -- stupid fuckers. I would never vote for a puke |
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TwilightGardener
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Wed Aug-20-08 09:34 AM Response to Reply #49 |
| 62. Proving my point. |
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| Lorien
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Wed Aug-20-08 11:04 AM Response to Reply #62 |
| 88. No, you've got it backwards. The stupid fuckers are running the party |
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| Runcible Spoon
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Thu Aug-21-08 01:42 AM Response to Reply #62 |
| 164. you are easily one of the top 10 most vocal, most right-wing members on this board. |
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| Lorien
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Wed Aug-20-08 11:02 AM Response to Reply #9 |
| 86. No, he's losing them as likely voters. Many liberals I know are still on |
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| Runcible Spoon
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Thu Aug-21-08 01:41 AM Response to Reply #86 |
| 163. fuckin' A Lorien. |
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barbtries
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Wed Aug-20-08 11:39 AM Response to Reply #9 |
| 117. if obama loses liberals |
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Roland99
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Wed Aug-20-08 08:12 AM Response to Original message |
| 10. *cough*bullshit*cough* |
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JCMach1
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Wed Aug-20-08 08:15 AM Response to Reply #10 |
| 12. Even if this is an outlier, follow the trend lines on the polls |
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minnesota_liberal
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Wed Aug-20-08 08:15 AM Response to Original message |
| 13. Another BS Poll |
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| No Elephants
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Wed Aug-20-08 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
| 15. Keep donating and volunteering. We can do it. Obama is |
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JCMach1
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Wed Aug-20-08 08:20 AM Response to Original message |
| 17. From Politico.com- |
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OneBlueSky
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Wed Aug-20-08 08:21 AM Response to Original message |
| 18. beginning of the setup . . . |
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JCMach1
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Wed Aug-20-08 08:23 AM Response to Reply #18 |
| 21. The 'pugs are just getting warmed-up |
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| Captain Hilts
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Wed Aug-20-08 09:01 AM Response to Reply #18 |
| 41. There's no Pollster Conspiracy. Sorry. Zogby's actually a Dem. nt |
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| DuaneBidoux
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Wed Aug-20-08 10:03 AM Response to Reply #41 |
| 74. But he did call the election Kerry early in the evening if I remember 04 |
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| Lorien
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Wed Aug-20-08 10:54 AM Response to Reply #74 |
| 83. Like Gore, Kerry won that election but had it stolen |
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| DuaneBidoux
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Wed Aug-20-08 11:06 AM Response to Reply #83 |
| 89. I do not believe the 04 election was stolen. The margin was not small enough and unlike Florida |
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| Duncan
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Thu Aug-21-08 01:13 PM Response to Reply #89 |
| 174. What did you make of the CNN exit poll results being changed |
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Atman
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Wed Aug-20-08 08:23 AM Response to Original message |
| 20. About the polls...they're for the network's promotional benefit, nothing more. |
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JCMach1
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Wed Aug-20-08 08:25 AM Response to Reply #20 |
| 23. I don't think so, please see post #17... |
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| Duncan
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Wed Aug-20-08 08:40 AM Response to Reply #23 |
| 30. Politico.com? |
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JCMach1
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Wed Aug-20-08 08:53 AM Response to Reply #30 |
| 35. I have posted many time about that... |
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Odin2005
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Wed Aug-20-08 08:28 AM Response to Original message |
| 25. Probably nothing more then a meaningless statistical hiccup. n/t. |
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| Captain Hilts
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Wed Aug-20-08 09:02 AM Response to Reply #25 |
| 42. That's entirely possible. It's a snapshot. Everybody relax. |
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Brotherjohn
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Wed Aug-20-08 11:11 AM Response to Reply #25 |
| 97. Completely agree. Show me another month of polls like this and I'll worry. |
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Brotherjohn
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Wed Aug-20-08 11:26 AM Response to Reply #97 |
| 108. SELF DELETE. (nt) |
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| ryanmuegge
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Wed Aug-20-08 08:36 AM Response to Original message |
| 28. This has been a trend over the past month or so. It's foolish to dismiss it. |
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WCGreen
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Wed Aug-20-08 08:40 AM Response to Reply #28 |
| 29. I agree... |
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JCMach1
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Wed Aug-20-08 08:54 AM Response to Reply #28 |
| 36. Exactly, never 'misunderestimate' the idiocy of the American Electorate |
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| Nihil
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Wed Aug-20-08 09:23 AM Response to Reply #36 |
| 51. Yep ... |
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| still_one
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Wed Aug-20-08 10:01 AM Response to Reply #28 |
| 71. If I was to look at the beginning of the year I would ask how come mccain has been trending down? |
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| ryanmuegge
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Wed Aug-20-08 12:26 PM Response to Reply #71 |
| 135. True, but that doesn't matter, does it? It only matters how he compares with Obama. |
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| Duncan
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Wed Aug-20-08 08:44 AM Response to Original message |
| 31. BULLSHIT! |
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| Doug.Goodall
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Wed Aug-20-08 08:55 AM Response to Original message |
| 37. Since both Obama and McCain are the 'presumptive nominee', just what doe these polls mean? |
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Delphinus
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Wed Aug-20-08 09:08 AM Response to Original message |
| 44. I just don't, don't, don't |
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ejbr
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Wed Aug-20-08 09:11 AM Response to Original message |
| 46. This trend does not demostrate that McCain is a better candidate, |
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radfringe
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Wed Aug-20-08 09:13 AM Response to Original message |
| 48. means obama has to fight back and fight back hard |
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JCMach1
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Wed Aug-20-08 09:27 AM Response to Reply #48 |
| 54. I agree with most of what you said-- not just the 'high' road though |
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radfringe
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Wed Aug-20-08 09:57 AM Response to Reply #54 |
| 69. think you misunderstood |
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JCMach1
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Wed Aug-20-08 02:54 PM Response to Reply #69 |
| 150. :) |
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radfringe
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Wed Aug-20-08 03:41 PM Response to Reply #150 |
| 152. ;) |
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kiranon
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Wed Aug-20-08 11:18 AM Response to Reply #48 |
| 102. Needs to get tougher and point out McCain's shortcomings |
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radfringe
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Wed Aug-20-08 11:22 AM Response to Reply #102 |
| 107. when you are on the high road |
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Highway61
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Wed Aug-20-08 11:27 AM Response to Reply #48 |
| 111. Good stuff |
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| Maryland Liberal
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Wed Aug-20-08 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
| 50. One poll does not mean anything |
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JCMach1
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Wed Aug-20-08 09:29 AM Response to Reply #50 |
| 57. Not just one poll, but the trend does... |
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madrchsod
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Wed Aug-20-08 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
| 53. oh no it`s over..... |
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TwilightGardener
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Wed Aug-20-08 09:32 AM Response to Reply #53 |
| 60. Sarcasm? |
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madrchsod
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Wed Aug-20-08 11:31 AM Response to Reply #60 |
| 114. john makes alan keyes look and sound like a genuis |
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Virginia Dare
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Wed Aug-20-08 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
| 56. A stronger manager of the economy? |
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truebrit71
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Wed Aug-20-08 09:29 AM Response to Original message |
| 58. I call bullshit...70% of the country think we're on the wrong track, but McBush is the right guy... |
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barbtries
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Wed Aug-20-08 11:59 AM Response to Reply #58 |
| 128. thank you. |
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FatDave
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Wed Aug-20-08 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
| 61. It's really simple people. McCain's been attacking while Barack's been slacking. |
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JCMach1
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Wed Aug-20-08 09:37 AM Response to Reply #61 |
| 63. Converntion is going to be tough-- especially if things reinforce |
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| RaRa
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Wed Aug-20-08 10:30 AM Response to Reply #61 |
| 79. Absolutely! |
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NJCher
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Wed Aug-20-08 11:20 AM Response to Reply #61 |
| 103. maybe |
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FatDave
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Wed Aug-20-08 11:31 AM Response to Reply #103 |
| 113. I agree |
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JCMach1
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Wed Aug-20-08 01:21 PM Response to Reply #103 |
| 144. I agree about the vacation timing... However, politics is the art of the possible |
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| OwnedByFerrets
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Wed Aug-20-08 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
| 64. Whether correct or not, NEGATIVE CAMPAIGNING WORKS!! |
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| still_one
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Wed Aug-20-08 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
| 65. Gee, Quinnipiac has Obama up by +5. mccain has lost traction since the beginning of the year |
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harun
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Wed Aug-20-08 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
| 66. Expect more of these BS polls |
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| zeemike
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Wed Aug-20-08 09:53 AM Response to Original message |
| 68. The whole point of this is to get progressives to believe |
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| still_one
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Wed Aug-20-08 09:58 AM Response to Reply #68 |
| 70. BULL!!! NO WAY. There are more people affected negatively in the last 8 years |
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| zeemike
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Wed Aug-20-08 09:34 PM Response to Reply #70 |
| 155. I did not say they would not vote for Obama |
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| oasis
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Wed Aug-20-08 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
| 72. The more Condi and Bush piss off Russia, the higher McCain's numbers will climb. (n/t) |
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| scarface2004
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Wed Aug-20-08 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
| 78. looks like the repukes have taken over reuters |
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michreject
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Wed Aug-20-08 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
| 80. Do the pollsters sample between 9 and 5 |
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| 2KS2KHonda
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Wed Aug-20-08 10:58 AM Response to Reply #80 |
| 84. Unemployed, pre-school and retired. |
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Khaotic
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Wed Aug-20-08 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
| 81. Time to Clown McSame |
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TwilightGardener
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Wed Aug-20-08 12:23 PM Response to Reply #81 |
| 133. Love your post. I want to know why WE don't have a Zell Miller for |
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Khaotic
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Wed Aug-20-08 02:56 PM Response to Reply #133 |
| 151. I thought ... |
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marias23
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Wed Aug-20-08 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
| 87. GO NEGATIVE OR LOOSE |
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| Lorien
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Wed Aug-20-08 11:07 AM Response to Reply #87 |
| 90. Go Left or lose. I think that's what's really going on here |
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| MilesColtrane
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Wed Aug-20-08 11:14 AM Response to Reply #87 |
| 98. I have to disagree. |
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Khaotic
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Wed Aug-20-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #87 |
| 99. Their Gang's Turf |
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Lena inRI
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Wed Aug-20-08 11:59 AM Response to Reply #87 |
| 129. LOSE NOT LOOSE. . LEARN TO SPELL . DAMN IT! |
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| Dollface
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Wed Aug-20-08 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
| 91. Just goes to show, you can't fix stupid... |
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| Bake
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Wed Aug-20-08 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
| 94. This is what happens when you're totally absent for a week. |
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trumad
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Wed Aug-20-08 11:11 AM Response to Reply #94 |
| 96. Boo |
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LSK
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Wed Aug-20-08 11:17 AM Response to Reply #94 |
| 100. I agree it was the vacation, however its only a temporary bump in the road |
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| Bake
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Wed Aug-20-08 11:21 AM Response to Reply #100 |
| 105. I hope you're right. |
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YvonneCa
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Wed Aug-20-08 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
| 101. It's not the one poll, 'snapshot of time' that worries me. It's... | ![]() |
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| pilar007
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Wed Aug-20-08 09:45 PM Response to Reply #101 |
| 156. There you go... |
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| smoogatz
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Wed Aug-20-08 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
| 104. Obama needs to go for the throat. |
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Wed Aug-20-08 11:51 AM Response to Reply #104 |
| 121. you are SO RIGHT ON!! |
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TwilightGardener
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Wed Aug-20-08 12:27 PM Response to Reply #104 |
| 136. Better strong and wrong than wimpy and correct. |
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