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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 07:59 AM
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Pentagon questions charges in abuse report
Source: UPI

WASHINGTON, June 19 (UPI) -- A report charging terrorist suspects in U.S. military prisons were tortured by their captors is based on questionable information, a Pentagon spokesman says.

The U.S. Defense Department spokesman said the report by Physicians for Human Rights drew "sweeping conclusions based on dubious allegations" of former detainees who hadn't been in U.S. custody for years, The Washington Post reported Thursday.

Assessments of 11 men once held in U.S. detention facilities in Iraq, Afghanistan and Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, detailed scars and other injuries consistent with the detainees' reports of beatings, electric shocks, shackling and sexual humiliation, among other things, the group said. Examinations also indicated most had symptoms of psychological damage, including post-traumatic stress disorder.

"The quality of medical care we provide detainees is similar to that which our troops serving in the same locations receive," Pentagon spokesman Navy Cmdr. J.D. Gordon told the Post. "We have robust psychological and mental healthcare available to detainees."



Read more: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/06/19/Pentagon_questions_charges_in_abuse_report/UPI-55681213878912/
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 08:41 AM
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1. So allow access to current "detainees"
Yeah, the group only talked with people who hadn't been in military custody for years! Of course, nobody's allowed to see currently incarcerated persons, not even their legal counsel. And, while the Pentagon is all indignant about the report, claiming that it made "sweeping conclusions based on dubious allegations," it appears that they couldn't quite get around to specific denials of specific claims.

I wonder why?
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 08:44 AM
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2. I remember the "dubious allegations" against the Wehrmacht by former detainees.
Edited on Thu Jun-19-08 08:45 AM by tom_paine
I'll bet the Bushies STILL don't believe the testimony of those Middle-Eastern Terrorists, the Jews, about their German-Bushie-Run-Detention Centers, like Auschwitz.
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RedLetterRev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 09:09 AM
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3. Does Gordon not see
the mind-blistering irony in his statement

"The quality of medical care we provide detainees is similar to that which our troops serving in the same locations receive," Pentagon spokesman Navy Cmdr. J.D. Gordon told the Post. "We have robust psychological and mental healthcare available to detainees."


When we already have known about the rampant and untreated PTSD and ballooning suicide rate of our own people. We have evidence of systematic torture of "detainees". It ain't rocket science to put this equation together. Translation from Gordonese:

We give our detainees the same shitty treatment as we give our own troops
.

Fumducker. :banghead:
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 02:06 PM
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4. Pentagon questions charges in abuse report
Source: UPI

WASHINGTON, June 19 (UPI) -- A report charging terrorist suspects in U.S. military prisons were tortured by their captors is based on questionable information, a Pentagon spokesman says.

The U.S. Defense Department spokesman said the report by Physicians for Human Rights drew "sweeping conclusions based on dubious allegations" of former detainees who hadn't been in U.S. custody for years, The Washington Post reported Thursday.

Assessments of 11 men once held in U.S. detention facilities in Iraq, Afghanistan and Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, detailed scars and other injuries consistent with the detainees' reports of beatings, electric shocks, shackling and sexual humiliation, among other things, the group said. Examinations also indicated most had symptoms of psychological damage, including post-traumatic stress disorder.

"The quality of medical care we provide detainees is similar to that which our troops serving in the same locations receive," Pentagon spokesman Navy Cmdr. J.D. Gordon told the Post. "We have robust psychological and mental healthcare available to detainees."

Read more: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/06/19/Pentagon_questions_charges_in_abuse_report/UPI-55681213878912/
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 02:06 PM
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5. Reading UPI makes me want to go sell Bibles at the airport
So they have a new spokesman at the Pentagon? I guess Tillman and Pfc Lynch weren't available
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 02:06 PM
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6. oops! wrong reply.
""The quality of medical care we provide detainees is similar to that which our troops serving in the same locations receive," Pentagon spokesman Navy Cmdr. J.D. Gordon told the Post. "We have robust psychological and mental healthcare available to detainees.""

i wouldn't brag about that considering the way the defense department and va are treating returning vets with ptsd. i can't imagine that the medical care is that much better at gitmo.

ellen fl
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 02:06 PM
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7. What is "questionable"? Whatever the perpetrators question.
What is "dubious"? Whatever the guilty want the rest of us to doubt.
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