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leftrightwingnut Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 10:47 PM
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As Race Wanes, Talk of Obama-Clinton Ticket Grows
Source: New York Times

By PATRICK HEALY and JEFF ZELENY
Published: May 23, 2008

While Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton and her advisers insist that she is determined to win the Democratic nomination, friends of the couple say that former President Bill Clinton, for one, has begun privately contemplating a different outcome for her: As Senator Barack Obamas running mate.

The reports about Mr. Clintons musings surface as the Obama camp has quietly begun the process of searching for a partner on the Democratic ticket.

...

Friends of the former president say his musings have been more casual: He believes that an Obama-Clinton ticket could help unify the party, and he thinks she has earned a meeting with Mr. Obama to discuss the possibility.


Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/23/us/politics/23veep.ht...
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 10:49 PM
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1. Yeah, in Clinton's camp.
I hope that Obama doesn't have to go there.
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 10:49 PM
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2. Only from the losers. Make that LOOOSSSSEEEERRRSSS. You know, those that DID NOT WIN!
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 10:50 PM
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3. Yuk This campaign has made me so sick of the Clintons.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:07 AM
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22. This campaign has made me sick of the Democratic in-fighting.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:11 AM
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25. It's not DU in fighting.
From the low post numbers...it's from the party headquarters.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:08 PM
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38. I have to ask you... are you suggesting that the Democratic headquarters is supplying us with
"low post number" shills to torpedo the primary? Or is this being done by Republicans?

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Efilroft Sul Donating Member (827 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:44 PM
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46. I second that, Radio Lady. n/t
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 10:52 PM
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4. Too bad the big dawg is doing the talking. nt
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 10:54 PM
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5. THEY must have meant Clinton-obama ticket.
Oh, forgot. The NY Times doesn't recognize HRC exists.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 11:00 PM
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6. Boy the media is sure trying to push this one on us...imagine the
fun they would have...
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pbca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 11:00 PM
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7. It makes good filler for newspapers but the idea is dead
at least on the Obama side and amoung most of the Dem. leadership.
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Spouting Horn Donating Member (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:10 PM
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44. I agree with you
There is no way Obama will pick HRC as his running mate...he knows he would have to grow eyes in the back of his head if he did that.

He will though, have to make a sop to the hard core Hillary supporters...He will choose someone like Sebellius as his mate.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 11:05 PM
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8. If the Dems want to go from a probable loss in Novemebr to a sure loss
This would be the way to do it....

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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:19 AM
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27. The sure loss was inevitable when the corprat media's overlords decided that we
should have an "historic" election, thereby saddling us with the two least electable Democratic candidates. WTG! :argh:
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Just-plain-Kathy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 11:11 PM
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9. I sent a check to the Obama campaign, in the memo section I wrote, No Hillary 4 VP.
If he chooses Hillary, I want a refund. We need change, not Ms NAFTA.
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Bob Dobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 11:22 PM
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10. This is the only way Obama can lose.
Even he can't carry that much baggage over the finish line successfully.

It's like the stinking albatross of lieberman around Nobel Laureate Gore's neck that kept the 2000 race close enough for busholini to steal.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:09 AM
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24. Or win?
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raystorm7 Donating Member (944 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 11:36 PM
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11. Expect to see a lot more news like this pushing this idea from the Hillary camp. HELL NO for VP!
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:11 AM
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26. Low post numbers....don't believe the crap you guys are posting.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 11:40 PM
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12. Tiresome.


...the missing word from the headline,
dp
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 11:40 PM
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13. At this point I really don't give a dammm what
Bill Clinton thinks. She hasn't earned a spot on anything as far as I can see. Not after trashing Obama, the party over the FL and MI votes, not after cheating and keeping her name on the ballont in MI and on and on. I just wish they'd both go away.
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ladywnch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 11:46 PM
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14. I know I'm going to get flamed for this but
I'm wondering if this hasn't been her strategy for some time now......stir the pot, muddy the waters and make the atmosphere so toxic that Obama has to offer her the VP slot to have any hope of having a unified party for the GE.......and with the offer her acceptance would have conditions; namely that Bill have a position, maybe SOS or something. I have to believe there is a 'if you take one, you take both' I think she has known she wasn't going to get the nomination but this was a way to assure she and Bill both get back into the WH.

Go ahead......beat me up
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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 12:25 AM
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18. I think you're safe,
that's a popular theory.

My theory is about covering up for the last few administrations, which means it HAS to be her or mclame or nobody. With nobody being by far the worst choice.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 11:59 PM
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15. The Clintons are determined to sink us one way or the other.
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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 12:13 AM
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16. What she's earned from Obama
is a foot up the arse, but he's too classy to bother.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 12:24 AM
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17. Power hungry egomaniacs. Please keep her and her drama away from the ticket. (nt)
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ckramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:18 AM
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21. Agree. it would definitely damage the Obama presidency n/t
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robbibaba Donating Member (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:24 AM
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19. I know I'm paranoid, but....
I can't help thinking of Kennedy/Johnson. If HRC was made VP just how long would Obama get to live? There are plenty of ways of winning when you have no scruples.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:10 AM
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20. Wow. Check out some of the replies to this.
It's like a Free Republic lovefest.

No sense of party unity. No Change. No Hope. And the worst thing about it is that they'll all turn against President Obama the first time he does something they don't like -- provided we don't get President McCain instead.

--p!
Then they'll just blame it all on Hillary.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:08 AM
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23. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
donco Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:26 AM
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29. Whats with the hit on low post numbers?
Edited on Fri May-23-08 10:27 AM by donco
Ive been here a while, dont post much but have managed to be around for several fund risings and contributed to DU on all occasions. Instead of hammering on the post number, might be a better idea to check out the profile first; see how long the have been a member.
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tledford Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:25 PM
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42. Ayup. Been a member for three years but still in double digits.
Edited on Fri May-23-08 04:25 PM by tledford
I have other stuff to do, too, you know. ;-)
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:39 AM
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30. Yeah ... it's just a good job they didn't hide their profiles too as that's also a clue ...
... oh, wait ... hey mac2 ... where's your profile gone?
:P
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fjc Donating Member (700 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:20 AM
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28. This is tougher decision than many of you are making it out to be.
Edited on Fri May-23-08 10:20 AM by fjc
I share the Clinton weariness, and I was concerned from day one of this campaign season about Hillary's high negatives. And I'm ashamed, again, of Bill's someone erratic and beneath station behavior during this campaign. But to say she hasn't earned the number two spot is in my view just crazy talk, despite it's potential for disaster. It also has the opposite potential. But then, that is the only question, will it, as people supporting it say, unify the party. If I take the comments on this forum as any reasonable measure of that, I'd have to say no, it won't. The animosity of both sides towards each other is beginning to shape up as the traditionally strong inclination of this party to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. All of you people screaming at each other would apparently rather have your righteous outrage than have a Democrat in the White House. It's pathetic.
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lark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:56 PM
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36. DU posters are not your average person
or even your average Dem. Before the debacle of 2000, I'd never even considered going on a Democratic message board, but also would NEVER have considered voting Republican. It looks like posters here are so heavily favoring Obama, but that's also because the treatment of HRC supporters has been in general toxic so I'm sure a lot of them are gone, at least for now.

Not posting on this board, no problem. Being so pissed that they stay home and sit out the election - big problem for Democrats in Nov. I'm so hoping BHO and HRC can work out a compromise where's everyone's happy and can join together in ridding us of our national nightmare!
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:49 AM
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31. yeah... and look whose promoting this talk
sorry... perception really isn't everything.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:17 AM
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32. Detrimental to the Obama candidacy and Obama administration...
Edited on Fri May-23-08 11:19 AM by mitchum
the latter would be an unlikely occurrence with her on the ticket
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:13 PM
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34. When Reagan chose Bush (his runner-up), it worked well
It could work out. Hillary can deliver voters that Obama can't deliver.

Nobody thought Reagan would pick Bush, because at the time, Bush was a liberal republican (the religious right had not purged them all out at that time)who donated money to Planned Parenthood.

I personally think Edwards would be a good match for Obama, but Edwards said he isn't interested.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:19 PM
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35. But Reagan didn't choose bush...
much to Reagan's bewilderment, the gop party machine FORCED Reagan to accept bush as his running mate.
Hmmmm...just another one of the many chapters in the tale of the strange and curious rise of GHWB
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:12 PM
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39. However, the Republican party then went on to win the White House!
Edited on Fri May-23-08 03:12 PM by Radio_Lady
What part of WINNING don't you understand?

That happened with Kennedy/Johnson, too.

It is not entirely unheard of, but perhaps you need just a bit of brush-up on American history. (I did, too.) I talked to a couple of folks who remembered virtually all of the details.

Thank you for listening.

Cordially,

Radio Lady in Oregon

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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:32 PM
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41. But Reagan didn't need bush...
Reagan already had the knuckle-dragging conservative vote,the party stalwart vote, the western vote, and the southern vote sewn up. As Reagan pointed out to his corporate masters, bush 1 brought nothing crucial to the campaign.
Of course, this did put bush 1 a hearbeart away from the presidency when that curious assassination attempt happened...

Also, Johnson helped Kennedy win a signifiant geographical area that Clinton CANNOT deliver to Obama.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:43 PM
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43. Thanks. You don't think that Clinton could deliver? I don't agree ...
Edited on Fri May-23-08 04:47 PM by Radio_Lady
... so we'll just leave it at that.

Cordially,

Radio Lady in Oregon

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tuckessee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:54 AM
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33. Obama doesn't want (or need) a co-President. n/t
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lark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 01:58 PM
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37. True, but he does need all Dems onboard
if he is going to win against the slime machine, aka right wing media.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:13 PM
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40. Agreed.
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martymar64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:19 PM
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45. With her latest crack, she can kiss the VP spot goodbye
She'll be lucky to keep her Senate seat now.
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surfridum Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:42 PM
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47. Can you say...President McCain...?
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TheBullet Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:48 PM
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48. Obama would double his chances of assassination
I was actually going to post a joke in here that if Obama were to pick Hillary as his VP, he would double his chances of getting assassinated. Now, with today's comment by Hillary, it seems less of a joke and closer to a reality.

Part of me doesn't think that even Hillary would go that far, but geez, after she started explaining what she meant, she really did seem to be lost in a fantasy world for a moment.... as if some fantasy was running through her head.
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