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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 04:01 PM
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Carson Daly About to Defy Writers Strike
Source: Associated Press

NEW YORK (AP) — NBC's "Last Call with Carson Daly" is about to become the first late-night talk show to defy the writers strike and resume production.

Daly, who is not a member of the Writers Guild, will begin taping new episodes of his Burbank-based show this week for airing next week, an NBC spokesperson confirmed Tuesday.

The half-hour "Last Call" airs at 1:35 a.m. EST weeknights, but whether Daly's first new episode would air next Monday or Tuesday was initially unclear. No guests were disclosed.

A call for comment to the Writers Guild was not immediately returned Tuesday.




Read more: http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jTRkQWUgedRy7DRFMTtzmBL99b4gD8T66BJO0



:think: How do you boycott a show that no one watches?
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 04:01 PM
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1. Carson who?
?
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 12:16 PM
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50. Here's photos
Last time I saw him, on MTV, he looked like the image on the left, attractive and healthy (and not skinny). Apparently, he has lost a lot of weight. I have never seen his talk show, does he look like the image on the right?


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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 04:03 PM
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2. The fucking scab is a riverside co local
to Palm Spings or Palm Desert, so it figures
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Juneboarder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 04:16 PM
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4. Why do you feel the need
to bash Carson Daly and why does it matter if he's a local to the Coachella Valley? I think this whole strike is a little ridiculous and haven't paid much attention, but this is a bad time economically to be striking for more money. Everyone wants more money but it's not coming; it's washing down the drain with BushCo, our dollar and our beautiful country's reputation.
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 04:21 PM
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6. You think the strike is ridiculous??!!
I guess we should all just bend over and take it from the corporations, huh?

When is it a good time to stand up for what you believe in? It is never "convenient" to strike -- that is why a strike is effective.

This strike is not ridiculous. It is working people standing up for fair wages and demanding that they be paid for their work.

Yeah, you're right...you haven't paid much attention.
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Juneboarder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 11:10 AM
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42. Wow...
I said from the beginning that I haven't been paying too much attention and am sorry for asking questions. I guess I should just keep to myself rather than socializing and trying to find out why someone feels a certain way. I did mention that I feel it's a little silly to strike for money in the situation we are in as a country, but don't forget that I also mentioned I haven't been paying much attention. There are way more important things going on besides this strike, and I honestly haven't had the time or energy to look into it up until this point. But maybe because of all the negative responses to my questioning, I should just keep quiet. Is that the point of this forum... to bash anyone that questions what someone is saying? I sure hope not, because as this is a "free country", I should be able to speak and question things. If I couldn't question what's being said then wouldn't we be leaning more towards a fascist, dictatorship society?
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 12:25 PM
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51. Your "questions"
With all due respect, your questions are rhetorical, not intended to gain information, but are meant to persuade.

Those aren't really questions.
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Juneboarder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 03:56 PM
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58. How are the following questions rhetorical?
Why do you feel the need to bash Carson Daly and why does it matter if he's a local to the Coachella Valley?
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 06:01 PM
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62. Those are valid points, I agree.
Edited on Wed Nov-28-07 06:06 PM by quantessd
I don't know what that particular DUer has against Coachella Valley. Carson Daly is being "bashed" because he is not respecting the strike.

Mostly I was referring to post #42, which has a few rhetorical questions. Turning statements into questions, by switching the grammatical structure, and adding a question mark, does not change the intent of the statement. That's a rhetorical question. I use them, too. That doesn't mean they deserve an answer.

Anyway, no biggie. DU gets vicious. It's best not to take anything personally.

(Edit for spelling)
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 04:24 PM
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9. I'm glad you don't value someone else's struggle
That's great. I hope we can all give you the same level of support in the future.
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Juneboarder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 11:15 AM
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43. Who says I don't value someone else's struggle?
I value a struggle, but when it doesn't affect me then I have to weigh out what I want to focus on. There are way more important things going on in our society besides the strike and I just don't have time to follow it all. I am more concerned with our country at war and this joke of a president we have running our country. I am more concered about our country getting turned into a dictatorship where all of our rights have been taken from us. BTW, Teaser, I am not looking for your support. I would prefer that you support what you want because that's your freedom; the same freedom that I am so concerned we might lose as a country.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 04:25 PM
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10. cause I am Union, I support labor
and the desert cities are on the corner of freeper and bushbot. Puke admins always bring labor issues. Strike is ridiculous? Grow up, the MSM crying poor mouth ? get real
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 04:32 PM
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14. Right on , mitchtv...right on!
I wish people would pull their heads out of their asses and realize what this strike is all about.

I work in Hollywood (in a union), and I cannot believe how many young guys I work with support Bush and his cronies. I try to talk sense to them regarding unions and how the rethugs would love to destroy them all, but they don't want to hear it. Meanwhile, they have amazing benefits and are making great money.

I don't get it.

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Acadia Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 06:43 PM
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30. They have been indocternated by the RW radio and media, and
the bosses need to work hard to overcome that with their own propaganda. My cousin who has an M.S. degree in chemistry is the union rep in a chemical plant and he faces the same ignorant rednecks who don'[t know that they are stabbing themselves in the back when they support the really rich dudes who could give a damn if they starve to death.
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Acadia Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 06:40 PM
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29. If it were not for Unions, there would be no 40hr wk.no overtime and
child labor would still be here, and there would be no benefits. My dad was not in a union but I studied the Sociology of Work in College and we covered the entire labor movment in the USA, and it made me evern MORE pro union than I was already, because everyone in my family knew what the bad old days were like, and none of them said negative things about unions.
My nephew who is management now is 100% behind union workers. He knows how hard it is, because he worked his way through college and did not knock the ladder down after the climbed up.
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Juneboarder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 11:19 AM
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44. Sorry, I'm not MSM nor do I watch MSM.
And... I am real!! :) Sorry as well if you thought I was fake...
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 04:31 PM
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12. I'm going to put this down to sheer, bloody ignorance.
Go here and learn something: Why We Fight <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ55Ir2jCxk>
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Niche Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 04:36 PM
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16. perhaps if you worked and lived here in Hollywood -
you might know why our Unions are important to us... We work 12 hour standard days... because of our unions we have turn around guaranteed so no one falls asleep at the wheel on their way home. If one union breaks here we are all screwed. We stand in solidarity with the writers. And yes it is about money, it's also about workers' rights and... thank the unions of past for 8 hour days, meal breaks and over time pay, Workman's' comp., pension, insurance/medical benifits, etc.

Not so ridiculous to those of us here who's shows have closed down while Daly is crossing the line. Not at all ridiculous.
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Juneboarder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 11:26 AM
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46. I can definitely see where you are coming from...
and want to thank you for giving me the information rather than bashing me :) My only experience and knowledge with the strike is through my cousin. He drives trucks for the studios and is in a union, however with the strike the work is dwindling down. His concern is that he's not going to be making money as he used to while the strike is going on, and as a newlywed with a child on the way I can understand his concern as well. I should take a step back and not call the strike ridiculous, as that was not the right thing to say. I do apologize for my wording and didn't mean to upset anyone at all. But it sure did spark a debate and get people discussing it, which is helping me to understand the situation a lot more. Thank you.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 05:01 PM
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21. unions and strikes are about all workers rights..if one group takes a cut ,all will take a cut and
Edited on Tue Nov-27-07 05:04 PM by flyarm
eventually we will be a third rate nation..and that is exactly what the * crime family wants..it is important for all workers to stand for their values and their rights under our constitution..if not for the writers then some other union..people must stand for what is right and just for their industry.

some industries not only go on strike for themselves but they do it for safety reasons as well...

i know as a life long airline union employee i fought for safety reasons as well as for compensation..i will never ever fly a non union airline..nor will anyone in my family.

Many corporations through history treated their employees like slaves ..before Unions and before people organized...it is our right under our laws.

The writers have the right to protect their work.They have the right to protect what they created...and be compensated for that work. They have the right to strike for health care packages and pensions for their life long work, just like any other industry.


I support their strike.
fly

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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 05:05 PM
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22. does it matter that he's from Coachella Valley?
check out the OP's handle.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 05:15 PM
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25. The writers are angry because they've have been screwed out of money they earned by corporations.
It's not about demanding 'more' money...they want money that should be entitled TO them.
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Juneboarder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 11:29 AM
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47. I concur that the corporations should not be hoarding the money
and that the workers putting the shows together get paid their fair wages! I definitely am against the corporatization of America and when it comes to the corporations screwing the everyday citizens, then I do get upset with that.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 05:34 PM
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28. This strike is far from ridiculous. Please watch this and tell me what you think:
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Juneboarder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 11:36 AM
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48. Watched the videos...
I have to agree with the first video and think that the screen writers should get paid for their work played on the internet. I don't really understand the corporations arguments against paying them and it just seems fair to pay them for their work done. Don't the actors and actresses get paid everytime their shows/movies play? Why woudn't the screen writers be included since they helped orchestrate the production?
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 02:54 PM
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57. Why?
Because most corporations don't care about doing what is right. They usually only care about $$$ an nothing else. That's why we need unions, laws and regulations. Very few progressives are against people making money, even a insane amount of money. What we don't like is companies profits coming at the expense of people health and welfare.

If you want to see an excellent documentary about the "personality" of business, you should see Corporation http://imdb.com/title/tt0379225/

I appreciate your response.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 09:46 AM
Response to Reply #4
41. You prove that you know nothing about the situation..
by saying they're striking for more money. Educate yourself, then come back and comment.
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Juneboarder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 11:37 AM
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49. Am I not allowed to comment and get education? Sorry if I offended anyone :)
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:09 PM
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54. You're allowed to do anything you want within the rules..
it just helps with credibility when you know a little something about what you're commenting on.
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Juneboarder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 03:57 PM
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59. I guess we all go about things differently :)
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cstanleytech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 04:19 PM
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5. Well I have never heard of him before
but then I don't watch alot of late night television as for him being a scab if you disapprove then you don't have to watch him nor anything on NBC *shrug*
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 05:07 PM
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23. i won't talk to scabs and i certainly will not watch a scab!..thats my right!! eom
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 04:16 PM
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3. I wonder who the guests will be?
I'm not surprised that they are not announcing them ahead of time, 'cos they'll get some shit.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 04:35 PM
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15. Who do they normally get on the show?
Considering the time slot I doubt it's anyone too great. His old college buddies, his mom?
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 04:53 PM
Response to Reply #3
19. Chuck Norris, Bo Derek or Ron Silver...
one of the few "consrevative" players in LA...
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 04:23 PM
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7. Scab
.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 04:24 PM
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8. well the writing certainly couldnt get any worse
I watched it twice and it suuuucked!

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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 04:32 PM
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13. Hey, this could be a big opportunity for sucky unemployable writers! nt
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 04:53 PM
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20. Yes, it's a dreadful show
I never thought anything would make me appreciate Craig Kilborne, but Carson Daly did the trick!
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 04:30 PM
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11. Carson Daly is a worthless hack who makes Ryan Seacrest look talented in comparison. n/t
Edited on Tue Nov-27-07 04:31 PM by Mojambo
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 04:36 PM
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17. good thing I don't watch n/t
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 04:41 PM
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18. Oh, he writes his own material?
Edited on Tue Nov-27-07 04:42 PM by Cronus Protagonist
That's why he sucks so bad.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 05:10 PM
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24. Bloody scab!
I'm glad I've never watched the show. Now I never will.
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NoGOPZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 05:16 PM
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26. I didn't really need another reason not to watch his show
but now I have it.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 05:18 PM
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27. Scum-sucking dirt-licking rancid scab.
What a surprise. Never liked that stupid prick.
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Acadia Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 06:44 PM
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31. ditto.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 06:52 PM
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32. What a douche
But who is going to watch without Conan O'Brien's lead-in?
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ConservativeDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 07:17 PM
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33. He's not defying a strike if he's not part of it.
If he's not a member of the writers union and is writing for his own show, he isn't covered by the writer's strike.
Period.

Stand-up comedians doing their own material aren't covered either.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 08:56 PM
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34. that's what labor SOLIDARITY is all about-- we hang together...
Edited on Tue Nov-27-07 08:57 PM by mike_c
...or we hang alone. I do not cross picket lines, whether I'm on them or not, because I support my brothers and sisters working for better lives for their families, and I abhor scabs with all my heart.
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PittPoliSci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:50 AM
Response to Reply #34
39. i understand.
i'm a member of the APWU. i won't be watching carson daly any time soon...

not that i would have anyway, but still...
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 09:16 PM
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35. Doesn't He Play QB for the Cinn. Bengals?
When does he have time to do a TV show?
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Dark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 02:53 AM
Response to Reply #35
40. That's carson palmer you're thinking of. n/t
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 12:46 PM
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52. Isn't He A Golfer?
??
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NoGOPZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 12:51 PM
Response to Reply #52
53. No, I think he plays in a band with Emerson and Lake nt
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 02:07 PM
Response to Reply #52
56. see his photo toward the top of the thread
in post #50.
I first saw him in the mid-late 1990s on MTV's Total Request Live.
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Fierce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 10:48 PM
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36. What is a scab?
Edited on Tue Nov-27-07 10:49 PM by Fierce
After God had finished the rattlesnake, the toad, and the vampire, he had some awful substance left which he made a scab. A scab is a two-legged animal with a corkscrew soul, a water-logged brain, and a combination backbone made of jelly and glue. Where others have hearts, he carries a tumor of rotten principles.

When a scab comes down the street, men turn their backs, and angels weep in heaven, and the devil shuts the gates of hell to keep him out. No man has a right to scab as long as there is a pool of water deep enough to drown his body in, or a rope long enough to hang his carcass with. Judas Iscariot was a gentleman compared with a scab for betraying his Master, he had character enough to hang himself. A scab hasn't!!

Esau sold his birthright for a mess of pottage. Judas Iscariot sold his savior for thirty pieces of silver. Benedict Arnold his Country for a promise of a commission in the British army. The modern strikebreaker sells his birthright, his Country, his wife, his children, and his fellowmen for an unfulfilled promise from his employer, trust or corporation. Esau was a traitor to himself, Judas Iscariot was a traitor to his God, Benedict Arnold was a traitor to his Country.

A strikebreaker is a traitor to his God, his Country, his family, and his class!!

(Attributed to Jack London, but doesn't really sound like him...)

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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:09 AM
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37. the strikers are "talent",which leaves Carson Daly out
anorexic diva yes,talent,no

next stop Good Morning Bakersfield
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:12 AM
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38. how is this crap of a show still on air ?
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Bleacher Creature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 11:23 AM
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45. Compare this story to the one about David Letterman
Letterman has more talent and integrity than Carson Daly could ever dream of having.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071115/media_nm/letterman_dc_1

AP: "Letterman to pay employees through strike"

By Paul J. Gough
Wed Nov 14, 9:03 PM ET


NEW YORK (Hollywood Reporter) - Strike or not, employees of the "Late Show With David Letterman" and the "The Late Late Show With Craig Ferguson" will be paid through year's end.

Both are produced by Letterman's Worldwide Pants banner, which notified employees in New York and Los Angeles that they will be paid regardless of whether the shows return. It would make Worldwide Pants the first known company to guarantee its staff a paycheck during the writers strike.

It comes at a time when other shows like NBC's "The Tonight Show With Jay Leno" have told employees to expect to be idled as the strike continues through its second week. There were rumors, since denied, that "The Daily Show" host Jon Stewart had initially guaranteed a paycheck to his writers.

<SNIP>
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:56 PM
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55. I have to admit, I have mixed feelings on this...
On the one hand, I don't like to see anyone defy a strike. On the other hand, if you put a few shows on TV without good and experienced writers, I may become clear to both the networks and the viewers what the value of good writers is, and help the union's cause.

Having said this, Carson Daly's show was never known for it's good writing, and no one watches it anyway, so I doubt anyone will notice the difference. Take a top rated (scripted) show like CSI, Two and a Half Men, or Heroes, and put some shitty writers behind it, and the public will be clamoring for an end to the strike.
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 09:33 PM
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63. We already have that
>On the other hand, if you put a few shows on TV without good and experienced writers,<

It's called "reality TV". The networks think they can stuff the schedule with even more reality TV, and the writers will fold like a house of cards. We'll get more of it, and hopefully, viewers will start tuning out in large numbers because they just can't take it anymore.

I'm a writer. The WGA is more of a screenwriters and TV writers union, or I would join them. Their demands are paltry in comparison to the profits of studios. Writers should be paid for the rebroadcast of their work, both on TV and on the Web, period.

Julie
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 04:03 PM
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60. I wonder who's going to be on his show?
I'm sure SAG members will avoid Last Call like the plague.

Maybe Carson can appear on Ellen Degeneres' show, and she can appear on his show night after night.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 05:11 PM
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61. I'll continue not watching - this time purposefully
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