Schumer, Feinstein back Mukasey

[Newsjock]

Source: Baltimore Sun

Looks like Michael Mukasey will be the next Attorney General after all, many Democrats' misgivings about his unwillingness to declare waterboarding illegal notwithstanding.

A pair of key Senate Democrats, Diane Feinstein, of California, and Charles Schumer, of New York, announced this afternoon that they'll vote for Mukasey, giving him the votes he needs to win approval of the Judiciary Committee.

This can be looked at as a call made on the merits, but politically, the nods from Schumer and Feinstein also can be interpreted as meaning that Democrats still haven't figured out how to address issues like torture without appearing to be soft on national security.


Read more: http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2007/11/schumer_feinstein_back_mukasey.html

[opihimoimoi]

1. If they are THAT STUPID...they should be replaced by some REAL PUBs

Fuck um all....

Their brains got stolen or something???

[rhett o rick]

24. They are not stupid. Maybe spineless sacks of crap but they want to be on

the winning side when martial law is declared and the neocons stage their coup.

[opihimoimoi]

52. The Audacity...they went and bet on ECIL....and like they know better....WTF?

Truth prevails....don't they know that?

[AndyA]

2. Feinstein is just like a Republican in so many ways.

She thinks it's OK to have an Attorney General who will allow Bush to continue to rape the country.

And Southwick just hated gay people, so he'll be OK as well.

And then there's all that nasty money her husband made, which was likely a huge conflict of interest on Diane's part.

If we catch her cruising for sex in some airport ladies room, the circle will be complete...

:thumbsdown:

[BooScout]

3. Spineless sack of shits......

....the lot of them.

[opihimoimoi]

4. Hold on there...we have a few votes for NO

[BooScout]

10. ah yes.......but what the hell else have they done lately?

....very little in taking back the country. I am sick to death of most of the Democrats in Congress NOT producing a united front against Bush. It's time they put up or shut up. I stand by my statement that the lot of them are spineless sacks of shit...and I'll add that most of them have their thumbs stuck up their collective asses as well.

WTF don't they call Bush on his invocation of 'we're at war and national security is the end all beat all' speech????

Do you not think that if the Democrats of Congress stood together shoulder to shoulder and told the country that Bush is full of shit and that he has turned Americans into blithering pansies thinking some sort of attack is around every fucking corner that some of mainstream America might not finally wake up and realize they had been duped into this mess of an Administration?

Yes I sound harsh, but I am fed fucking up with politicians dillydallying around while the whole country goes down the proverbial toilet. The man and his entire administration has ruined the country and I don't really think at this point it can be fixed.

[opihimoimoi]

13. This Nation, this Planet is FUCKED...FUBAR its called

We humans don't deserve this world...we are a cancer, we fuck things up...we extinct other creatures and life forms...we use Earths stored energy in wasteful ways.

We love to KILL

We love to use fantasy

We love Delusion

We are not destined to venture forth into the Universe..we will kill off our opportunities long befoe it can be accomplished.

Not too many out there knows what is 7 x 9 much less what Pi is...we are a stupid peeps.

Our Leaders reflect the voters...if the Senators are stupid...its because of stupid voting.

Its too late, the DEMs cannot wake up...they have overdosed on some Pub Shit..drank some crap called cool aid...

Fuck it all....

[robinlynne]

30. If one of them changes his/her vote, win win. With those 2 voting for, we lose.

As alwasy, over and over again feinstein is the deciding republican vote.

[rucky]

21. Totally incorrect.

They're spineless sackS of shit.

[rhett o rick]

22. I am going with spineless sacks of shits. nm

[nashville_brook]

41. middle ground: spineless shit sacks!

[RamboLiberal]

5. Bush attorney general nominee gets key Democratic support

Source: CNN

Two Democratic senators said Friday they would vote for President Bush's nominee for attorney general, Michael Mukasey, hours after the chairman of the Judiciary Committee announced his opposition to the nominee.

Sens. Dianne Feinstein of California and Charles Schumer of New York announced they would support the retired federal judge from New York.

Feinstein and Schumer are members of the Senate Judiciary Committee, which is scheduled to vote on the Mukasey nomination Tuesday.

If all the Republican members of the committee also vote for Mukasey, which is expected, his nomination will go before the full Senate. A leading Democrat, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Wednesday Mukasey is likely to be confirmed if his nomination passes the Judiciary Committee.

Schumer had praised the nomination of Mukasey, a retired federal judge, as a consensus candidate when the president announced Mukasey as his choice to replace former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales. Gonzales gave up the post in September.



Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/11/02/leahy.mukasey/index.html

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WTF is up with these two? No wonder Dems are considered spineless!

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[movonne]

7. These are our torture dems...this mean the fully approve of torture..DLC

will show us how things are going to be...

[Lone_Star_Dem]

8. They're not spineless

They're our traitorous two.

[Gloria]

9. How charming can Bush be, Dianne???????

[AndyTiedye]

12. He Probably Played Her Some Charming Tapes of Her Phone Calls, Courtesy of the NSA

[mvd]

11. We will not get someone perfect from Bush. But..

the least we should expect is someone who won't put the President above the law and be evasive on torture. I disagree with their decisions.

[RufusEarl]

14. Well i emailed both Senators, to ask them to vote against Muksey.

That's ten minutes of wasted time i'll never get back but i feel better for doing it!

Peace!

[JNelson6563]

15. WTF?

:shrug: :grr:

[LibDemAlways]

16. I am ashamed to say that Feinstein

"represents" my state and that she keeps getting re-elected with little opposition from within the party or outside the party. People simply aren't paying attention to her shameful voting record.

[Cha]

32. Well, fuckchuck represents

mine.

[Gregorian]

36. Hey, Schwartenegger is governor.

And he was actually elected. This is not the California I was born in.

Twilight Zone. People have shit for brains now. Enough that it has brought the system down to new lows.

This was a day of great disgust for me. Just to see the sea of idiots in their cars is enough to make me wonder what is going on. I'm sickened by it all.

Sorry. I know that's going off on my own tangent. Sort of.

[LibDemAlways]

54. When I think about Ahnold sitting in Sacramento it makes

me sick, too. Then I think that's the same office Reagan occupied 40 years ago, and realize that Californians are easily buffaloed by glib actors. (Of course Reagan was successful on a national level, too, so Americans in general are pretty easily sold snake oil.)

On another thread I commented about a research paper my 9th grader has to write about the future. I suggested she write about the very real threat to American Democracy we're facing now, and her not-so-bright teacher told her she has to stick to mainstream, read "corporate," sources for her information. The woman isn't smart enough to realize that the "mainstream" media is a huge part of the aforementioned threat. We are, indeed, down the rabbit hole.

[Gregorian]

57. Thanks! That's more helpful than you may realize.

I still get angry thinking about how my dad voted for Reagan. He himself can't believe it. But your post is very helpful to me. It's not like we've suddenly changed into idiots. Although that may be true. Hmm. I'm really not awake this morning. So this is like typing through blurriness.

Today I am very discouraged. I sit here waiting on a seller's response to an offer I made on their land. And as I sit here wondering what life will yield, I can't help but think about how unhappy I am by America in general. As if some place to sit my body down will make a difference. Hmm. This isn't what you needed to hear. But it's part of the whole equation. I'm not happy here. No matter if I have the 100 acres with an ocean view or not. If I have neighbors who are not aware, it brings the whole experience down a level. We're a group of very unsophisticated people. And I'm talking about people like my dad. He was integral in the development of the personal computer back in the early days. And yet, Reagan with his phony humility convinced people he was something other than what he was. And the same thing is happening with the environment. People are still asleep. This is why I was furious when I saw this clown Swarzwhatever acting like a child on tv. "Everything is happy!", while the houses were still burning. An ignorant fool. One who was being sued by Cruz Bustamonte for illegal activity. Anyways. This should teach me not to reply when I feel like I have a head full of lead.

I want an intelligent country. Not just engineers. Not just journalists. People who are well rounded. People who care about others. That last one is probably the biggest one. It means we stop driving and start riding bikes. Yes. Believe it or not, that is what I said. It sounds bizarre to most people.

So it's both good and bad that we haven't changed in some ways. I guess I'm pessimistic. I think we should have made real progress, given where we came from. The Summer of Love just vaporized into suits and ties and Lexus cars.

Sorry. I really think I'm talking to myself, and not replying. It's probably considered rude. But I had to get this out. I feel pretty hopeless. When you've got nothing, you have everything to look forward to. When you've got everything, you realize that there really is nothing left. And that's kind of where I am. Wanting people to stop looking for something, and start doing what is right.

Sheesh. I guess it's time to go wake up. :)

[maryallen]

48. Makes you wonder about our "elections."

[FREEWILL56]

17. Move over Benedict Arnold as you've got much competition

mostly from republicons, but these 2 dems are to be included. Could somebody mail them some towels to wipe off that republicon shit from their heads. Amazing they stay alive being up their asses.

[spotbird]

18. Friday news dump.

They are such cowards.

[pattmarty]

20. I knew Feinstein was a Lieberman clone, and I always had my doubts about Schumer.

[rhett o rick]

23. What's worse than a stinking republican?? A Democrat that kisses Repub ass.

Schumer and Feinstein need to turn in their D.
Sell-out traitors.

[chimpymustgo]

27. A Democrat with an AIPAC/PNAC agenda. That's what's going on here.

Who is representing US?

[BlueManDude]

25. ...but they feel bad about it.

[mulsh]

26. feinstein is a real bottom feeder

I've dealt with her in her non-public life off and on for over 20 years and she's a real low life. She's an ill mannered little pseudo princess. when she younger she was good looking so she got a pass from most people.I think that's where she gets her delusions of greatness. her husband's money hasn't had all that much of an effect on her personality. I don't vote for Di Fi ever.

[rhett o rick]

28. But the California Democratic Party machine will back her all the way. You can't

replace an incumbent in your own party.

[MarinCoUSA]

29. LIVID! LIVID! LIVID! DiFi is such a hack

n/t

[Gregorian]

31. That's obscene!

I'm utterly disgusted with these goons.

You do not represent us, you clowns! I'm sorry, unless they are absolutely certain that the runner up for AG is someone from Hades, I cannot see how they could vote yes for someone who can't even decide is waterboarding is torture or not.

Edit- And I though Schumer had a brain.

[mikelgb]

33. Pat seriously needs to go up to them and say:

"Chuck, Di for the good of humanity please do not vote this man out of this committee."

[JerseygirlCT]

35. Pat and Harry Reid

This is a perfect situation for some serious arm-twisting.

Taking a loud stand on this as a stand against torture... it's long past time WE started taking charge of framing this whole big issue, and not allowing the GOP to dictate terms.

Terribly disappointing news from Schumer and Feinstein.

[cali]

45. He has.

Spoke to someone I know this afternoon who used to be a long time aid to Leahy, and he'd been in touch with people in his office.

[Joanne98]

34. Di Fi strikes again! She just hates it when Bush is losing!

I know we can't get rid of her right now but we should at least throw her off the important committees.

[opihimoimoi]

37. Schumer/Di Fi must have STAFF that come here for feed back...whad dey gonna tell dere bosses??

Da Peeps are PISSED and not gonna take it anymore....I wonder if dey got the balls to tell Chuckie dat?....

[spotbird]

40. They really, truly, honestly,

don't give a flying fuck what we think.

[opihimoimoi]

42. I have to admit,,,,you are right.....they don't...how arrogant is that??? Damnnn....

[spotbird]

44. They will sleep well tonight nt

[Gregorian]

38. WE TORTURE PEOPLE NOW.

And I'm more pissed off than I've been in a long long time.

This is more than a reflection on Congress. This is a reflection on the apathy of the American idiots. Nobody gives a shit if some poor soul is shipped off to a dark dungeon. I do. And I'm fucking angry about this.

[deacon]

39. Diane "rubber stamp" Feinstein and Pro Torture Chuck. n/t

[Terry_M]

43. I think we need bumper stickers with those words

to get ready for the democratic primary whenever these 2 are up for reelection.

[unkachuck]

46. figures....

....the shell-game continues....

[Been Fishing]

47. Recall Diane Feinstein

The people of California re-elected Feinstein, but she has once again disappointed us. How many times are we going to allow this representative to oppose the people and support the Bush administration?

I've had enough. What must we do to recall this misrepresention of the will of the people?

[DumpFeinstein]

50. Dump Feinstein

No more time for fishing.

I've been searching the internet for a site working to dump
our Democratic(R) Senator from California.  No joy.  It looks
like you and I may have to start one.

[IndianaGreen]

61. As long as you vote for the Democratic incumbent, regardless of his/her record

you will get more than your share of DiFis, Zell Millers, and Joe Liebermans.

The fault lies within us!

[spotbird]

49. They don't want my vote, and they

will be appropriately reciprocated. There new constituency is the brain dead middle. Fine, I must accept it, it is a fact.

What happens next for the Democrats in the Democratic Party?


Please advise.

[harpboy_ak]

51. Time to start a Real Democratic Party

Maybe we should call it the Working People's Party, to make sure that it doesn't include pro-corporate types.

These Dems get elected, get to DC & catch Beltway Disease. Suck up to lobbyists, forget the people, and screw the Constitution.

Fortunately, I have a calling plan where I never have a chance to use up the minutes, so I can leave messages on Schumer & DiFi's voice mail before their offices open.

WHERE IS THE NEW WELLSTONE?

[Boo Boo]

53. You mean Chuck "A vote against Bolton is a vote against Israel" Schumer?

What a big friggin' surprise.

Not. :banghead:

[Telly Savalas]

55. It's good to see them overcome the petty partisan bickering and support the president.

(Just kidding.) :hide:

[rhett o rick]

56. It is imperative for the Democratic Party to figure out how to get bastard

Democrats like Schumer and DiFi out of the party. The Party will stick with them because they are incumbents and guaranteed reelection.
To survive as a free nation the Party needs to find replacements for the turn-coats like Lieberman (to late) and "the torture two".

The problem is that when the voters go to the ballots in Calif and NY they will find Torture Chuck and Water-board Diane their only democratic choices. The Party needs to figure out a strategy to replace renegade members.

[rhett o rick]

58. I will not give a dime to any organization that may support the Torture Two, water-board Diane

and Torture Chuck.

[ryanmuegge]

59. No surprise. Two of the biggest punk ass sellouts in the party siding with the Republicans.

Is anyone shocked by this? I'm not.

After Greenspan quit, Schumer was the one going around, "oh we've GOT to bring in a guy that continues the same monetary policies as Greenspan," or something really similar. I'm not surprised that the same guy who said that supports a guy who clearly thinks torture is cool.

[bhikkhu]

60. Torturecrats. An appropriate name

and the same goes for any other of the grand party who votes for Mukasey, or diplomatically remains silent.

[Ignoramus]

62. feinstein's statement

I know this is a little late, but I'm about to call Feinstein's office to ask her not to support Mukasey. What do you think of her statement here:

Statement 'o Feinstein

I think about this what I think about the democrats in general. They have that can't do spirit. Trying is better than not trying at all. We're compromising backward into fascism.

[EFerrari]

63. Her site is down. That's how many people she's ignoring..n/t