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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 03:34 PM
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S.C. Dems reject Colbert candidacy
Source: Politico

Stephen Colbert’s satirical run for the presidency has run into its first roadblock — his bid to be on the ballot in the South Carolina Democratic presidential primary was rejected on Thursday.

The party’s executive council voted 14-3 to refuse Colbert’s application for a spot on the ballot.

“The general sense of the council was that he wasn’t a serious candidate and that was why he wasn’t selected to be on the ballot,” said Joe Werner, the party’s director. “There was discussion — I wouldn’t call it a heated debate — but there was discussion about it.”

There is no appeal process (...snip...)

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1107/6674.html




Let's see what Colbert has to say...
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 03:38 PM
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1. It's because Democrats actually have standards. Unlike the Republickers...
Edited on Thu Nov-01-07 03:39 PM by IanDB1


But damn, I wish Stephen could stay in the race for a while longer.


By the way...

Did I mention that Doritos are delicious?

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Zywiec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 03:39 PM
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2. I hope he runs as an Independent. n/t
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 03:47 PM
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3. Me too!
And I want him to debate Goldwater/Miller '08.
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Tunkamerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 03:49 PM
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4. Why?
I mean it's funny and all, but when all is said and done he would only be taking votes away from the democratic candidate.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 04:07 PM
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5. Could this possibly be because he was polling at 12% and could totally skew things?
His rebuttal will more than likely make "his character" even more satirically RW.

Should be entertaining though.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 04:14 PM
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6. "wasn’t selected to be on the ballot... There is no appeal process."
Not sure I'm reading this right, but it sounds like that even if he pays the fee OR submits the appropriate number of valid signatures on a petition, an "executive council" can keep him off of the ballot.

If so, that's disturbing thought.

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MarkInLA Donating Member (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 04:24 PM
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7. absolutely
It IS disturbing. This is another example of how UNdemocratic our supposed democracy can be. What a sham.
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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 04:33 PM
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9. It's a Democratic primary, a party function. n/t
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 04:58 PM
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13. "a party function...."
That's also a disturbing thought.
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Kemet Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 04:39 PM
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11. Exactly
That's why i think Colbert's candidacy is a good thing; it can point out details in the whole process that can be very informative for everyone. His response about the legality of his campaign finances was quite interesting.
He obviously won't go past the primaries but meanwhile we can see the presidential campaign and american democracy under a new light.
It is possible to laugh and learn at the same time.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 05:31 PM
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14. the discrepancy between the filing fees for the two parties was also very interesting

At the very least, it should get people wondering about what's involved in running for public office. And given that there are jurisdictions where it's very difficult to get anyone to challenge incumbents, that's quite a good thing.
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caraher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 06:02 PM
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15. That's right, he can do good by exposing some of the insanities
I also do wonder, though... why are there primary elections at all, when the result of a primary is to select a party's candidate? I mean, it is a good idea to gives voters a chance to consider an array of publicly-declared candidates, which is what a good primary does. (Not the the current presidential primary system is a good one; but I digress!) If it's a party function why don't parties organize and pay for their own selection process? Why should primary elections be administered by the government? I've never understood that from a philosophical perspective. (From a less lofty point of view, I think it's simple: the two-party system can use the government to subsidize their operations, so because the two parties can do this, they do.)
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 08:12 PM
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17. I enjoy his campaign being sponsored by Doritos
At least he's honest about corporate interests.
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Progressive Friend Donating Member (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 04:28 PM
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8. Good. The party has finally done something right.
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2 Much Tribulation Donating Member (522 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 04:35 PM
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10. To SC Dems credit, they did approve Sen. Gravel who polled less than Colbert...
Edited on Thu Nov-01-07 04:36 PM by 2 Much Tribulation
As they most assuredly should (Gravel is a good voice in the debate and takes election reform seriously and democracy seriously)

Standards for undemocratic ballot exclusion decision applied in this case (it's "undemocratic" whether justified or not, because it denies voter choice): whether they considered Colbert to be a bona fide Democrat who is nationally viable and has spent time campaigning in the state.

also approved were Clinton, Obama, Dodd, Biden, Edwards, Kucinich and Richardson.

Colbert could run as an indep. in the general, if he gets 10,000 signatures.

on edit: Decision saves Dems $20,000 filing fee per candidate (undemocratic SC law creating bad incentive) and Colbert did campaign in the state so it would seem the decision is based on "viability" nationally...
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 04:49 PM
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12. The SC Democratic Party will be put on notice tonight. guaranteed!
Maybe they're scared, he really will destroy the state of Jawja if elected!
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 07:20 PM
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16. PLEASE read this from Boehlert at Media Matters re. Colbert. I oppose fooling with this election.
"Did you notice the contrasting media responses to comedian Stephen Colbert's announcement that he plans to get his factually-challenged TV namesake on both the Democratic and Republican ballots for the South Carolina presidential primary? The mainstream Beltway press could barely contain its glee as it cheered the stunt on, lavishing all sorts of media attention on Colbert, and basking in the entertainment industry glow that his act brought to the White House campaign trail.

By contrast, it was mostly left to non-traditional online outlets to strike a skeptical chord; to make the grown-up observation that perhaps this wasn't the best idea. Over at the Huffington Post, Rachel Sklar, a major-league Colbert fan (as am I), wrote that the comedian's candidacy comes at the wrong time....And the media website Gawker made a similar point, although with a bit more snark:

'Now, we don't want to sound all imperious and sh*t, and we get the idea, add a little levity to the race, distract the cranky reporters, take everyone down a peg or two. It's good clean fun. But there's a $46 billion war on, we hear. And! Wildfires! Drought!...'

Both feared that Colbert would be an unnecessary distraction. Agreed. But the Colbert candidacy becomes a distraction only if the press allows it to. And the sad fact is the press already has allowed it to, because the press literally drives itself to distraction on the campaign trail. That's not an unfortunate side effect of the process. That's the goal....

The press already seems to do everything it can to avoid covering campaign substance. Instead, it pursues trivia such as haircuts, and laughs, and cleavage, and parking tickets, and head movements, and marital sleeping habits, and chiseled good looks, and cats, and accents. It's clear that the allure of a saccharine story like Colbert's running gag is simply too tempting.

That's because the press has decided to cover presidential candidates as celebrities, as personalities. This media phenomenon became enshrined during the 2000 contest, when the press announced that presidential campaigns were no longer about how candidates might function as presidents; what they might actually do as commander in chief. Instead, campaigns were about personalities -- which candidate was fun to be around and which one was authentic....

The Colbert allure also stems from the fact that too many journalists see themselves as being part of the entertainment business, not in the information business. They relate to Colbert and they want to be part of his yuk-yuk world. They want to blur the lines between news and infotainment. And they want to show everyone that they get the joke.

Why else would NBC's venerable Meet the Press invite Colbert on for an awkward 15-minute interview?...ABC's Nightline found time to cover the Colbert candidacy. Yet Nightline has not found time during the last six weeks to cover the war from Iraq. I'm just sayin'....

...sometimes I worry that journalists think voters take elections as un-seriously as the journalists themselves do....In fact, when one of Colbert's staffers contacted the owner of a South Carolina beauty salon, which had been featured in the press as being a hotbed of local political discussion, and asked if Colbert could visit the salon in advance of the primary, the owner was emphatic: No. 'This is a serious issue for us,' she told the producer....

The (New York)Times blog urged Colbert to keep his campaign going 'for the sheer fun of it.' It's true, the press loves to have fun on the campaign trail. As one Chicago Tribune reporter assured CNN, 'Everybody is going to cover Stephen Colbert to a certain extent, because it's going to be fun.'

But what about news consumers? After another writer at The Atlantic dissected the possible electoral implications of the Colbert run..., one online commenter beseeched:

'Seriously. Please stop. Please tell your friends in the (mainstream media) to stop.'"

http://mediamatters.org/columns/200710300001?f=h_column
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Progressive Friend Donating Member (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 08:44 PM
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18. Excellent post!
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