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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 07:06 PM
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Iraq War Resisters to Get Boost from Veterans Group
Source: OneWorld US

Iraq War Resisters to Get Boost from Veterans Group
Aaron Glantz, OneWorld US
Mon Aug 20, 3:50 PM ET

SAINT LOUIS, Aug 20 (OneWorld) - Members of a leading Iraq war veterans' organization voted this weekend to launch a campaign encouraging U.S. troops to refuse to fight.

The decision was made at the group's annual membership meeting, held this weekend in Saint Louis, Missouri alongside the annual convention of the Veterans for Peace organization.

"Iraq Veterans Against the War (IVAW) decided to make support of war resisters a major part of what we do," said Garrett Rappenhagen, a former U.S. Army sniper who served in Iraq from February 2004 to February 2005.

"There's a misconception that they're cowards," Rappenhagen said. "Most war resisters have already gone on a tour in Iraq. They've seen the war firsthand and have come to the conclusion that it's morally wrong. This is something we all should support. So to break that timidness of how we view war resisters in America, IVAW decided to embrace them."






Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/oneworld/20070820/wl_oneworld/45361524271187643018
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 05:59 AM
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1. K&R
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 07:00 AM
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2. "New military tactics in Iraq are working...."
Clinton, McCain split on Iraq pullout

KANSAS CITY, Mo. - New military tactics in Iraq are working but the best way to honor U.S. soldiers is "by beginning to bring them home," Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton told war veterans Monday.

Clinton, seeking the Democratic nomination for president, praised the work that soldiers have done in Iraq but described the government there as "on vacation," leaving American troops in the middle of a sectarian war.

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Clinton and McCain spoke to hundreds of members of the VFW, which is holding its annual convention in Kansas City. On Tuesday, Democratic candidate Barack Obama and former GOP Sen. Fred Thompson are to speak. President Bush arrives Wednesday.

The hall where the candidates spoke can seat 6,000 people, and both Clinton and McCain drew about half that for their late-morning speeches. The crowd was mostly friendly to Clinton and offered polite applause throughout her speech. McCain, a former Vietnam War prisoner of war, received a warmer reception — and louder applause during his remarks.

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Clinton said she wanted to restore America's image abroad.

"People have to root for America," she said. "They have to want to be on our side."



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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070821/ap_on_el_pr/candidates_iraq_6

here's to the new boss,


same as the old boss
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 08:48 AM
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3. What?? New military tactics in Iraq R a workin'??
Edited on Tue Aug-21-07 09:04 AM by Amonester
Lies, lies, and more lies (for Big Oil's CEOs OBSCENE Retirement Plans and bonusses). :puke:


From: http://icasualties.org/oif/

08/21/07 Xinhua: Roadside bomb kills 2, mortar barrage hits Green Zone
At least two people were killed and four others injured in a roadside bomb explosion near minibus in eastern Baghdad on Tuesday, while mortar rounds struck the U.S.- controlled Green Zone, an Interior Ministry source said.

08/21/07 AP: Denials in Iraq Governor's Assassination
Muqtada al-Sadr's office on Tuesday condemned the assassinations of two southern provincial governors as the radical Shiite cleric distanced himself from the killings, seen as part of a brutal contest among rival Shiite militias for control...

08/21/07 MCT: Smell of death permeates ruined Yazidis villages
The pungent smell of the dead hangs low in this village, and not even the colorful headdresses the men have wrapped across their faces can keep it out...The toll of the wounded stands at 600. Half of those are in serious condition, and many aren't...

08/21/07 Reuters: Gunmen kidnapp deputy minister of science and technology
Gunmen kidnapped Sameer al-Aatar, deputy minister of science and technology, on Monday in Aarasat al-Hindiya district in southern Baghdad, police said. Al-Aatar is a member of the secular Iraqi National List headed by former Prime Minister Iyad Allawi.

08/21/07 Reuters: Iraqi army kills 4 insurgents, detains 100 suspected insurgents
The Iraqi army killed four insurgents and detained 100 suspected insurgents during the last 24 hours in different parts of Iraq, the Defence Ministry said.

08/21/07 Reuters: Leaflets said to warn of Iran move into north Iraq
Kurdish authorities in northeastern Iraq said on Tuesday they were investigating the authenticity of leaflets warning villagers to evacuate ahead of an Iranian military offensive against Kurdish rebels.

08/20/07 MCT: 12 bodies found in Baghdad
Police found (12) dead bodies in the following neighborhoods in Baghdad: (9) were found in west Baghdad (Karkh bank); 2 in Saidiyah, 2 in Amil , 2 in Bayaa ,1 in Mansour , 1 in Ila’am and 1 in Jihad. While (3) were found in east Baghdad (Risafa bank)...

08/20/07 AP: Explosives Destroyed in Iraq
A land mine survey in Iraq has led to the destruction of hundreds of thousands of explosives left behind from past conflicts, the State Department said Monday.

08/20/07 AP: Two Americans charged with 2004 Iraq killings
Two Americans who served as Marines in Fallujah, Iraq, in 2004 face charges of killing three men detained in the search of a home in which weapons were found, US officials said.

08/20/07 DoD Identifies Army Casualties (part 2)
Spc. Kamisha J. Block, 20, of Vidor, Texas...assigned to the 401st Military Police Company, 720th Military Police Battalion, 89th Military Police Brigade, Fort Hood...died in Baghdad...Aug. 16 of injuries suffered from a non-combat related incident

08/20/07 DoD Identifies Army Casualties (part 1)
Staff Sgt. Paul B. Norris, 30, of Cullman, Ala....assigned to the 401st Military Police Company, 720th Military Police Battalion, 89th Military Police Brigade, Fort Hood...died in Balad...Aug. 16 of injuries suffered from a non-combat related incident

08/20/07 DoD Identifies Army Casualty
Capt. Michael S. Fielder, 35, of Holly Springs, N.C., died Aug. 19 in Baghdad, Iraq, of injuries suffered from a non-combat related incident. He was assigned to the 248th Medical Detachment, Headquarters and Headquarters Company...

08/20/07 Reuters: Roadside bomb wounds 5 in southern Baghdad
At least five people were wounded when two roadside bombs detonated in the Zaafaraniya district in southern Baghdad, police said.

08/20/07 Reuters: U.S forces kill 3 suspected insurgents, detain 28 others
U.S forces killed three suspected insurgents and detained 28 others during operations around Iraq on Sunday and Monday, the U.S military said.

08/20/07 DoD Identifies Army Casualty
1st Lt. Jonathan W. Edds, 24, of White Pigeon, Mich., died Aug. 17 in Baghdad, Iraq, of wounds suffered when insurgents attacked his vehicle using an improvised explosive device and small arms fire. He was assigned to the 2nd Battalion...

08/20/07 KUNA: Five killed in car bomb in Iraq's Sadr city
Five people were killed in a car bomb attack in Al-Sadr city in eastern Baghdad on Monday, police said. A booby-trapped car parking on the side of the road was detonated killing five people and injured 20 others, a police source told KUNA.

08/20/07 AP: 2 Charges Against Army Officer Dropped
A military judge on Monday dismissed two of the most serious charges against the only officer charged with abusing detainees at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison after an investigator acknowledged he failed to read the defendant his rights.

08/20/07 AP: US Military Struggles to `defeat' IEDs
In the May-July period this year, the number of U.S. military deaths from IEDs soared to 203, accounting for 66 percent of all U.S. fatalities, according to the authoritative Web site icasualties.org, which tracks military casualties in Iraq.

08/20/07 MNF: MNC-I Soldier dies of non-battle related cause
An MNC-I Soldier died of non-battle related causes August 19 in Baghdad. An investigation into the cause of death is under way.

08/20/07 DoD Identifies Army Casualties (part 2)
Spc. Zandra T. Walker, 28, of Greenville, S.C...assigned to 4th Battalion, 227th Aviation Regiment, 1st Aviation Cavalry Brigade, 1st Cavalry Division, Fort Hood, Texas...died Aug. 15 in Taji, Iraq, when the enemy attacked using indirect fire.

08/20/07 DoD Identifies Army Casualties (part 1)
Sgt. Princess C. Samuels, 22, of Mitchellville, Md....assigned to Headquarters and Headquarters Troop, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 1st Cavalry Division, Fort Hood, Texas... died Aug. 15 in Taji, Iraq, when the enemy attacked using indirect fire.

08/20/07 Sapa-AFP: Shi'ite rifts deepen
Violence between rival Shi'ite militias is now rife in Iraq's second city, Basra, where British troops deployed there since the invasion are preparing to withdraw from their last base in the city and re-deploy to a desert airbase.

08/20/07 AP: Roadside Bomb Kills Iraqi Governor
A roadside bomb killed the governor of the southern Muthanna province on Monday, police said, the second assassination of a top provincial official in just over a week. The blast struck the convoy carrying Mohammed Ali al-Hassani at about 9 a.m...

08/20/07 dailypress: Army lacking fresh troops for Iraq
Sapped by nearly six years of war, the Army has nearly exhausted its fighting force and its options if the Bush administration decides to extend the Iraq buildup beyond next spring.

08/20/07 Reuters: U.S. media curtail Iraq war coverag
U.S. media reporting of the war in Iraq fell sharply in the second quarter of 2007, largely due to a drop in coverage of the Washington-based policy debate, a study released Monday said.

08/20/07 Reuters: Five Iraqi sodiers killed in Taji
At least five Iraqi soldiers were killed when a roadside bomb hit their armoured vehicle in Taji, 20 km (12 miles) north of Baghdad, on Sunday, an Iraqi army source said.

08/20/07 Reuters: Gunmen kill civil servant in Hawija
Gunmen killed a civil servant in Hawija, 70 km (40 miles) southwest of Kirkuk, police said.

08/20/07 Reuters: Bodies of policemen found in Mosul, 2 policemen wounded by IED
The bodies of two policemen with gunshot wounds to the head were found in different areas parts of Mosul, 390 km (240 miles) north of Baghdad, police said...Two policemen were seriously wounded by a roadside bomb in central Mosul, police said.

08/20/07 Reuters; U.S. forces kill 8 gunmen, capture cell leader
U.S forces killed eight gunmen and captured a cell leader and a weapons smuggler with suspected ties to Iran during a raid near Qasirin, north of Baghdad, the U.S military said.

08/20/07 Reuters: 3 killed, 31 wounded by motorcycle bomb central Baghdad
At least three people were killed and 11 wounded when a bomb on a parked motorcycle exploded in a busy commercial area in central Baghdad, police said.

08/20/07 Reuters: Iraqi soldier killed in Tuz Khurmato
One Iraqi soldier was killed and another wounded by a roadside bomb in Tuz Khurmato, 80 km (50 miles) south of Kirkuk, police said.

08/20/07 Reuters; Gunmen kill 2 policemen in Baji
BAIJI - Gunmen killed two police officers in a drive-by shooting in Baiji, 180 km (110 miles) north of Baghdad, police said. The officers were brothers, they said.

08/20/07 Reuters: Gunmen kidnapped five truck drivers
Gunmen kidnapped five truck drivers on the road between Baiji and Tikrit, police said.

08/19/07 AFP: Sadr pledges to work with UN if it replaces US, Britain in Iraq
Radical Iraqi cleric Moqtada al-Sadr has pledged to commit his forces and followers to help the United Nations were it to replace American and British troops in Iraq, in an interview published on Monday.

08/19/07 reliefweb: IOCC launches Iraqi refugee program In Syria
Iraqi refugee children who have fled the dangers of their homeland still face the danger of a childhood without an education. International Orthodox Christian Charities (IOCC), ...announces a new initiative

http://icasualties.org/oif/

:puke:


oh... and the "number" is: 3707

:cry:



On edit, another "gem" there: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x302840

"New" military tactics R working... HAHAHAHAHA :cry: :mad:
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 09:44 AM
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4. Yep, thats what "SHE" said to the vet group
Hitlery, CMC in '08

I doubt asnybody will go talk to that St Louis group anytime. ( very few votes to risk losing fence sitter votes )
/sarc
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 03:15 PM
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5. "People have to root for America"?? Why?
That's the stupidest thing I ever heard. What a demagogue!

Is this a football game?

Christ, I can't believe the obliviousness, and callousnous, of this statement.

Half a million Iraqis are DEAD!

Millions of Iraqis are refugees!

Thousands have been tortured, their minds and their lives crippled for life!

We are looking at tens of thousands of permanent injuries to our own soldiers, and a ten trillion dollar deficit!

This war profiteer looting expedition is the most disgraceful thing our government has ever done, bar none. This was not a "quagmire" that we were dragged into by paranoid anti-communists. This was a DELIBERATELY CHOSEN, conscious, calculated war crime of the first magnitude. There is no excuse for it.

And her utter BLANKNESS about the illegality of this horror--the violations of international law, the ripping away of any and every policy of promoting peace, is just mind-boggling.

"People have to root for America"??! Good God!
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 04:41 PM
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6. Well, maybe Hilliary will politely ask you to leave the country if you
Edited on Tue Aug-21-07 04:57 PM by ohio2007
refuse to lock step to the party line.

Hail to the chief and "the next war"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLXso2HnGwI&eurl=

/sarc
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 04:46 PM
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7. Good For Them!
:bounce:
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