ABC News Exclusive: The Secret War Against Iran

[RamboLiberal]

Source: ABC

A Pakistani tribal militant group responsible for a series of deadly guerrilla raids inside Iran has been secretly encouraged and advised by American officials since 2005, U.S. and Pakistani intelligence sources tell ABC News.

The group, called Jundullah, is made up of members of the Baluchi tribe and operates out of the Baluchistan province in Pakistan, just across the border from Iran.

It has taken responsibility for the deaths and kidnappings of more than a dozen Iranian soldiers and officials.

U.S. officials say the U.S. relationship with Jundullah is arranged so that the U.S. provides no funding to the group, which would require an official presidential order or "finding" as well as congressional oversight.



Read more: http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/04/abc_news_exclus.html

[aquart]

1. Jesus H. Christ.

Do we never learn?

[Webster Green]

2. Lovely....we're sending death squads into Iran

Nothing I didn't know....but I'm surprised they are admitting to it.

Sounds illegal to me!

[hang a left]

3. Sure they are not funded by US

Black ops budget.

[orwell]

4. But...but...

...what about the British sailors?

Nevermind...

[ck4829]

5. The US government may not be funding them, but the Iran-Contra network was never truly dismantled

War and destabilization on a global basis continues to this day, thanks to them.

[Ian David]

18. I wonder if the "retired" FBI agent conducting "personal business" in Iran was working on this?

[anotherdrew]

6. SO - bush is aiding and supporting terorists. get his ass to gitmo on a waterboard TODAY

I want that shithead naked and screaming ASAP, his own medicine is the only way to treat these pieces of human shit calling themselves the bush admin.

[anotherdrew]

7. no we don't directly "fund" them, we just give the shit to pakistan and let them do it

real tricky - and total bullshit, impeach, convict and send to a hell-hole prison for life

[jaksavage]

8. Let me pull up a chair

Warm my bones by the fire of your vitriol.
Nice to hear folks fired up and fed up w/ *

Stir it up
give
get out
speak up
repeat louder

[Miss Chybil]

9. This would mean Iran had every right to attack us, if true.

No wonder they want the bomb. I'd want it, too.

[Purveyor]

10. K&R

:kick:

[IndianaGreen]

11. Are we now using Al-Qaeda supported tribal groups to cause trouble with Iran?

We had Osama bin Laden and Mullah Omar working for us during the Afghan-Soviet War, and look at how that blew in our faces.

[progressoid]

12. Jesus, they just don't learn from their mistakes do they?

[L. Coyote]

25. If the price of oil is the stadard, where is the mistake? Mission accomplished = $70 barrel.

One person's mistake is another's profit.

[struggle4progress]

13. Gotta provoke the Iranians into some causus belli somehow, y'know

[JusticeForAll]

14. Here's my conspiracy theory about this...

A cut of the poppy crops the US is raising in Afghanistan are the payoff to the Jundullah.

Now that I've read the article...I'm betting this theory is pretty darn close to the truth:

He used to fight with the Taliban. He's part drug smuggler, part Taliban, part Sunni activist," said Alexis Debat, a senior fellow on counterterrorism at the Nixon Center and an ABC News consultant who recently met with Pakistani officials and tribal members.


Whoever thinks up these 'solutions' to the world's problems, under the guise of US policy, needs to be thrown away in prison for a long, long, time.

[C_U_L8R]

15. Where's Ollie ?

up to his old dirty tricks??

[HuffleClaw]

16. they announced they'd do just that

and now they'll play all innocent. just watch 'em.

[Ian David]

17. It took ABC and the MSM how many weeks to start reporting on this?

This is old news to the blogosphere.

I guess that after a while, the mainstream media has to start paying attention to the facts... and as we know, the facts have a liberal bias.


See prior threads:

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[Ian David]

19. Sy Hersh, Feb 25th 2007 : U.S. Funds Being Secretly Funneled To Violent Al Qaeda-Linked Groups

ABC's "Exclusive" is a little bit late, isn't it?

Hersh: U.S. Funds Being Secretly Funneled To Violent Al Qaeda-Linked Groups

New Yorker columnist Sy Hersh says the “single most explosive” element of his latest article involves an effort by the Bush administration to stem the growth of Shiite influence in the Middle East (specifically the Iranian government and Hezbollah in Lebanon) by funding violent Sunni groups.

Hersh says the U.S. has been “pumping money, a great deal of money, without congressional authority, without any congressional oversight” for covert operations in the Middle East where it wants to “stop the Shiite spread or the Shiite influence.” Hersh says these funds have ended up in the hands of “three Sunni jihadist groups” who are “connected to al Qaeda” but “want to take on Hezbollah.”

Hersh summed up his scoop in stark terms: “We are simply in a situation where this president is really taking his notion of executive privilege to the absolute limit here, running covert operations, using money that was not authorized by Congress, supporting groups indirectly that are involved with the same people that did 9/11.”

Watch it:
http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/flvplayer.swf?file=http://images2.americanprogressaction.org/ThinkProgress/flv/2007/02/hershciv.320.240.flv&autoStart=false

Hersh added, “All of this should be investigated by Congress, by the way, and I trust it will be. In my talking to membership — members there, they are very upset that they know nothing about this. And they have great many suspicions.”

More:
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/25/hersh-qaeda/



This is old news to the blogosphere.

I guess that after a while, the mainstream media has to start paying attention to the facts... and as we know, the facts have a liberal bias.


See prior threads:

Sy Hersch: Iran War Already Underway (to distract us from Iraq)
Topic started by TOJ on Feb-25-07 09:09 AM (7 replies)
Last modified by ixion on Feb-26-07 07:12 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=103&topic_id=265241


NYT editorial: Bush diverted U.S. to Iraq, allowing Al Qaeda to get "back in business"
Topic started by DeepModem Mom on Feb-25-07 02:03 AM (6 replies)
Last modified by marmar on Feb-25-07 10:34 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=103&topic_id=265218


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Topic started by babsbunny on Feb-26-07 05:18 PM (8 replies)
Last modified by LSparkle on Feb-26-07 06:33 PM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=3135465


Chris Floyd: Brothers in Arms Again: Bush Faction Arming Al Qaeda to Thwart Iran
Topic started by babylonsister on Feb-26-07 03:15 PM (1 replies)
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=3135259

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Last modified by Canuckistanian on Feb-26-07 10:14 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=285923

[kiteinthewind]

20. K&R nt

:kick:

[donkeyotay]

21. It's not terror when we do it. It's not torture when done in Gonzales' crusade.

It's not an international crime when we overthrow a government for its own good. It's not a junta when we install a demockracy. It's not a deathsquad when we kill. What a complete disaster. Meanwhile Duncan Hunter and the rest of the 'ho's are auctioning us off. They're using our money to sell us out to the privatized GOP-mafia government. It's true. It sounds odd, but they're using our own money to sell us out.

"Impeach Bush for Blowing the Job"

[DixieBlue]

22. Oh, covert wars.

I thought we finished up with those in the 80's?

Oh, wait, Negreponte's still around, isn't he?

This all makes me so sick.

[pigpickle]

23. American thugocracy as usual

[L. Coyote]

24. Bush in Tegucigalpa giving $100 million to Honduras as Challenger blew up

wasn't direct aid of the Contras either. It may have determined that the launch could not be cancelled to avoid media focus on the pseudo-crime of circumventing US law??

And "the U.S. relationship with Jundullah is arranged so that the U.S. provides no funding to the group" sound all too familiar. Honduras gave the $100 million to the Contras, so, unequivocally, the US did not, right!!

Are the Sandinista terrorists on the Texas border yet? Rhetoric to haunt Freeepers.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x503712

[VegasWolf]

26. I've lost all respect for ABC after they have been saying how hunky-dory everything in

Baghdad is after the surge. ABC news can't find their own dick in their own trousers.