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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 01:53 AM
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Thousands riot in China, attack cops
BEIJING: Thousands of Chinese farmers and laid-off workers rioted in central China, attacking police and smashing squad cars, a local official said on Monday, the latest in a string of violent protests.

Nine police cars were burnt during the riot on Friday in the central province of Hunan in which 20,000 people clashed with about 1,000 police armed with guns and electric cattle prods, a local official said.

"They did it because they were not satisfied with some government behaviour," the official, surnamed Tan, said over telephone from the district of Lingling, which belongs to the Hunan city of Yongzhou. "They were also unhappy about corruption," Tan said without elaborating....>

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/NEWS/World/Rest_of_World/Thousands_riot_in_China_attack_cops/articleshow/1755376.cms
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 02:46 AM
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1. I guess their boats weren't raised in the rising tide of prosperity.
How very interesting.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 04:05 AM
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2. I guess when their economy 'booms' it works just like ours
The rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 05:10 AM
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4. 'Free' trade: It "creates" wealth for the richest and "destroys" it for anyone else. (nt)
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 05:06 AM
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3. This is what you get when you leave poor people to be exploited.
Angry people.

The Communist Party in Beijing claims to be on the side of workers, but if that were true, none of this would be happening. I bet dozens of protesters have been gunned down.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 09:12 AM
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6. Change communism with republicans and workers with people
and you have us.

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manic expression Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 11:17 AM
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11. The Communist Party has been bourgeois since Deng
unabashedly capitalist by any measure. This is no secret, and this happens if the revolution is not properly defended.
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youngdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 05:48 AM
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5. The simple fact is that China (nor the world) is large enough for 1 Billion middle class lives
China is going to go through TERRIBLE turmoil soon as more feel left out. The China doesn't have enough resources to support China's growth and sustain it, nor offer it to the majority of their 1+ billion residents.

They had no choice but to modernize their economy, but it is gonna get really messy.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 09:13 AM
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7. and yet we have a corrupt government and we do nothing. :)
weeeee!!! isn't democracy wonderful!!!
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Show_Me _The_Truth Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 11:52 AM
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16. Comparing the situation in the US vs China is disingenuous at best
Have you ever been to China? Go sometime and then make your comparison.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 02:30 PM
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17. My point is, we don't protest anymore.
Oh sure there are various demonstrations, but like my friends from Europe say to me, "what is wrong with you people, you have so much corruptions, you should be rioting in the streets".

They have a point.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 02:32 PM
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18. maybe we have to find ourselves with nothing only then will we get up and
Edited on Tue Mar-13-07 02:33 PM by alyce douglas
do something.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 10:15 AM
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8. The Riots have JUST begun More to come
The day of Cheap labor is coming to an end

as Marx predicted the Worker will rise up
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 10:39 AM
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9. I don't think the Chinese people are willing to wait 100 years for
a change in govt. I think they want it NOW!
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 06:28 PM
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20. As long as the govt. has the means and the people don't
The current system will remain.
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 11:15 AM
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10. The protests need to be non violent
The rioting only give the government the right to "defend" itself. If the protests were non violent, the police wouldn't need to shoot or "prod" them.
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manic expression Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 11:19 AM
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12. Don't be silly or naive
they tried that in Tianamen, it didn't work.

Non-violence plays into the hands of the ruling class, it is worthless when the enemy is a system or a class. Non-violent protests just allows the cops to suppress you with ease, which is exactly what happened in Seattle and many other places.
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ckramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 11:24 AM
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14. You are right
they tried that (violence) in Tianamen (last time), it didn't work.

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manic expression Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 11:26 AM
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15. Other way around
the protesters in Tianamen tried to be non-violent, but the authorities just crushed them. Therefore, the need for resolute action from the masses is clear.

By the way, the protesters were communists opposing the counterrevolutionaries in the Party. In fact, they sang the Internationale, the international communist anthem, as they were fired upon.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 04:50 PM
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19. All kinds of right-wingers sang the Internationale in 1989.
They all sounded the song of "democratic socialism," and "socialism with a human face." Then, once the communist parties were ideologically disarticulated, the pretense was up and the full program for neo-liberal economics came out in full force. You can see these "communist" student leaders are really right-wingers by their proclamations from exile.
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ckramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 11:21 AM
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13. Looks like everyone here missed the last sentence
Edited on Tue Mar-13-07 11:25 AM by ckramer
"The Hunan official said the riot had been quelled and that scores of the rioters were arrested. The government was tracking down the organisers."


oh btw, this is how riots always ended in china.

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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 07:42 PM
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21. in the America of today they would have been gunned down by the cops and you know it
Edited on Tue Mar-13-07 07:44 PM by anotherdrew
torching cop cars? That's grounds for immediate extra-judicial execution here in the good ole USA.

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