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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 11:06 AM
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NYT: Turning Point for Panel: 4 Harrowing Days in Iraq; Considered interim report
A Turning Point for a Panel: 4 Harrowing Days in Iraq
By PHILIP SHENON
Published: December 8, 2006

WASHINGTON, Dec. 7 — For some members of the Iraq Study Group, the turning point came during four days in Baghdad in September. They found the trip so harrowing, they said, that they wondered if they could afford to wait to speak out about the disaster in Iraq.

Like other visitors, they arrived on a C-130 transport plane that performed a plunging corkscrew maneuver to avoid insurgent fire while landing at Baghdad’s airport. Then they were bundled into flak jackets and helmets and rushed onto attack helicopters for the five-minute flight to the Green Zone, the military-controlled neighborhood that is sealed off from the city.

There, they were placed in fleet of armored Humvees, each with a medic seated in the back to offer first aid in the event of a rocket attack. The roar of the Humvees’ engines could not mask the sound of explosions from car bombs outside the Green Zone. The security measures had been routine for most of the American occupation, but they were still jarring to these first-time visitors to the war zone....

Whatever their early differences over the American venture in Iraq, some of those serving on the 10-member bipartisan panel and its staff say the trip to Baghdad brought them to a common understanding of the catastrophic situation in Iraq and how much had gone wrong in American planning for the occupation.

They said the situation in Baghdad was so bleak — and in many ways, so much worse than they expected — that the four Democrats and three Republicans on the trip debated releasing an interim report as soon as they returned home. They worried that a final report released after the November elections, as planned, would be too late to have any hope of salvaging the situation.

One Democrat on the trip, Leon E. Panetta, White House chief of staff under the former president Bill Clinton, said the idea of an interim report was scrapped out of a concern that “if we put out something before the election, we’d be chewed up” in a political fight....

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/08/world/middleeast/08tictoc.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 11:11 AM
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1. They found it harrowing and they were totally protected and...
stayed in the Green Zone. Can you imagine if they had to leave the Green Zone and actually go into Baghdad the way the Iraqis have to.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 11:34 AM
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2. Very good point. nt
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PsN2Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 04:50 PM
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3. Actually, Chuck Robb
did get out of the Greenzone but no one else had the cajones.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 06:38 PM
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6. I didn't know that -- but did I hear that he was the only one on the panel...
with military experience, having served in Vietnam?
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PsN2Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 08:09 PM
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7. Robb is a former Marine
and reportedly went out to Anbar Province which is truly "in the shit".
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 08:22 PM
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8. Wow! Kudos to Robb. nt
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 05:19 PM
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4. How much do we want to bet
that Bill Kristol didn't go?

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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 05:37 PM
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5. Hey, it's easier to defend war crimes, deadly greed, and atrocities
when they remain abstract concepts to politely debate over coffee.
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