Sources Tell ABC News Senator Harry Reid Is Implicated In Abramoff Lobbying Investigation

[ECH1969]

http://abcnews.go.com/

[texpatriot2004]

1. I don't trust ABC and I don't trust Abramoff. I do trust Harry Reid.

Give em hell Harry. Harry Reid has a posse.

[President Jesus]

67. right, because ABC totally held back on the Foley scandal

You're totally right...they are a shill for the GOP. :eyes:

[Norquist Nemesis]

2. I'm betting Dorgan's name will come out next

They're going to try and associate (guilt by association) through the Indian tribes just like they tried a few months ago to say "Democrats were involved as well." It's going to be the same gameplay.

[tsuki]

3. Is this the same shit they were trying to peddle a while back. The

one about the Indian tribes gamboling casino?

[still_one]

9. abc has shown where they stand very clearly

frist the propaganda piece on 9/11, now this

mickey mouse/disney and abc can stick it up their ass

maybe their kids can get a first priority to be sent to Iraq

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

64. "frist" the propaganda piece...

:D

[anitar1]

26. The only thing I remember reading a few months back

is that Abramoff contributed to Reid as he did to some other dems. Can't remember all the details, but it was brought out and Reid rejected the money. It was posted here on DU, but I don't have a clue as to when or who posted it. Someone who knows how to search it out can find it. I think this article today is pure BS.

[LynneSin]

42. Abramoff has not contributed to any democrats

Only Indian Tribes associated with Abramoff have contributed to democrats but not necessarily because of Abramoff.

[Norquist Nemesis]

49. What LynneSin said. Also, they failed to report that contributions

declined from those same tribes, IIRC.

[tsuki]

51. Reid always votes no to off reservation casinos, and he does

receive campaign contributions from Indian tribes. What they could not connect was a contribution from Abramoff. So, he guilty. :sarcasm:

[stepnw1f]

55. Republicans Share with Democrats?

Maybe Lieberman, come to think of it.

[Virginia Dare]

4. Is this some new information he's presented?

or is this a rehash of what we've already heard? :hide:

[texpatriot2004]

5. BTW this is not the 1st thread on this topic today. nm

[still_one]

6. WHO ARE THESE SOURCES? This was a republican scandal

if they are trying to associate Reid working for Native Americans in Nevada and trying to implicate him with abramjackoff this is the repuke/F*CK/SH*THEAD machinary at work again

Why oh why do they bring it up NOW?

[Freedom_from_Chains]

8. Yea, Harry seems to scare them so he may be first on the hit list.

[emulatorloo]

15. Judge Judy - "If it doesn't make sense, it isn't true!"

Dems were without influence and power these past few years. How in the world does it make sense that Abramoff is trying to buy favors from Democrats? These "Sources" sound like the Right Wing Lie Machine to me. . .

[still_one]

16. The Dems better bring back equal time

since they WON back Congress I have been seeing the MSM go OUT OF THEIR WAY to minimize the victory, and try and report anything degratory about them

[aquart]

24. You didn't think the election would end it, did you?

You didn't think they'd just give up control and go away quietly?

They slime. It's what they do.

Which reminds me: put breaking up media monopolies on the To Do List.

[earth mom]

62. Exactly. They will not give up & they will continue to play dirty...

meanwhile dems are saying...oh no-we can't impeach-it isn't nice! :sarcasm:

[buddysmellgood]

25. Drudge, Rove, Rush etc.

[Botany]

7. please

they tried this shit a year ago.

Reid has several tribes of Native Americans in his state.
He has worked from them long before Abramoff came on the
scene. And yes he has taken money from them. They
are his constituents.

Abromoff did not give one dime of money to one
democrat.

[Bitwit1234]

10. OK

So all these democrats were crooked. All these democrats accept bribe money from Abramoff. If this is true why in the devil is Abramoff JUST NOW REPORTING ON THIS.....I don't believe him any more than I believe ABC's 'PATH TO 9/11'

[emulatorloo]

11. Is ABC planning another fantasy TV Movie? Where powerless Dems get

paid by Abramoff to buy thier "non-influence" while powerful Republicans are all innocent?

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[Robbien]

17. Thanks for all your "concern"

so nice of you to be so "concerned"

[aquart]

22. Thank you for your concern.

We'll be just fine.

[Stand and Fight]

36. You're so full of bologna...

If you had done your homework you would know that this allegation is baseless and was disproved a year ago.

[LynneSin]

43. Trouble - by whom and for what reason?

Murtha with a scandal from 20 years ago?

Reid because he has helped Native Americans, who happen to be abundant in Nevada but also part of the Abramoff Treachery?

Pul-lease - Repukes just trying to hit back since they lost everything!

[Andreas Baader]

13. Same old Conservative MSM

Abramoff is a liar, a murderer and just doing the last bit of dirty work for the repugnicans on his way to the slam.

I guess it's just a coincidence that they picked Reid to go after since the new gov of NV is a repugnican.

[closeupready]

29. EXACTLY.

I don't believe this for one minute.

[Straight Shooter]

47. Andreas, very astute observation.

Welcome to DU. :hi:

[rodeodance]

14. Reid needs to get on this quick and FAST and HARD

[Stand and Fight]

37. I suppose you don't recall that he did last year...

And this shit got shot down and buried.

[Onlooker]

18. Didn't Reid already comment on this

I think a few months ago, Reid acknowledged having contacts with the firm Abramoff worked for, and said his voting record shows that he wasn't bought. He was either already on record supporting initiatives that Abramoff wanted or had actually voted against them. I can't recall the details, but believe this is old news.

[The Count]

19. Yup. recycled old non-news.

[aquart]

23. Yes.

Reid represents Nevada. He votes FOR gambling interests. He's supposed to. It's the economic lifeblood of his state.

Keep tryin', fellas!

[papau]

61. He was against the Abramoff initiatives before and after meeting him. n/t

n/t

[aquart]

20. There is no way DeLay would have allowed Dems to get cash. No way.

Can't wait to see the evidence.

Not one word on any REPUBLICAN senators? Odd.

[underpants]

27. Exactly. That would undermine the entire purpose of the K Street Project

I don't know any of the details but history shows us that the AP has trumpled up a copy of complete non-stories on Reid and that this just simply doesn't make any sense. The entire purpose of the K Street Project was to cut ALL Dems from ALL money.

[God Almighty]

21. Maybe they should pick Russ for majority leader.

He's got a lot of integrity.

[LynneSin]

44. WHY?

Reid hasn't done anything wrong

http://www.capitaleye.org/abramoff_donor.asp
List of everyone who received money from Abraomoff - ALL REPUBLICANS

The money that the democrats received came from Indian Tribes, some of which had associations with Abramoff because they trusted that he would help them establish casinos. But these same tribes also donate to candidates in their state, especially those in states who happen to have higher Native American tribes

[Initech]

28. I knew the repukes were up to something.

They weren't going to accept defeat quietly. :argh:

[Vinca]

30. I guess the 2008 campaign has begun. nt

[humbled_opinion]

32. Thas it in a nutshell....

2008 campaign will be an attempt by the Thugs to show Democrats as just as corrupt as Republicans. In other words they will try and even the playing field. Get used to it, wait till they start going after Democrat congressman and then they will say... You see when a Republican politician is accused of wrong doing he shamefully and publically resigns. A Democrat kicks and screams until he is proven guilty.

[torrentprime]

31. Between

This and the resurrection of the Abscam stories AND the "impeached judge" story, the Democrats have a lot of dangerous waters to navigate. I Hope they pull it off...

[humbled_opinion]

33. What?

The water is only dangerous for Republican crooks... If Nixon taught us anything it is that Republicans are liars, cheats and thieves. Democrats are Honest and hardworking for the people. I am sure if you study the subject you will find that accused Democrats are not guilty and accused repugs are that is why they resign and we fight it out.

[Tarheel_Dem]

34. Thanks for the concern.....

but if these old rehashed stories had any legs, I'm sure the repubs would have played these trump cards before they lost the congress. We'll be fine, but nice try anyway.

[Stand and Fight]

38. Get a grip...

:wtf: You really don't think people are going for this BS, do you? Honestly now...

[Initech]

53. The next couple months are going to be very intersting...

[loveandlight]

35. this is what we get for the next two years

Republicans can't concede defeat. They must turn around and attack attack attack! They are going to throw up everything they can to delegitimize the incoming leadership of the Congress, just as if it were election time. They will be on this constantly, trying to throw dirt and impasses and whatever they can. And then come election 2008 they will use all their own bullshit as if it were real the challenges the Democratic leadership. Whatever someone thinks they have, it is nothing compared to what they have done. But believe me, the press will be on it as if it is the same kind of corruption that the Republicans perpetrated.

All bullshit ... pure and simple.

[stillcool]

39. typical...

horse-shit.

[AllieB]

40. ABC's "Sources" = Fox's "Some People Say"

I smell BS! :eyes:

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

41. A source close to Brian Ross and Rhonda Schwartz reports...

that the two ABC reporters have been engaged in criminal activites involving a shetland pony and a case of WD-40.

Aren't anonymous sources fun?

Anyone can say anything about anybody.

In this case, an anonymous source is claiming that Abramoff (convicted felon) made a totally unverifiable accusation against Harry Reid. Nice try, fucktards.

[fob]

45. Let me guess --- jackassemoff will implicate every Democrat that

represents a state with a republick governor and the state laws allow the governor to appoint a replacement for a Senator/Rep open seat.


Hmmmmmm.

[bamacrat]

46. Does anyone else think this lame-duck congress...

will try and sink the new democratic congress before it sets sail? oh yes nautical metaphors.

[bluestateguy]

48. OK fine, just find me the link that shows how much Abramoff gave to Reid and we'll work from there

I'll be expecting that data on my desk in the morning.

[upi402]

59. OK, I've got

crickets...

:shrug:
hearing crickets here

[LynnTheDem]

50. No, he is not.

And that's a FACT.

Rightwingnuts; so MFing stupid.

[Generic Brad]

52. And what supposedly stopped Abramoff from naming names?

This ABC story is one of the biggest pieces of crap I have ever seen. It is nothing more than rumor and innuendo with not one piece of evidence to back it up.

[Nevernose]

54. Reid's the senator from NEVADA, fer crissakes

Reid's the senator from NEVADA, fer crissakes...of COURSE he voted no on Indian Casinos. EVERY politician from Nevada votes against Idian casinos at EVERY possible opportunity. Dem, Rep, makes no difference.

Abramoff was paif by tribes to promote Indian Gaming, then he took the money and spent it on promoting anti-gaming measures (and got paid for that, too). That's the heart of the Abramoff scandal. If Reid received money to vote against Indian Gaming, how could anyone get mad? IT's not like he took a bribe to vote against his conscience; he just got paid to do what he was going to do anyway.

[Skittles]

56. if this was true it would certainly have surfaced before the election

I call B U L L S H I T

[TankLV]

57. It's a fucking LIE.

The repukes would NOT sit on a juicy story like this until now.

No.
Fucking.
Way.

[whirlygigspin]

58. old news

more ABC fascist bullshit

[Occulus]

60. It's the same old same old 'some people say' tapdance n/t

[Eurobabe]

63. Notice all the stories of late trying to discredit Dem ethics & cred?

It's payback time for the SoreLoserman CONS.

[Tight_rope]

65. My "BULL SHIT" meter will tell me if this is true.

[grizmaster]

66. Abramoff is rabidly anti-Democrat

He wouldn't even have anything to do with "bushyites" in his early days. I doubt very much any claim of his having dealings with dems in any direct way.


http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2006/02/06/abramoffs_grand_aims_came_early/

''Our job," Abramoff wrote, ''is to remove liberals ''from power permanently -- student newspaper and radio stations, student governments, and academia.

''We are replacing these leftists with committed conservatives."

snip

Under Abramoff, the College Republicans office quickly became a nesting ground for hard-right believers. The new team, allies recalled, berated Republican moderates as ''Bushyites" -- a reference to the vice president -- and ''squishes" who were too eager to cut deals with Democrats on Capitol Hill, or with the Russians at superpower summits.

[USA_1]

68. Sorry, Couldn't Find Precise Link ... Sources Are Who????

Please identify the specific sources.

Thanks.

[USA_1]

69. Anonymous Sources ...

speaking on condition of anonymity:


http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/001997.php



No surprise.

[devilgrrl]

70. Some say....

:sarcasm:

[lumberjack_jeff]

71. "Implicated" Grrr... fuckers.

Reid and Murray both accepted donations from the tribes that Abramoff represented.

There is no evidence:
a) that the tribes donated to them at Abramoff's recommendation
b) that the tribe donated to them to buy their vote, as opposed to supporting them for their historic support of tribal causes.

The reverse is absolutely not true of the indicted republicans.

[ContraBass Black]

72. My "Sources Say"

That ABC can't be trusted.