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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 02:54 PM
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Cheney forecasts lengthy violence in Iraq
WASHINGTON (AFP) - US Vice President Dick Cheney warned that deadly violence would plague Iraq for "some considerable period of time" and said it was up to Iraqis to decide how to tackle sectarian militias.

Asked about radical Iraqi cleric Moqtada al-Sadr and his Mahdi Army militia, Cheney told CNBC television that US-led forces had dealt with "the chief bad guy," Saddam Hussein, and that it was now up to Iraqis to handle Sadr.

Sadr "obviously speaks for a significant number of Iraqis, has a strong following. But if anything were to be addressed in that area, it's got to be addressed by the Iraqis themselves," Cheney said in the interview.

"The Iraqis are now the sovereign authority inside Iraq. That's their government. It's their responsibility. They'll have to make those judgments and decisions," he said.

The White House released a transcript of the exchange, which came as opposition Democrats used the unpopular war in Iraq as a political weapon in an effort to win control of the US Congress in November 7 elections.

(more)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20061030/pl_afp/usvoteiraqc...



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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 02:58 PM
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1. So, basically "It's not OUR fault there's so much violence in Iraq!"
Edited on Mon Oct-30-06 03:07 PM by Whoa_Nelly
You Iraqi gub'mint peoples bettah git yourselves outta this mess!


Hey, Dick! STFU
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 04:44 PM
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14. A few weeks ago, Cheney said, things were going along fine
in Iraq...what has changed his mind so subliminally?
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 07:17 AM
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27. should read "Cheney Forecasts lengthy opportunity to make Billions"
The Fuck face wants even more $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 08:32 AM
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31. Lynne Cheney woke dick up with a mustache ride is the only
thing I can figure out.

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joemurphy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 02:59 PM
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2. But no need to worry, folks. Part of the "final throes" y'see. n/t
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 03:02 PM
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3. blah blah blah i'm cheney and i can say anything i want blah blah blah...
with no accountability.
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 03:02 PM
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4. What happened to all the foreign terrorists?
Aren't foreigners supposed to be the ones causing all the trouble over there so we don't have to fight them over here?
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 03:04 PM
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5. Cheney has wet dreams about lengthy violence
This is but one of his favorite things.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 07:19 AM
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28. I believe both Cheney and the Chimp achieve arousal looking at photos like this
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 07:39 AM
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29. Yup, that'll do it n/t
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 03:05 PM
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6. Did Cheney ever read the Just War Doctrine?
Four conditions that must be met.
1) Is the damage threatened to be inflicted by the aggressor on the nation or community of nations lasting, grave, or certain?
2) Are all other means of putting an end to the threat shown to be impractical or ineffective?
3) Are there serious prospects of success?
4) Does the action produce evils and disorders graver than the evil to be eliminated?

Doesn't look like this war qualifies. Oh well.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 04:51 PM
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15. Not to be discussed -- only for the American Heritage Foundage to revise
a lil' history.
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 03:42 PM
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7. So, I guess we're just there as targets.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 03:44 PM
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8. ... thus ensuring Halliburton remains well fed for the forseeable future. nt
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 03:56 PM
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9. "Iraqis are now the sovereign authority inside Iraq"
So does that mean if they order the U.S. military off their land, we have no choice but to comply? And which Iraqis are the authority? The elected ones, or the ones with the most bang-bangs? And if it's the ones with the most bang-bangs, Mr. Cheney, why aren't we doing a better job of being careful who we hand out those weapons to?
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 04:06 PM
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10. Brave Dick will fight to the last drop of YOUR blood.
He has other priorities like cashing in on the war profiteering.
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PlanetBev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 04:15 PM
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11. Gee, Crashcart
Seems to me that not long ago you said we were "turning a corner" in Iraq.

You fucking android, you.
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Clyde39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 04:20 PM
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12. No one can trust a single word out of Cheney's mouth
His many assured pronouncements have all proven to be false. Why should we believe him now?
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 04:42 PM
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13. More Oil! More Oil!


:sarcasm:
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 04:52 PM
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16. Wait, I thought the insurgency was in its last throes??!!
We are still at war with Eurasia, right?
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InternalDialogue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 05:27 PM
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17. Predictions of protracted deadly violence
These kind of predictions, none of them a surprise to anyone who paid attention to what real experts said before the invasion, should have been part of the national and congressional discussion pre-invasion. And now that the horse has left the barn, it's too late.

But it's not too late to investigate whether the administration knowingly withheld such predictions from Congress and the American public.

True leaders would have put it all on the table; incompetent leaders would have... well, we know what they did.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 09:40 PM
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18. Kaaaaaching!
Lot's of money to be made yet!
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 10:13 PM
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19. Way To GOTV Dick!
For the Dems that is. :rofl:
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 10:26 PM
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20. the same day he said the violence was up because of our elections?
the terrorists want the Dems to win, doncha know?

If that was the case, then the violence will immediately subside right after the elections... right, dick?
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 10:35 PM
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21. big deal, lots of folks around here were doing that 4 years ago during the "sell"
Edited on Mon Oct-30-06 10:37 PM by 0rganism
and we didn't even have an intelligence agency to cherrypick!

All I can say is, the press had better not try to feign surprise at how badly the bushistas have fucked this process -- no, wait, not just Iraq, the entire body of international diplomacy. Every treaty, every deal, every agreement, every detente, and every shred of trust built up since WWII is put in jeopardy by these blood-soaked greedheads.
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Thor_MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 11:05 PM
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22. He said with a gleam of death in his eye "More War, More Violence,,,"
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aaronbees Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 11:52 PM
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23. It's all part of "turning the corner" ....
Turn the corner, there's an IED. Turn another one, more IED's!!! Can't argue with that logic there, Darth Vader.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 12:17 AM
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24. A very very very long "last throes"
"We know where they are"

"There is no doubt"

"It won't cost the (US) taxpayer"

"We're winning"

"We will, in fact, be greeted as liberators"
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arewenotdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 01:42 AM
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25. Not to worry. He just means one or two
Friedmans.

At the most.
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 06:34 AM
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26. But i thought the violence was just due to our elections... n/t
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sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 07:46 AM
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30. Nice call, evil genius....
Sort of forgot that some of us were predicting this in 2003, eh? What was that you said? Oh, I remember: I look at weeks, maybe months, certainly not years.

I guess reality really does have a liberal bias.
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