‘It is either us or you,’ Iraqi rebels tell U.S.

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http://www.azzaman.com/english/index.asp?fname=news\2006-10-19\kurd1.htm

‘It is either us or you,’ Iraqi rebels tell U.S.
Azzaman, October 19, 2006

Iraqi rebels are determined to turn the Muslim holy month of Ramadan this year into a turning point in their struggle to defeat the United States.

In interviews with residents and insurgents in violence-ridden areas, particularly in central Iraq, it appears that rebel tactics of turning the holy month into the bloodiest for the occupiers have been ‘a resounding success.’

“We have long queues of people willing to have themselves killed if they guarantee they will take one of the ‘Olooch’ with them,” said and Iraqi man who had spent sometime with a few rebels in a prison.

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Stories of U.S. atrocities – mistreatment of prisoners, molesting of females, killing of innocent Iraqis as well as reported rape and murder – are the main topics of conversation almost everywhere in this volatile region.

“There is no way to drive a wedge between us and the resistance. We are all one voice that it is either us or them (U.S.),” said a tribal chieftain, also not willing to reveal his name.

[Dhalgren]

1. "‘Olooch’ " I wonder how that translates? Anyone know?

[sabra]

4. from the article:

<snip>

‘Olooch’ is the Arabic term the rebels use to refer to U.S. troops which is invariably translated into infidels. It was first used by former leader Saddam Hussein to describe U.S.-led troops that had assembled to topple him in 2003.

[yellerpup]

2. Illuminating post

"Us or them" is what it always comes down to. Stop the war and save lives.

[Binka]

3. Could It Be Any Clearer? n/t

[htuttle]

5. Deja Vu all over again

"Charlie didn't get much USO. He was dug in too deep or moving too fast. His idea of great R and R was cold rice and a little rat meat. He had only two ways home: death or victory."
-- Captain Willard, Apocalypse Now

[Javaman]

9. Charlie don't surf! nt

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6. Don't those rebels realize we're determined to win?

We're staying, no matter the cost. So says the Monkey in Chief.

[Dhalgren]

7. The Dictator doesn't care how many US soldiers are killed or

how many Iraqi civilians are killed - he CAN'T be wrong, period. If he says things are going great in Iraq, by god, then things are going great! He can't let little things like the deaths and maiming of tens of thousands of US troops obscure his perfect understanding of reality! If reality doesn't fit in with the Dictator's opinion, then reality is wrong! The Dictator is infallible!

[filer]

8. He's on a mission from God. n/t

[Dhalgren]

10. He should wear sunglasses and a black, pork-pie hat...

[NMMNG]

11. Unfortunately the Monkey Boy's opinion is "It's US".

I wonder which group will win in this mess.

[Stockholm]

12. Bush surely is a uniter

n/t

[SpiralHawk]

13. Main topic of conversation in Iraq: US torture and abuse

Well, now they have nothing to complain about. Commander AWOL Bush has signed the republicon bill making it "legal" and "moral" for the US to torture, abuse, demean, and otherwise violate the basic human rights of human beings all over the planet.

Republicons: lacking in honor, judgement, and morality.