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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 01:30 PM
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New Foley Instant Messages; Had Internet Sex While Awaiting House Vote
Former Congressman Mark Foley (R-FL) interrupted a vote on the floor of the House in 2003 to engage in Internet sex with a high school student who had served as a congressional page, according to new Internet instant messages provided to ABC News by former pages.

ABC News now has obtained 52 separate instant message exchanges, which former pages say were sent by Foley, using the screen name Maf54, to two different boys under the age of 18.

This message was dated April 2003, at approximately 7 p.m., according to the message time stamp.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/10/new_foley_insta.html
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 01:32 PM
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1. Foley needs to be in prison with the penis pumping judge.
Edited on Tue Oct-03-06 01:33 PM by CottonBear
:( What a sick, sick, sick man. Sick in the freaking head. :(

edit: sp.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 01:36 PM
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2. thank you, mark foley, for being the most despicable member of the GOP
that the public could possibly imagine. luckily, your crimes are JUST about the most interestingly disgusting things that have been in the news since Michael Jackson... such perfect timing, too! i love the smell of the internet in the morning. smells like... victory.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 01:36 PM
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3. GOP = Grand Old Perverts
Curses to anyone who votes for his name in the election.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 02:49 PM
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27. Support pedophilia: vote Republican in 2006! (n/t)
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Anakin Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:22 PM
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46. Good One! LOL
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corporatemedia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 01:36 PM
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4. I've watched those votes on CSPAN and I never got horny! n/t
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 01:39 PM
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5. Bill ate pizza, and talk about troop movements while he did his thing
Oh *sigh* so much for the efficienct and effective production level of the Clinton 90's.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 09:45 PM
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62. Talked with Sonny Callahan (R-Alabamer)
Trof's rep.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 01:40 PM
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6. Probably that's the time the kid's mother left to go to work or something.
Jeebers, Foley. Your consitituents weren't paying your salary so you could take time off to titillate yourself.

What was the context of the vote?
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 11:43 PM
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53. Interesting question. What was the legislation that they were voting on?
It could be an interesting answer.
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 01:42 PM
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7. K & R
And that's all I have to say about that.
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 01:43 PM
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8. Is Foley fucking insane? Has he no judgement? Of course he put Natl
Edited on Tue Oct-03-06 02:28 PM by zonkers
Security at risk with behavior like this.
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Danieljay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 02:26 PM
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18. It's called addiction. His life has become unmanageable.
The alcoholics drug is found in a bottle. His drug hangs between his legs. Regardless, its all the same as far as addiction is concerned.

He's found his bottom.
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 02:29 PM
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21. I seriously wonder if and when he has ever had an aids test?
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 03:46 PM
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39. I very much doubt he's an alcoholic.
But we are going to be made to believe he is, so we will excuse him. I ain't buying. When I get drunk I don't go pick up twelve-yr-olds.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 04:17 PM
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40. If he would stick to his own bottom, nobody would care
It looks like he skipped to the bottom of the page, though.
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TroglodyteScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 04:21 PM
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41. SOMEONE has to acknowledge your wordplay...
Good stuff. Bad, but good.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 09:40 PM
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48. Thanks.
With today's Republicans, the material writes itself, though.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 11:48 PM
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55. No. He's a predator.
A sexual predator is not the same as a sexual addiction.
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 11:10 PM
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63. Addiction doesn't excuse behavior
I feel bad for drug addicts, for instance, and believe that they deserve far more help than we currently give them. However, when a drug addict robs someone's home to provide money to fuel their addiction, the line has been crossed. Those people aren't being punished for being drug addicts; they're being punished for being thieves.

Foley isn't being hounded because he screwed up when he was drunk, he's being hounded because he was trying to fuck underage kids.

Foley does a serious disservice to addicts genuinely suffering and/or trying to cleanup their acts by blaming it on alcohol.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 01:53 PM
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9. GOP = Gross Old Perverts
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 02:43 PM
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24. That one sounds even better.
Totally Gross.
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robbibaba Donating Member (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 03:25 PM
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37. I like Greedy Old Pedophiles
that's my vote.
I also like this slogan:
While not all Republicans are pedophiles, it does seem true that most pedophiles are Republicans.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 04:36 PM
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43. Another DUer here said "Guard Our Perverts."
I like it, however you wordplay it.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 11:57 PM
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57. Gropers Of Pages. n/t
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 01:53 PM
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10. what the HELL is "internet sex...?"
I mean seriously. Do you mean to say he interrupted a vote to masturbate? Or that he interrupted a vote to chat about sex with someone via IM? In either event, until someone figures out how to get their naughty bits into the broadband connection, there is no such thing as "internet sex."
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blazinjason Donating Member (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 02:10 PM
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11. This is internet sex:
This message was dated April 2003, at approximately 7 p.m., according to the message time stamp.

Maf54: I miss you
Teen:   ya me too
Maf54: we are still voting
Maf54: you miss me too

The exchange continues in which Foley and the teen both appear to describe having sexual orgasms.

Maf54: ok..i better go vote..did you know you would have this effect on me
Teen:   lol I guessed
Teen:   ya go vote…I don't want to keep you from doing our job
Maf54: can I have a good kiss goodnight
Teen:   :-*
Teen:   <kiss>

moreXXXXX RATED (not for our family friendly website)
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 02:45 PM
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26. WOW! The exchange was so explicit that they had to censor it on the site?
Wow, it must be really disgusting because what we have read so far is really vile. I'm not sure I can stomach any more of this....

And now we can also add the charge of supplying minors with alchohol....Wow, this man was out of control!

Don't you all just feel so good knowing how this Republican Congress has been running the country's business? :puke:
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Blaq Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 04:26 PM
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42. Alcohol to minors?????
He should be sent to Gitmo!
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Rocknrule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 09:37 PM
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60. EWWWWWWWWW!
Anyone who votes Republican is pro-child molestation, period. You hear me, lurkers?
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 02:15 PM
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13. He was procuring booze for minors too
According to another message, Foley also invites the teen and a friend to come to his house near Capitol Hill so they can drink alcohol.

Teen: are you going to be in town over the veterans day weekend
Maf54: I may be now that your coming
Maf54: who you coming to visit
Teen: haha good stuff
Teen: umm no one really

Maf54: we will be adjourned ny then
Teen: oh good
Maf54: by
Maf54: then we can have a few drinks
Maf54: lol
Teen: yes yes ;-)
Maf54: your not old enough to drink
Teen: shhh…
Maf54: ok
Teen: that's not what my ID says
Teen: lol
Maf54: ok
Teen: I probably shouldn't be telling you that huh
Maf54: we may need to drink at my house so we don't get busted

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Danieljay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 02:23 PM
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17. its just another form of sexual addiction and compulsion....
There are 12 step programs specifically for that. SAA, SLAA, SA etc. More than likely, Foley is a 'sex addict' and his new recovery program includes this. There are several treatment facilities throughout the country for this very thing. The man needs to be held accountable for his actions and seek treatment if he hasn't already.

Good chance he has a history of porn, prostitutes, and promiscuity in his 'second life'. Its more common than you might think. It's now estimated that up to 15% of the population has issues with sexual compulsion and addiction.

We are a nation of addicts. Food, sex, prescription drugs, illegal drugs and alcohol, gambling, etc. My partner is a physician and I have begun work as a hypnotherapist and its amazing how many people have issues with addiction in all its forms.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 11:56 PM
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56. Stop it. Stop it now.
I know that many pedophiles will say that it is an addiction---whatever, I don't give a rats ass. The reason that I don't give a rat's ass is because addicts usually tear up their own lives and it is horrible to watch. But what a sexual preditor does is fucking evil and ruins other people's lives.

Stop conflating addiction with sexual predators. I've seen you post this shit too often tonight and it is making me fucking ill.
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Danieljay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 11:21 PM
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58. I didn't say it was an excuse. I said it was an addiction. Most sexual
Edited on Wed Oct-04-06 11:53 PM by Danieljay
predators are sex addicts. Thats a fact. And if you don't think non sexual addictions ruin other peoples lives beyond the addicts' you know nothing of addiction, especially sex addiction. Just like an alcoholic or drug addict is unable to stop using, sexual addicts are unable to stop their destructive sexual behavior resulting in family breakups, abuse, financial disaster, loss of job, and risk to their own life as well as the lives of others.

Your insinuating that I'm making excuses for predators. You're wrong. And if you read carefully what I wrote you will now get that. If, by chance, you still find yourself writing stories about my intentions write this one instead: Predators should be held accountable for their actions, there is no excuse for their behavior. There is however, an explanation, and I've just provided that. Plain and simple.

And by the way, if it you want to feel better, and you know you do, perhaps you might give yourself a dose of "feel good" medicine and actually take a close look at the question I was responding to. I was responding to the woman who asked "what the HELL is internet sex?" if that makes any difference.
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 02:26 PM
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19. Exposing myself as out of the loop now...
I have to agree Mike C...I know what it is--I have read all the pervert scumbag Foley IM's (and IMO he should be jailed) but I have to say I don't get what the hell people find so intriguing about typing sexy sounding type crap onto a keyboard.

Oh well what the hell do I know! lol
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 03:12 PM
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33. To each his/her own
My late husband was addicted to pornography. Every time I confronted him about it and asked him what he found so attractive, he had no answer. He was an otherwise decent, dependable, loyal, hard-working individual, but couldn't seem to resist spending lots and lots and lots of money (which we didn't have) on magazines and videos.

Thankfully, he hated computers and never learned to get on the internets.

So I'm not sure that most addicts really themselves understand the process of attraction. Most of us have various attractions, either to movies or music or art or books or whatever, but we're able to control our actions. The addict isn't really so much different from us except that he/she doesn't have that ability to control.



Tansy Gold, addicted to books.. .. of all kinds. . ..
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 03:21 PM
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36. He would have saved money on internet porn
Just sayin'...
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 02:44 PM
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25. Rofl!
:rofl:
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 05:37 PM
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44. Refers to "typing with one hand".
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 10:38 PM
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51. C'mon be inventive...LOL!
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 02:13 PM
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12. does this mean he was using a computer that was in the capital
building? if so, doesn't that mean he was using government issue materials, kinda like when Al Gore was using government telephones to make campaign calls hummmmm?:shrug:
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 09:57 PM
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50. yes, i think we deserve to know if he was masturbating on public property
while having cybersex with an underage page, on our dime, using tax-paid computer equipement.
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last1standing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 02:17 PM
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14. This just sunk the lot of them.
Before this came out the repubs, like snowjob, could call them "naughty emails". Now the crime of child endangerment has been committed, and admitted to, by foley. The fact that the repub leadership willfully ignored the situation is now not only laughable but criminal as well. They knew something was happening and by law had an obligation to investigate. There will be no way for them to deny it.

After all the tears and apologies are done, I hope these monsters rot a long time in jail.
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 02:20 PM
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15. Contributing to the delinquency of a minor
Not just soliciting a minor for internet sex, but knowingly offering to procure alcohol for a minor. These are potentially serious charges.

I am horrified to read those e-mail exchanges, but not particularly surprised. These people are after power, whether it is power in politics, or power over vulnerable minors.

They abuse these young people, just as they abuse people of color, the poor, women, people from other countries, people with different belief systems, people of different sexual orientations, people of opposing political parties, and so on.

Their entire political and psychological outlook is based on abuse. Look at how they are abusing the people of Iraq. Look how they abuse people via torture and warfare. Look how they screw people out of their hard-earned pensions at places like Enron.

The bottom line is that these people get off on hurting people who have less power than themselves.
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KayLaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 02:20 PM
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16. Well, Heavens to Betsy
No wonder he resigned so abruptly!
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 02:27 PM
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20. Wonder when last time someone as active as Foley had an aids test?
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 02:36 PM
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22. eeeuuuwww! This is so ....sticky!!! Bleck!!!
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bamacrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 02:41 PM
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23. How can someone in the public eye be so blantant and get away with it
for this long
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 02:50 PM
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28. New Foley Instant Messages; Had Internet Sex While Awaiting House Vote
October 03, 2006 1:22 PM

Brian Ross and Maddy Sauer Report:

Former Congressman Mark Foley (R-FL) interrupted a vote on the floor of the House in 2003 to engage in Internet sex with a high school student who had served as a congressional page, according to new Internet instant messages provided to ABC News by former pages.

ABC News now has obtained 52 separate instant message exchanges, which former pages say were sent by Foley, using the screen name Maf54, to two different boys under the age of 18.

This message was dated April 2003, at approximately 7 p.m., according to the message time stamp.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/10/new_foley_insta.html
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BrokenBeyondRepair Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 02:53 PM
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29. sick freaks
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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 02:53 PM
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30. I wonder if Billo and Rush will still excuse his "homosexuality"?
Yesterday they dismissed the whole thing as an attack on gays.
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 03:35 PM
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38. Yeah, you see when its Republicans doing it it's o.k. because
Edited on Tue Oct-03-06 03:35 PM by Freedom_from_Chains
they are doing it for Gawd. It's all part of Bushes grand plan or something like that.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 03:06 PM
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31. GOP = Genitals On Parade...
....measured your "organ" today?

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xyboymil Donating Member (404 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 03:11 PM
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32. OH MY GOD....Im speechles. Unbelievable.
THis is just disgusting on every level. This A-hole was voting on key pieces of legislation that could/would effect the kids fighting for our country in Iraq and accross the world.

All he gave a shit about was his perverted needs.

Hassert and co. all need to go.

:mad:
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Rebel_with_a_cause Donating Member (933 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 03:19 PM
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34. House voted that evening on HR 1559, Emergency War Time sup. appropriation
Emergency War Time supplemental appropriations

THIS is the GOP's definition of troop support? Jerking off during an emergency appropriations vote?

Fucking assholes, one and all.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 09:37 PM
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47. Thank you, my first question was what bill.
"Support the troops! Boff online juveniles!"

It keeps getting worse and worse and worse. Alternating disgust and laughter here. OMG how could he, how could they let him continue this? Then OMG he got caught and so did the people who knew! Then poor pages.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 03:21 PM
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35. And to think scum like Sludge is blaming the boys. nt
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cookiebird Donating Member (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:15 PM
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45. Foley...yech
He's tacky, rude & vulgar.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 09:55 PM
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49. if he had internet sex, he had real sex with someone underage. no doubt.
all these years around pages? NO DOUBT. just waiting for it to come out in the open... some page will spill the beans.
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 11:30 PM
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52. On a post further up here,
it was mentioned that Foley IM'd a kid and said he had to go to the floor and vote, and was he using the government computer for this. I think I heard it mentioned in the lawyer's presser today that they were preserving the evidence? Have not the authorities seized his computers or searched his home yet? Wouldn't they do that so that they can see what was going on? Or am I jumping the gun here? Does he have to be arrested first?
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LetsThink Donating Member (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 11:45 PM
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54. Translation of Legalese..... Foley's Lawyer said.......
Lawyer: "F. did not have sex with minors......"

That's b/c the def of a minor - in D.C.- is 'younger than 16'. Therefore, all 16 and up are not minors- all pages are at least 16.

Lawyer: "F. is not a pedophile"

Def. of pedophilia is sex w/ pre-pubescent or someone 13 or younger.....

Now-- we'll have a new definition: To pull a foley will be to do something really totally gross, abusive and generally horrid.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 10:59 AM
Response to Reply #54
59. but doesn't the bill that foley wrote and bush signed specifically say
"anyone under the age of 18"? This is the new internet bill just passed this past spring I believe.
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 09:41 PM
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61. Best not to jump the gun on authenticity. Remember Rove trick.
This "document dump" could be an attempt to muddy the waters by introducing false evidence, which in turn would call into question the original IMs. This could be right out of the Rovian playbook. VERIFY PEOPLE!

J
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