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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 03:06 AM
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North Korea threatens to shoot down U.S. spy planes
http://feeds.bignewsnetwork.com/?sid=499a5652f1cb8356

North Korea claims the United States is using spy planes to ready an attack and said it will shoot the planes down if it continues.

The Korean People's Army Air Force Command said a U.S. RC-135 plane flew over North Korean waters Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday -- evidence the United States plans to attack the country, the BBC reported Sunday.

The United States didn't comment on the allegations, which North Korea makes on a regular basis.

The North Korean Air Force said the U.S. flights violated its sovereignty and threatened to shoot it down if they continue.
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 03:10 AM
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1. next step : a North-Korean will commit suicide
and this will considered as an act of war....
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 03:13 AM
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2. Nah, someone'll get bombed and *that'll* be called one
"This hideous, evil enemy destroyed one of our 500-pound bombs in a terrible act of sabotage! That he himself was killed in his successful attack on the defenseless ordnance will not undo the damage!"
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 03:25 AM
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3. Iran or North Korea or BOTH
Bush is trying to kill as many troops as he can :grr:
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 04:06 AM
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4. Over water?
Well, considering North Korea's arrogence and general insanity, they probably consider the entire Pacic Ocean "North Korean waters" for the purposes of military posturing.

Let's just hope that the Crawford Village Idiot doesn't trot out his "bring 'em on" line. If Kim Jong-Il nukes Tokyo, Beijing, and Seoul, the world economy will collapse into ruin.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 02:21 PM
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5. Yours is a typical imperialist response.
N. Korea, like all non-landlocked countries, has a legally-recognized boundary incorporating its territorial waters. Do you think that the U.S. would tolerate, for instance, Chinese spy planes over its territorial waters?

Who is surrounding whom with military bases, spy planes, and all manner of missiles? N. Korea has not one single foreign base, while the U.S. occupies many hundreds of bases all around the world. The U.S. occupies Iraq and Afghanistan, but N. Korea only defends its borders. Who is guilty of "insanity?"
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saskatoon Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 05:33 PM
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6. I say Hurrah for David 77"s
A voice of reason and sanity!
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INDIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 05:49 PM
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7. I'd say
the leaders of N. Korea are VERY guilty of "insanity".
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 05:59 PM
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8. Erm
IIRC, most nations adhere to 12 miles as territorial waters. NK constantly bellows 200+.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 06:10 PM
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9. What does the U.S. claim?
Edited on Mon Jun-12-06 06:13 PM by daleo
Just out of curiousity?

On edit: I found something:

The UN-sponsored Law of the Sea Treaty, which went into effect in 1994, codified territorial waters of 12 nautical mi (13.8 mi/22.2 km) and an exclusive economic zone of 200 nautical mi (230 mi/370 km). In 1999, U.S. agencies were empowered by presidential proclamation to enforce American law up to 24 miles (39 km) offshore, doubling the previous limit.

http://www.answers.com/topic/territorial-waters
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letsgonova19087 Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 06:18 PM
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10. Yeah,
except for that whole, you know, invasion of South Korea thing.

But lets not get bogged down in pesky details details.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 06:21 PM
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11. Well, that did happen 55 years ago
In an entirely different geopolitical context.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 06:29 PM
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12. Lets consider those details
The US took over south korea in 1945, put sygmun rhee in power and left in
power all the japanese "nazis" when they denazified germany. This left the
popular impression after years, that korea was simply being transferred to
a different administrator, one that supported the japanese and what they did.
This was so deeply unpopular, that had the north not invaded, most historians
will admit, that theere was an extreme likelihood of an all out rebellion to
finally free korea of the japanese occupation.

Those pesky little details paint a less black and white picture of what war
crimes are whose. And this leaves out entirely the agreement that TR made
with the russians in 1908 to give korea to japan as their own colony to rape
and pilliage, which they did with nanking effiency and brutality for decades.

Wow, we're just innocent saint protectors over there.... :eyes:

We should be out of korea, but it does provide a good historical case for how
the US army never leaves the scenes of its crimes... even after 55+ years.
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