Gonzales Denies More Extensive Domestic Spying (Washinton Post)

[Up2Late]

(I believe him, when has Al ever lied to us?) :spray:

Gonzales Denies More Extensive Domestic Spying

By Charles Babington
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, March 3, 2006; Page A04

Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales told a key House Democrat yesterday that the administration is not conducting any warrantless domestic surveillance programs beyond the one that President Bush has acknowledged, the Democrat said in an interview.

Rep. Jane Harman (D-Calif.) said Gonzales was responding to a fax she sent him Wednesday after she read a news account of his Feb. 28 letter to two senators. In the letter, Gonzales appeared to suggest there might be domestic wiretap operations that extend beyond the outlines Bush acknowledged in December. Gonzales asked to clarify his Feb. 6 testimony that the president's acknowledged use of the National Security Agency for domestic surveillance "is all that he has authorized." "I did not and could not address . . . any other classified intelligence activities," Gonzales wrote to the senators.

Harman, the ranking Democrat on the House intelligence committee, said she sent Gonzales a fax "seeking clarification about his written testimony, which has left room for the possibility of an additional program or a broader program" of surveillance without court approval.

White House counsel Harriet Miers called Harman on Wednesday, and Gonzales phoned yesterday, Harman said. She said both of them "assured me that there is not a broader program or an additional program out there involving surveillance of U.S. persons."

(more at link below)

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[truthisfreedom]

1. professional liars.

our current administration is a mafia.

[Born Free]

9. keywords "domestic spying"

they try to make it sound like ..oh we just happened hear or see this - democrats need to use the "domestic spying" every chance they can and keep Americans in tune with what the bush team is doing

[wake.up.america]

2. This White House has lost ALL credibility. Is this any way to...

run a democracy?

[I_Make_Mistakes]

3. CYA, Get it in writing and parse every word like the Repub's do.

That's my advise to the Dem's, parse every word. That's what the Repub's do, if you question every word there can be various implications (other than the commonly used), and that's the way they operate. Once again, get it in writing.

[Up2Late]

4. Dick Cheney is very tricky when he talks...

...he often slips it things like: "I'd like to say...It was one of the worst days of my life..."

and "...If you will..."

Lot's of stuff like that.

[I_Make_Mistakes]

6. That's how they can shift things. I do crosswords and am always

amazed how many meanings common words have, I mean amazed!

My old BF worked for a publishing company and understood I love words, so he got me an Unabridged Dictionary and I had a field day.

If you look a the F word, it has paragraphs on meanings, all true and funny as Hell to see it defined!

[peacemon]

8. Tricky Dicky Cheney...with a Tricky, Ticky Tocky...:-)

[leveymg]

5. The professional parsing of the language extends to the WaPo.

The Administration has claimed that warrantless wiretaps never extended beyond a few thousand persons inside the U.S. suspected of communicating with al-Qaeda contacts abroad. That is a lie, but you wouldn't know it from reading this article.

Note that Babington writes his article in an ambiguous way, so as to let Gonzales off the hook. The wording of the report suggests that Harmann was inquiring about the existence of a broader ongoing wiretapping program. Babbington writes, "White House counsel Harriet Miers called Harman on Wednesday, and Gonzales phoned yesterday, Harman said. She said both of them "assured me that there is not a broader program or an additional program out there involving surveillance of U.S. persons.""

The fact is, however, that for three years, AT&T recorded every phone call and e-mail sent over its system -- an astonishing 300 Terabytes worth of data -- and turned it over to the NSA. This was done totally without warrants, and involves literally tens of millions of domestic calls and e-mails. See, Class-Action Lawsuit Against AT&TIn the largest "fishing expedition" ever devised, the NSA uses powerful ... that AT&T has given the government unfettered access to its over 300 terabyte ...
www.eff.org/legal/cases/att/


When the MSM lie, its by omission of the truth, which is another way of saying parsing of the facts.

[I_Make_Mistakes]

7. Actually, I am a serious person, I believe omission is just another

way of lying. If you mis lead by omission, then you do not value the truth and lie period.

The truth is the whole truth and nothing but the truth, the RW'ers in my life tell me that omission is okay, it's not. Once, you mislead, you lose credibilty. The problem is there are so many who professionally lie, and get away with it, they lose complete reality of the truth.

Apparently, they (most American's) are learning this message (trying to make a funny so help if I mess up), GWB "I you fool me once, I won't get fooled again!".

[hang a left]

15. So true. You have to read every word so carefully and find out

what they are trying to obfuscate. Then I have to read everyone's posts (like yours) to see what I missed. That is just when they are not flat out lying.

[salin]

10. How many months before a disclosure indicates that Gonzales has

"misled" Congress, again, and that the "misleading" was done in the name of National Security (and that those who made the new disclosure are traitors...)

[hang a left]

16. Or they launch a top to bottom investigation into the "leaker"

and that those who made the new disclosure are traitors...

[Gman]

11. "That I know of and can talk about"

is what he is saying

[wordpix]

14. and when it comes to indictment, like Libby, "I didn't know," & "I forget"

& "I couldn't tell Congress due to national security concerns."

[rodeodance]

12. maybe it is not a 'program'?

White House counsel Harriet Miers called Harman on Wednesday, and Gonzales phoned yesterday, Harman said. She said both of them "assured me that there is not a broader program or an additional program out there involving surveillance of U.S. persons."

[hang a left]

17. Or maybe it is not run by the NSA.

Perhaps the Pentagon has a "program". Or maybe it has been outsourced.

[Up2Late]

19. You might be on to something, they probably "outsourced" this...

...or have set up some "super secret" sub-agency by now.

Or they may have shifted work to another part of the "intelligence community," I think there are 76 "agencies" now, that fit into this category.

[librechik]

20. She should call up Russell Tice, who also testified

that there IS a broader program, that he has not been allowed to testify about. She can help him.

[wordpix]

13. Gonzo is just a water boy for BushCo & nothing he says can be believed

[MasonJar]

18. Who would believe anything they say?

[Up2Late]

21. kick n/t

:kick: