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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:38 AM
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Breaking News... Alaska Air Flight Emergency
Edited on Wed Feb-15-06 02:43 AM by Rainscents
DEVELOPING STORY:
Some passengers aboard Alaska Airlines flight 578 from Seattle to Denver were treated by paramedics after the jet make a safe emergency landing at Sea-Tac. The airline reports an alarm sounded indicating pressurization problems. Some passengers continued their trip on a replacement aircraft.

Link... http://www.komo4news.com/stories/41871.htm


Wasn't Alaska got rid of Union workers and replaced them with non-Union? I think Alaska Airline are having lot of problems since they went none UNION...off loaded to private contractors.

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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:54 AM
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1. Damn - again
Yes, Alaska replaced its baggage and ramp union workers with non-union and has had several incidents since then. Pressurization again. Scary stuff.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:29 AM
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2. Its unbelievable how bad this stuff is. I won't fly them until something
is done and they were THE BEST airline for many years.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:40 AM
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3. You need to send them an email and let them know how you feel.
My son works for another legacy carrier who has outsourced a lot of it's maintenance ops. He's told me many times of how the remaining maintenance crews have to FIX things these other guys missed or just plain screwed up!

You need to send an email to the Chairman, or investor relations people explaining WHY you will not fly with them anymore, and what they need to do to get you back.
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anitar1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:54 AM
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4. Alaska airlines has been on my no-fly list for some time now. n/t
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:37 AM
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5. No one will pay attention until they start falling out of the skies...
...until then, "it's ALL good for business!"
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:00 AM
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6. Alaska Air planes *DO* fall out of the sky!
They were the carrier with the 737 that crashed because the maintenance
crews had failed to properly lubricate the lead screw that operated the
tail rudder, IIRC.

Tesha
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SIU_Blue Donating Member (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 01:18 PM
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8. Yes, this is true, BUT!!!!....
If you are going to not fly any airline, on which a maintenance screw-up has caused a fatal crash, you will need to expand your personal no-fly list to include every major american carrier except Southwest (first fatal accident recently at MDW not maintenance related).

As much as I do not like the replacement of union workers with scrubs, you cannot justify this argument by citing a single accident, since these accidents have occured on most large airlines, union or not.

Also, Emergency Landings are more commonplace than you would think....and, depressurization may or may not be maintenance related.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 01:30 PM
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10. I'm sorry, but I guess I've forgotten the last time maintenance...
Edited on Wed Feb-15-06 01:48 PM by Tesha
I'm sorry, but I guess I've forgotten the last time deliberately
non-performed maintenance
caused a major's aircraft to fall out
of the sky.

An accident due to the mis-performance of maintenance was
United Airlines Flight 232 in 1989, where a crack in a turbine
blade went undetected, the turbine disk broke, and severed all the
hydraulic lines. But this was definitely not a case of deliberate
failure to perform maintenance but rather the way the maintenance
was performed. And of the 296 people aboard, 175 passengers and 10
crew members survived. The crash was eventually blamed on poor
attention to the human factors in United Airlines' specification
of maintenance processes.

Before that, there was American Airlines Flight 191 in 1979,
where it was maintenance performed in a short-cut fashion using
a fork-lift to remove and re-mount engines that caused the engine
to part company from the airframe, sever the hydraulic lines to
the wing slats, and kill everyone aboard.

One might also think about ValueJet's little problem with
oxygen generators, but that wasn't exactly a maintenance
problem and they were certainly not a "major" airline.

And then there's Aloha Air's 737, where they pushed things a
little too far in terms of airframe life, but that only killed
a single flight attendant, severely injured two others, and
mildly injured an additional 63. Again, not a major airline.

Alaska Air, on the other hand, simply didn't do the leadscrew
maintenance
because such work cost money and they could save a
few bucks by skipping it, even though everyone knew this maintenance
was needed to prevent the failure of the track nut. Too bad it cost
lives, huh?

The quality of maintenance performed on the aircraft is still a
very valid basis on which to select which airlines you'll entrust
your life to.

Tesha

(Who has had the excitement of flying out of
LAX and having AA's jet blow an engine on
climb-out, forcing an immediate return to LAX)
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 12:59 PM
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7. This was Yesterday
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 01:20 PM
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9. I just fly AkAir PSP-SEA and they had 3 firetrucks @ PSP
waiting on plane to finish loading and 3 firetrucks pull up outside, flashing lights and all. Relief when a person walked to baggage loading area with med kit. A baggage handler "hurt his or her leg" in the hold and had to be gurneyed off. I used to fly AkAir all the time because I liked them, but am definetly avoiding them since the union kickoff.
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LiberalGuy000 Donating Member (200 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 01:57 PM
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11. this is ridiculous
They're beginning to remind me of Aeroflot, the Russian airline.
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