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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 11:04 AM
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Bush Confident Surveillance Is Legal
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&u=/ap/20060126/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_74 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - President Bush defended anew his program of warrantless surveillance Thursday, saying "there's no doubt in my mind it is legal." He suggested that he might resist congressional efforts to change it.

"The program's legal, it's designed to protect civil liberties, and it's necessary," Bush told a White House news conference.

Democrats have accused the president of breaking the law in allowing eavesdropping on overseas communications to and from U.S. residents, and even some members of his own party have questioned the practice.

Asked if he would support efforts in Congress to give him express authority to continue the program, Bush cited what he said was the extreme delicacy of the operation. "It's so sensitive that if information gets out about how the program works, it will help the enemy," Bush said. "Why tell the enemy what we're doing?"

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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 11:05 AM
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1. Interesting.
He is protecting our civil liberties by violating them. :eyes:
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 11:09 AM
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5. Black is white, war is peace. So what else is new? 1984 is his playbook.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 04:42 PM
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24. With ScumBag Alito on his side
Any concept, doctrine or principle, no matter how ridiculous, fascist or demeaning will be OK

Except taking $$$$$$$$$$$ from the privileged class
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DKStreet Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 11:05 AM
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2. The Harriet Miers appointment makes a lot more sense now...
I see what he was up to. I'm sure it was her who gave him his legal advice on this matter.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 11:06 AM
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3. Is not!
Legal in the chimp's mind, but his mind is fucked up big time.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 11:08 AM
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4. Sure, ask the perp if what he did was a crime
Since there's no more separation of powers in the United States anymore, no more checks and balances between the co-equal branches of government, Bush serves as his own legislative, executive and judiciary. Things certainly are a lot easier in a dictatorship, aren't they?
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 11:11 AM
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6. Great! Let him say that!
So if he's got nothing to hide, he needn't fear an investigation. Right?!
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Kalisiin Donating Member (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 11:13 AM
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8. Exactly! One Only Needs Fear "A Fishing Expedition" If There ARE Fish!!
n/t
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 11:13 AM
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7. Wait until someone explains it to him CORRECTLY
He's surrounded by fascists who feed him this bullshit every day.

He never listens to, or acknowledges contrary information.

He never shows a true understanding of the facts.

And worst of all, he's just so simple-minded it just doesn't dawn on him that he's being lied to.
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Mithras61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 11:14 AM
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9. Can anyone explain to me...
why his claims that this is legal sound so much like "I didn't do it. No one saw me. You can't prove a thing."?

Beyond that, the claim '"The program's legal, it's designed to protect civil liberties, and it's necessary,"' is pure BS. The FBI wants the NSA to stop dumping their "intelligence leads" on the FBI because it's a huge waste of precious resources (and doesn't produce anything exclusive), and the "program" is a clear violation of either FISA, the Fourth Amendment, or both!
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 11:17 AM
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10. As if the dem "leadership" is going to object to anything Bush wants.
:puke:
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joefree1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 11:19 AM
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11. Bush has naked pictures of your Mama!
Can you prove he doesn't? With no "checks and Balances" we can pretty much accuse him of anything.

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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 11:25 AM
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12. God's TEETH. Does this fuckwit even know what the word "LEGAL" MEANS?

Apparently not.

You can CHECK whether or not it's legal, George. There's no mystery about it...
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 02:14 PM
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20. No.
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 11:43 AM
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13. Wonder how he'll feel when NATO Military Intelligence comes
clean and admits it had HIM under surveillance for the last 20 years....only didn't release its data to the public....
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 11:50 AM
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14. Everything you do is legal when you are omnipotent and unrestricted by law
What an arrogant asshole.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 12:08 PM
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15. Guess he can't read the US Constitution! Hey, stupid, you're violating
my constitutional rights!
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antonialee839 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 01:32 PM
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16. The murder monkey is always confident, and always wrong.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 01:41 PM
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17. Then junior should have no problem with an independent
special prosecutor to determine that legality.

p.s. if it was legal then he could have gotten a warrant.

p.p.s. bush is an habitual liar.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 02:03 PM
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18. Yeah, He Was Also Confident About WMD's, And Confident That Tax Cuts
would create jobs etc.
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 02:13 PM
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19. He gave conflicting statements.
He said, "I didn't break the law."

And he said they looked at the law and it did not allow him to do what he wanted to do.

The logical conclusion of those two statements is not that the spying was legal, but that Bush decided that the law did not apply to him.

It's a fine point, but an important one.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 02:51 PM
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21. "it's designed to protect civil liberties", Orwell was 20 yrs too fast
as my sig line says, war is peace, freedom slavery, ignorance strength. Amazing that anyone would believe this. Just amazing.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 04:30 PM
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22. So now * thinks he is a lawyer. He is a cowboy, you know -
one that is afraid of horses.
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 04:39 PM
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23. Bush also " confident" Earth was created in 7 days.... n/t
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madmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 05:22 PM
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25. lets get a judicial review of whether its legal or not
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BadgerKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 08:49 PM
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26. well, if it's safe for civil liberties
why not go the extra step to have the appropriate language added to Patriot Act bill?

Not that that matters anymore. * will just do another "signing statement" that excludes such language.
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 09:04 PM
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27. What's another signing statement anyways?
It's not like it will bring him over the total of the last three presidents.

Ronald Raygun- 71
POS* #41- 146
Bill Clinton- 105
Illegal POS* #43- 500+

Check this out:

--in 2003 lawmakers attempted to rein in *'s abuse of signing statements by passing a bill that required the Justice Department to inform Congress whenever *Co decided to ignore a legislative provision. * signed the bill into law -- but then immediately issued a signing statement asserting his right to ignore it. Ah, the nauseating poetry of it all.)--

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2006/01/25/notes012506.DTL&hw=signing+statement&sn=004&sc=623
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 09:13 PM
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28. Everything is a secret with this nazi.
If it wasn't against the law he wouldn't be defending it, trying to stop and investigation, trying to cover it up, and seeking congress to make laws for it to be legal.
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 09:14 PM
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29. Whew! That's a relief!!!
As long as he's confident, I'm good with this.

:sarcasm:
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wildwww2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 10:00 PM
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30. Just imagine a headline about Bill Clinton saying his illegal spying
was legal. The son`s and daughters of non-vote counting GOP sluts that own the media would have their lapdog pundits screaming impeachment to high heaven. Besides all the worthless rightwing bought and paid for politicians. We no longer live in any kind of democratic republic. When a fraudulent pResident can get away with breaking the law. And the last real President we had could not even get a blow job in private without getting impeached.
Peace
Wildman
Al Gore is My President
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SIU_Blue Donating Member (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 10:13 PM
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31. Pre-Law Undergrad confident Bush is Wrong
Pursuant to the fact that Bush said it.
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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 10:21 PM
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32. Did anyone see the press conference today? Smirky looked really nuts
I'm not kidding, he is coming totally unhinged.
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