Explosion at nuclear plant near St. Petersburg, Russia

[Bozita]

KGO Radio news.

No details .

[Newsjock]

1. off the ap wire

MOSCOW (AP)_Russian media are reporting an explosion at a nuclear plant in the region of St. Petersburg but say radiation levels are normal.

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

2. Normal for the real world? Or normal for Russia?

LOL.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

3. "Radiation levels are normal..."

For the Sun!

[nadinbrzezinski]

6. Readying it they had no leaks

now remember chernobyl...

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

8. I've painted one picture in my life.

Titled "Chernobyl."

Fwiw.

[norml]

4. Oops!

[nadinbrzezinski]

5. Chances of that going critical from details given

are non existent, now a dirty bomb effect, that is a whole different story

[gulfcoastliberal]

28. It galls me that the baby boom generation blew up half the south pacific

With their fucking thermonuclear bombs. And all those atmospheric tests in Nevada! What fucking morons. Pretty pictures, ugly ugly weapons. Being in my twenties, sometimes I say "thanks for the great world you and your generation gave us, dad. Don't expect any grandkids, I wouldn't subject them to this world." But that's only when he yells at at me for being too cynical.

[hedgehog]

30. That was't the baby boomers who did that.

That was their parents and grandparents. All of which explains the anger that erupted in the 60's and the 70's.

[gulfcoastliberal]

32. Thanks for the correction.

But those kids from the 60s and 70s tyrned into the Cheneys, Bushi and Rice that now infest our world.

[hedgehog]

34. Well, now you're talking about the boomers that drive me crazy

I'm a second half boomer. I was just a little kid all though most of it. I don't get upset by the Bush and Cheney types so much as I do with the self styled hippies who went on to turn into yuppies and who now live in gated communities. They took a vital moment in American history and frittered it away. Bush and Cheney can't help being what they are. These people should have known better. We had a chance back in 1968 and 1972 and the spoiled kids just blew it away to get back at their folks. When they got tired of being rebellious, they grabbed their MBAs and rejoined the monied classes.

[daleo]

40. I am a second half baby boomer myself

With older siblings that were first half baby boomers. They didn't turn into yuppies, just regular working citizens. I think these generational generalizations are dangerous on two points:

- they don't fit the majority of members of any given generation.
- they divide people on a mostly irrelevant axis.

Social class is, was, and always will be the relevant political element, in my opinion. And that is mostly stable from generation to generation, although sometimes with a slow upward or downward drift over time.

I should add that racial, religious, national, ethnic, and gender issues also can be important, but usually they intersect with social class issues. I know, I sound like a Marxist.

[redqueen]

43. "Bush and Cheney can't help being what they are."

Utter. Bullshit.

:puke:

[gulfcoastliberal]

46. I apologize! Sorry for the stereotyping! EOM

[Xipe Totec]

39. That's a mighty fat brush you have there.

Kind of hard to paint inside the lines, dont'ya think?

You're splashing friends and foes alike.

[hedgehog]

41. Sorry

I'm just old enough to remember the kids who worked so hard with Gene McCarthy and Bobby Kennedy to try to end the Viet Nam War only to see it go down the drain one night in Chicago. I know too many people around my age who were counter-culture in their twenties who show me pictures of their retirement homes (i.e. mini-mansions) now. Like I said, Bush and Cheney were indoctrinated in the cradle (I can just hear their grandparents railing against "that man" - Roosevelt) so it's no wonder they're trying to turn back the New Deal. The baby boomers know better, though, and too many live in a pretend world just like the parents they rebelled against years ago.

[gulfcoastliberal]

48. I apologize! Sorry for the stereotyping! EOM

[gulfcoastliberal]

47. I apologize! Sorry for the stereotyping! EOM

[drm604]

44. They also turned into people like me,

a lot of other DU'ers and the majority of my DFA group, to give just a few examples. Every generation has it's troublemakers, but they don't reflect on the whole generation. There are plenty of 20 and 30 something freepers but I would never indict a whole generation based on them.

[gulfcoastliberal]

49. I apologize! Sorry for the stereotyping! EOM

[karynnj]

45. and the Clintons, Kerrys, Clarks, etc

Cheney, Bush and Rice have all disavowed being part of the 60s.

[gulfcoastliberal]

50. I apologize! Sorry for the stereotyping! EOM

[Newsjock]

7. link here

http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/mld/ledgerenquirer/news/world/13419192.htm

Report: Blast rocks Russia nuclear plant
Associated Press

MOSCOW - An explosion ripped through a smelter at a nuclear power plant in northern Russia but radiation levels were normal, Russian media reported Friday.

The news agency RIA-Novosti, citing the state nuclear agency Rosenergoatom, said the blast occurred on Thursday in the northern Leningrad region, whose chief city is St. Petersburg.

It said that the smelter was located in the plant's second unit. A unit generally contains a reactor. Radiation levels were normal, the news agency said.

more:
http://www.cbc.ca/cp/world/051216/w121608.html

The news agency, citing the state nuclear agency Rosenergoatom, said the blast occurred on Thursday at the Leningrad nuclear power plant. It said that the smelter was located on the territory of the plant's second unit. Three people were injured in the blast and the second unit was shut down, RIA-Novosti said.

It also quoted the Emergency Situations Ministry as saying that the blast had occurred outside the nuclear plant, in an industrial zone in the city of Sosnovy Bor. The ministry said that two of the three people injured had burns over 90 per cent of their bodies.

[Bozita]

9. Smelters: normal parts of a nuclear power plant?

[nadinbrzezinski]

13. If it is outside, the plant

no problem, those poor folks with 90 percent BSA are probably going to die soon, not a nice way to go...

[shockingelk]

14. can't find anything from google

Doesn't appear to be a common name for something in a nuclear plant.

The reports are contradicting themselves - they say it was "at the plants shut down second reactor" and also that it took place in a town "near" the plant.

[Theduckno2]

15. I believe that smelters are big energy users and may be located

near the power source to reduce on transmission costs (line losses). That may be why there was a smelter in the adjacent industrial park. It is heartening to hear the reactor was shut down, but like most of the posters here, I am still very dubious.

[shockingelk]

17. Bingo - news report

The explosion happened on Thursday at a metals smelter near the Leningrad Atomic Power Station, where the second reactor has been under repair since July, reported RIA Novosti and Interfax news agencies.

http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/swissinfo.html?siteSect=143&sid=6322837&cKey=1134716724000

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

10. "Raidiation levels are normal."

Twice in a 75 word blurb.

I'm a believer.

[Redroach]

11. Need critical help?

Gotta go check out my copy of "My Pet Goat" for guidance.

:wtf:

[bluestateguy]

12. Their expert technician is hard at work now

[shockingelk]

16. Bloomberg: Russia Says No Blast at Nuclear Plant

Russia Says No Blast at Nuclear Plant; Cites Technical Problems

Dec. 16 (Bloomberg) -- Russia's Nuclear Energy Agency denied a report of an explosion at an atomic power plant near St. Petersburg, saying however the plant is having ``problems.''

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000085&sid=a1zDj7rCgbeI&refer=europe

[ECH1969]

18. Russia denies Nuclear Power Plants Existance

Russia tells people to go back to sleep.

[nadinbrzezinski]

19. they are back to normal

don't worry we have the same problem, air around the towers is safe, no need for respirators, and no BSE either.

[CornField]

22. Hey, they have Baghdad Bob!!!

I've been wondering where that guy went.

[tanyev]

24. Emily Litella: Never mind.

[Peace Patriot]

20. And the person keeping a watch on all that, on Russian nuke materials

and weapons, Valerie Plame--the CIA's counter-proliferation expert, head of a wide network of covert agents and contacts, 20 years in the making, with the front company Brewster-Jennings--was outed by the Bush junta, and her life and the lives of everyone in her network put in jeopardy. It is just mind-boggling what these traitors and criminals have done, that is of no consequence to our war profiteering corporate news monopolies.

[SmileyBoy]

21. Keep us updated!!!

Hopefully it was actually outside the nuclear plant, like one source was saying.

[flordehinojos]

23. this happened once before in Russia--was it Chernobyl?

They had to evacuate the town and close the plant--and there was nuclear fall out that floated out to the rest of the entire world.

Just how much nuclear fall out will endanger the world this time? and what will happen to that area of Russia where the explosion occurred?

[LisaL]

25. Chernobyl is not in Russia.

But Leningrad's nuclear plant is the type of construction as Chernobyl.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

27. The Chernobyl nuclear power plant was in the city of Pripyat located....

...in the old Soviet Union in 1986, the year that Chernobyl had the nuclear accident.

The old Soviet Union did not start to break up until 1985, a process that was completed in 1991. In 1991, Ukrainian independence was declared.

[flordehinojos]

33. thank you .....

:)

[hedgehog]

31. It was under control of the old Soviet Union when it happened.

Now it's part of Ukraine.

[flordehinojos]

35. thank you. O:-)

:)

[jokerman93]

26. IF

If fuel depots in England and nuke plants is Russia are blowing up because of human sabotage, would anyone admit t publicly?

A rhetorical question.

[daleo]

38. Sabotage is only meant to be a frightening hypothetical

It can never be admitted as in the actual world of political leaders and national security.

Two exceptions:

- when it is too obvious to lie about.
- when it can be yoked to a political agenda with a good prospect of success.

911 is the ultimate manifestation of this.

[Hyernel]

29. What's russian for: "D'oh!"

[ret5hd]

37. D'ohski?

[mikelgb]

36. Have you heard?

There's a rumor in St. Petersberg....:nuke:

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[tinfoilinfor2005]

51. I will be in St. Petersburg in three months. Does this mean

I will be glowing when I return? :hurts: