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NeoConsSuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 09:24 PM
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Rumsfeld hints at more troops in Iraq
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Coming off one of the deadliest months for American troops, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld indicated that the number of U.S. forces in Iraq could rise temporarily as Iraqis prepare to vote in mid-December parliamentary elections.

"We have had a pattern of increasing the number of coalition forces during periods when there was an expectation that the insurgents and terrorists would like to try to disrupt the political process," Rumsfeld told Pentagon reporters.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/11/01/rumsfeld.iraq.ap/index.html

Rummy, you've been throwing us this bullshit line for almost three years now.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 09:25 PM
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1. He is out of his mind. There's no other explanation. nt
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pokercat999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 10:31 PM
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7. His Xmas present to the troops.
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pfitz59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 09:27 PM
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2. Send his kids and grandkids!
They should be the first to go!
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 09:27 PM
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3. Hey Dumbsfeld.... you have turned the Iraqi people into "terrorists"
and enemies of Amurka... real enemies... enemies who now hate us enough to strap on some C-4 for a day out.... you pathetic piece of crap.

The truth is coming out now on CSPAN.. and you are soon to be a footnote in the pages of history...
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 09:30 PM
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4. haven't we already done that?
i recall recently reading where the troop levels had already been raised.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 09:30 PM
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5. Time to give Rummy a gun. He sure as hell is not a leader. Send him in.
:bounce:
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 09:36 PM
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6. -snip-
Rumsfeld and Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said they expect insurgents to expand their attacks as the elections approach...


Iraq has more "approaches" than LAX. :eyes:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 10:32 PM
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8. Precious! "Iraq has more approaches" than LAX! LOL!
And Rummy is an evil rube who should have retired when he asked the blivet for permission.
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 10:56 PM
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9. I loathe and detest every member of the Bush Cabal...
They are evil, corrupt, money grubbing, sociopaths, every single one of them. They send our troops into a hellhole that THEY created...Iraq did not attack, nor did it threaten us. This was a war of choice, which they wanted for a number of reasons, none of which are valid or moral.

These people have done more damage to America in the last 5 years than I can even imagine. They need to be removed from office, tried, and in prison for their crimes. The worldwide suffering they have caused is mind blowing. I know I sound like I'm using hyperbole, but truly, the depths of their evil, and the harm they have caused the world is beyond my vocabulary to describe.

That our country, the USA, has been usurped and used as the instrument to so damage the world is something which causes me deep shame, and every lasting regret that we were unable to stop them.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 11:22 PM
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11. We all do, and your passion is...passionate! So
your next step is to enjoy what's going on and do something!
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 10:59 PM
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10. Yeah, and never reducing them
Don't we have 161,000 over there now...the most since the invasion?

Some fucking pattern, dipshit.

The pattern seems to be obvious: the insurgents control the whole of the Sunni Triangle, the US military clears some town, then the insurgents once again control the whole of the Sunni traiangle, rinse and repeat.

So go pattern yourself, Rumsfeld, you motherfucker. History will remember your catastrophe.
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Charles19 Donating Member (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 06:04 AM
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16. We have the most troops there now.
A number of our troops will probably be fighting in Syria soon without us even knowing. Heck they probably have been for a long time.

My guess is that is why they will need more. They don't really care if Iraq is in chaos and never will. It doesn't look like it was ever an objective of this campaign.

Maybe they are entertaining the idea that if Sistani is to call for the troops to leave they will use Syria action as an excuse to stay. Wow, that will be ugly. Shi'ites and Sunni's fighting the US, with the US fighting the Syrians, ugh.
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4dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 07:59 AM
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20. I heard we had 157000 troops over there
I was rathers surprised at that figure. I though we ony had about 135,000 troops there so there's been a quite increase over the past 6 months..

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ngGale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 03:14 AM
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12. Already done this once...
it doesn't matter, just like Vietnam - we send in 200,000, they will send in 300,000. Stop the damn war, Rummy - you piece of sh**!
I'm tired of our kids dying...send yours.:nuke:
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Peter Frank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 05:26 AM
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13. Riduculous...
...the timing is all wrong. The time when an overwhelming force would be effective is long over.

Rummy tried to do this misguided deed on the cheap. He failed. We need (now as before) an international coalition of peace. Bush (in his arrogance) blew the chance for a war coalition long ago.

As long as our "leadership" is so pride driven as to tell the rest of the world to butt out of our risk/reward policies -- we Americans will bear the pain of knowing how wrong...
...you know.

Let's just get these patently unpatriotic people out of power.
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 05:44 AM
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14. Doesn't this asshole need permission from them sovereign Iraqis...
to escalate the number of troops in their sovereign country????
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 05:53 AM
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15. Who is paying for the Iraqi Puppet Govt.?
If US/UK troops were to pull out how long would this Iraqi Govt. last? I suspect maybe a month. The puppets would be hung or shot. That is why the so called Iraqi Govt has requested the UN to support the US/UK Occupation.
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Charles19 Donating Member (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 06:05 AM
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17. Puppet gov't doesn't want to lose their paychecks either
Which is the American Taxpayer.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 09:24 AM
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24. Excellent point. We have installed a puppet government ...
with no sovereignty or power whatsoever. Anyone who believes in this sham war is a goddam idiot. Anything we put in place will evaporate the minute we leave. All we will have from this war is a lot of grave markers. Just like Vietnam - another war for corporate profits.

Cheney has made $ 8 milion dollars on his Halliburton stock since the war began - quite amazing after he told the American people that he had "completely severed all financial ties" with the company.

The idiots that still blindly support this corrupt cabal are traitors.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 07:56 AM
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18. I posted here Sunday about my inlaws seeing trucks and
equipment on its way through a port, and hearing about 20,000 troops being deployed from Killeen (Ft Hood) here in TX. The first group that left was putting together the living facilities with KBR, so this must be an additional 20,000, not a rotation, if they have to build more facilities for them
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 07:57 AM
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19. "Just a handful of dead-enders'
somehow that description more fits the neo-cons than the insurgents.

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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 08:11 AM
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21. The number of troops is 161, 000 Right Now!
The highest number since the start of this outrage! :grr:
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 08:12 AM
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22. Throwing more bodies on the fire. n/t
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soup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 08:40 AM
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23. I've become so damn cynical
that I have already partially tied this into the mid-term elections in the U.S. next year.

Setting up for bringing home - oh, say, 20,000 - 30,000 troops - late summer due to the 'rousing success' of staying the course in Iraq. That'll teach us nay sayers.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 12:15 PM
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25. Notice how they raise the limit during these special times, but...
fail to draw them down later. It's mission creep or otherwise known as, covering their collective asses because they put in to few soldiers at the start of the colossal mess.

So when the final total reaches somewhere around 250 - 300,000 soldiers, they will feed us the line, that they intended to put that many in all along.

You know, looking at the miserable numbers in recruiting and the rumsfeld SMALLER faster army and the demand for more troops over their, it appears as if this whole mess turned out to be the perfect storm for moron* and his room full of dopes.

We are seeing stealth escalation.
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