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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 11:59 AM
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Bush says Azzam (al Qaeda's #2 guy) death shows US Iraq strategy working

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N28304821.htm

Bush says Azzam death shows US Iraq strategy working

WASHINGTON, Sept 28 (Reuters) - President George W. Bush cited on Wednesday the killing of al Qaeda's Abu Azzam as a sign that the U.S. strategy in Iraq was defeating a violent insurgency, although he warned there will be more violence before next month's vote on a new constitution.

Azzam, who was shot and killed in Baghdad, was "the second-most wanted al Qaeda leader in Iraq," and a top lieutenant of insurgency leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, Bush said in his second speech in a week on fighting terrorism.

"This guy's a brutal killer," he said in the White House Rose Garden, flanked by three generals, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and Vice President Dick Cheney, who was using a walking stick after recent aneurysm surgery behind both knees.

"He was reported to be the top operational commander of al Qaeda in Baghdad. He is one of the terrorists responsible for the recent upsurge in attacks in the Iraqi capital, which is part of their campaign to stop a referendum on the Iraqi constitution," Bush said.

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Not Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 12:02 PM
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1. Does it seem like every one of the people we manage to take out
is the #2 guy.

Like a bank, they sure have a lot of Vice Presidents.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 12:29 PM
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7. More!
We know of one number one guy that has poll numbers as high as his I.Q.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 12:04 PM
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2. al Qaeda must have the flattest org chart in history

just look at how many "number 2" guys we keep killing. And every one
of them is "critical" to the organization. So the number of attacks
should have dropped dramatically over the last 3 years... right?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:55 PM
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21. Too funny
IF you take what THEY say with any truth.

BAM! Hey ____ is dead (looks around) do you want to be my second in charge?

Yeah SURE!

Okay
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tatertop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:40 PM
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31. brilliantly funny
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 12:09 PM
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3. "This guy's a brutal killer," he said
into the mirror

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tatertop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:42 PM
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32. He's using the giant red crayon; he means bidness!
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 12:10 PM
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4. "...the second-most wanted al Qaeda
leader in Iraq,..."

IN IRAQ and just think there were none B4 March, '03.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 12:12 PM
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5. Raises the question as to just what is the Iraq strategy
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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 12:25 PM
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6. I think it's to wait them out until they die of old age.
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 12:52 PM
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8. bush has a strategy? news to me. We got lucky on this one, if that.
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 12:56 PM
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9. well, who's the new number two?
This goes to show again that you can't "kill" terrorism. There's someone new in the number two spot, and whatever the dead guy was doing for al-quaeda, someone else is equally capable of filling his role.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 12:57 PM
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10. This guy?

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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 08:39 PM
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34. hah!
:rofl:
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TOOLZ Donating Member (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 12:57 PM
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11. of course it's working
if you kill all iraqis, you're bound to get the bad ones.

effective strategery!
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 01:02 PM
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12. The number one guy is Zarqawi?
Gee. What about Osama Bin Forgotten?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:57 PM
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26. *
* in Iraq that is IN IRAQ please remember that. Thank you now back to Ranger Dave and Fearless Freedom Five
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 01:02 PM
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13. and in other news---Bush is still insane.
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antonialee839 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 01:10 PM
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14. This doesn't show jack! Not to mention this is about the 50th
number 2 they've claimed to have killed or captured. The Monkey is insane.
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AusTexDem Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 01:19 PM
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15. How many # 2 guys are there?
seems like every couple of months they get one.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:56 PM
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24. Why can't we get #1? oh that's right
Zarqawi Eclipsing Bin Laden in Prominence
Wednesday, May 12, 2004
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,119700,00.html
In 1999, after being released from jail in Jordan, Zarqawi formed an alliance with bin Laden allowing Zarqawi to operate a training camp in Afghanistan for Arab fighters committed to the overthrow of Jordan's moderate monarchy.
During the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan, Zarqawi is believed to have been badly wounded in a U.S. airstrike and fled to Iran. Later, he ended up in Baghdad, where Saddam's regime allowed him to recuperate for several months after having his leg amputated.

But check out how CNN spins itself into the ground trying to cover for Bush five weeks earlier
Tuesday, April 6, 2004
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/04/06/us.zarqawi /
A U.S. official said Tuesday that al-Zarqawi traveled to Baghdad in May 2002 for treatment of a leg injury but, contrary to previous reports, appears not to have had a leg amputated. The official would not discuss the reason for the change in assessment.
Al-Zarqawi, an associate of Osama bin Laden, had been named by the Bush administration as an al Qaeda member who fled to Iraq from Afghanistan in May 2002 for medical treatment and then stayed to organize terror plots. He came to Iraq with about two dozen al Qaeda terrorists, according to the administration.
Before the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, President Bush, Secretary of State Colin Powell and other administration officials pointed to intelligence that they said suggested al-Zarqawi had had his leg amputated in Baghdad.

Unfortunately a YEAR before that report CNN said:
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/04/29/sprj.irq.terr...
Zarqawi was said to have received medical treatment in Baghdad in May and June of 2002 after being wounded in Afghanistan during the war. His leg was amputated, U.S. officials say, by a surgeon in Iraq.

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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 01:22 PM
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16. working, huh? 100,000 dead, and you get one bad guy? billions of bullets
and a trillion dollars in hardware trashed, depleted uranium poisoning an entire region of the world, and you get one aide to a bad guy? nice shot, bush.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 01:24 PM
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17. Myers acknowledged yesterday that it's really not a big deal
cause they've got an endless line of number 2 guys...
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:53 PM
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18. Bush warns about spike in Iraq violence

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-09-28-bush...


Do you get the feeling the world's spinning beyond their spin control?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:53 PM
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19. Bring 'em on
Right?
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:17 PM
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29. that's what he said....
'..."And our troops are ready for it."...
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SCDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:53 PM
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20. They're concerned about violence in Iraq all of a sudden
I thought that the Iraq war was good because "we are fighting them over there"
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VWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:56 PM
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25. Really???
Violence in Iraq? Who'd a thunk it?
:sarcasm:

Can he quantify a spike? How many more soldiers will never see their families again?
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Selteri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:16 PM
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28. Wow, I guess those last throws are really strong! NT
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FightingIrish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:55 PM
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22. Put Brownie in charge.
The worst he can do is blame it on everyone else.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 02:55 PM
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23. Do they know that no one takes this seriously?
The more Bush flogs their inflated story of Al Qaeda in Iraq, the more tempted people are going to be to look backward and question how real al Qaeda was in Afghanistan--and 9/11.

at least I hope so.
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pfitz59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:01 PM
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27. "....flanked by three generals,...."
"....Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and Vice President Dick Cheney....". Sure takes a lot to prop the little bastard up, don't it? Bush* can never stand on his own! He's a weak-knee-ed, draft-dodging cowardly weasel!
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:21 PM
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30. I went to one of those stupid gun-nut repuke sites yesterday...
to see if the morans were talking about their beloved chimp and his Posse Comitatus termination proposal. Nothing there, but I did see them talking about this lame story and how it doesn't appear anywhere on them "liberal" media websites.

They're so proud and stupid, they don't realize this is the 1000th #2 or #3 bad dude allegedly killed. They must have short memories because lame stories like this come out almost on a weekly basis.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 06:56 PM
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33. bush again proves bush is an unadulterated idiot.
Fucking asshole. Gawd DAMN but I hate stupid MFers!
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 12:15 AM
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35. Um, the guy was NOT the #2 guy
Edited on Thu Sep-29-05 12:15 AM by Lindacooks
The 'Second' Man

The slain Abu Azzam may not have been Zarqawis top deputy after all. Will his death have any effect on the Iraq insurgency?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9518556/site/newsweek


Sept. 28, 2005 - U.S. intelligence officials and counterterrorism analysts are questioning whether a slain terroristdescribed by President Bush today as the second-most-wanted Al Qaeda leader in Iraqwas as significant a figure as the Bush administration is claiming.

Gee, so much for your well oiled killing machine, chimp.
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