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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:19 AM
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Bush: 'No Idea' if Leaker Will Be Found
Edited on Tue Oct-07-03 11:21 AM by Snellius
President Bush said Monday he has "no idea" whether the Justice Department will catch the person who disclosed an undercover CIA officer's identity. "This is a large administration," he said.

But in a brief question-and-answer session with reporters, the president renewed his pledge to cooperate with the investigation to "come to the bottom of this."

"This is a town where a lot of people leak and I've constantly expressed my displeasure with leaks, particularly of classified information," Bush said. "I hope we can get this investigation done in a thorough way.
...
"I don't know if we're going to find out the senior administration official," Bush said. "I don't have any idea. I'd like to. I want to know the truth."

Bush said: "I have no idea whether we'll find out who the leaker is."

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=3...
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:20 AM
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1. So what he's saying is...
He's clueless

But we knew that
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el_gato Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:23 AM
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2. no leaker, no osama, no saddam, no anthrax attacker
hmmm... how convenient

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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:26 AM
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6. This administration
Edited on Tue Oct-07-03 11:26 AM by realpolitik
couldn't find their ass with a roto rooter and a copy of gray's anatomy.

Don't forget the WMD and the Yellowcake!
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judgegina Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:27 AM
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7. Did you see the skit on Saturday Night Live...
this past Sat. on Weekend Update? It was all about the things Bush can't find, including all those you mentioned and WMD, of course. The punch line: "His own butt with both hands and a flashlight." The audience roared with laughter.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:30 AM
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12. OMG! No!! That's too Funny! Really? They said that?
"His own butt with both hands and a flashlight."
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Drifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 12:02 PM
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30. That was good ...
Damn near woke up the Mrs. I was laughing so hard.

Cheers
Drifter
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amlouden Donating Member (198 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:25 AM
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3. sure
he knows who the leaker is, but he doesn't really care. it's just another problem for him and his re-election bid
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TNOE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:49 AM
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24. No shit
Hey welcome to DU amlouden :hi:

If he REALLY wanted to know (and he already does) - all he has to do is ask.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:57 AM
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27. Note: Bush* was NOT elected...
...and therefore can't be 're-elected'.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:25 AM
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4. No big deal, leaks happen all the time, what are ya gonna do?
Edited on Tue Oct-07-03 11:26 AM by Beetwasher
:shrug:

This spin has to be countered immediately. Leaks may happen all the time, but NOT treasonous leaks exposing NOC CIA agents and destroying networks of sources and informants. Those sorts of leaks are unnacceptable and for this bozo to shrug it off as if it's nothing special is disgraceful and dangerous to the security of this country.
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Kat 333 Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 12:44 PM
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40. I've noticed him repeating that
Edited on Tue Oct-07-03 12:45 PM by Kat 333
over and over. Too funny. As if this just happens everyday (or lets hope it will make it appear that way) - Such a pathetic idiot which never helps when you're a crook.

I think that it only calls more attention to the fact that it does Not. Oh what tangled webs we weave ...

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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:25 AM
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5. So, just what the hell does he know?
Certainly not where Osama is
can't find WMD
can't find Saddam
can't find Anthrax Killer
can't find evidence to convict Kenny Lay
can't find Energy Papers
can't find the parking brake to his brother's car...
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:28 AM
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8. bush is such a Tool. And bush is a slow leak himself.
And by Nov 2004 ..he is going to be completely Deflated.
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:28 AM
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9. Things Bush Can't Find
To quote Weekend Update on SNL

1. Anthrax assassin
2. Osama bin Ladin
3. Saddam Hussein
4. Weapons of Mass Destruction
5. The Leaker
6. His own ass with two hands and a flashlight

Things Bush Has Found

1. Tommy Chong's bongs


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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:34 AM
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17. Add to "Tommy Chong's bongs"...
In Middle New York the feds have found some "herbal combinations for cancer" and have busted an herblist for selling "snake oil"!
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:48 AM
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23. And whores in New Orleans
if you can believe that!
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enki23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:29 AM
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10. "but i sure as fuck hope not."
he said, under his breath.
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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:30 AM
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11. This may only fan the flames
There are people, even among conservatives and especially in the Company, or ex-CIA like Larry Johnson, who are burning mad about this incident. To hear this nonchalant attitude to such a back-stabbing crime will only fuel resentment.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:30 AM
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13. Yeah right
Why then are administration lawyers reviewing all info before it goes to the Justice Department? The admin will not allow the leaker to be exposed; chimpy the liar at it again.

In direct contrast to what chimpy said - Bill Kristol was on CSPAN this morning. Can't stand the guy, but he seemed to think it would be very easy to find the leaker; after all, we're not talking about a lot of people here.

Ha ha ha.

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amlouden Donating Member (198 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:34 AM
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18. justice
having the justice dept. investigating this is like the foxes guarding the hen house
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plcdude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:31 AM
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14. outrageous once again
polygraph everyone who has the ability to know this kind of information. Ask them if they did it or told others on the staff about Plame's covert status. It is outrageous that nothing has been done since this first occured and Schumer requested and investigation just days after this was illegally leaked and reported. We need to press the Senate and H of R on this. Is there a site that we can go to do to put the pressure on this?
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 12:31 PM
Response to Reply #14
34. republicans lie as easily as they breathe
polygraphs wouldn't do a damn thing
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Maine-i-acs Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:32 AM
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15. This is the same administration ...
That has given away our rights to privacy ... allowing As*croft et al complete unfettered access to our own phone records, cellphone signals, email logs, Internet browsing habits etc. all in the interest of national security.

Can't find out who made a phone call? Gimme a break.

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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:33 AM
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16. I KNOW WHERE THE LEAKER IS AT!!!!
Hiding in the same cave with Osama Bin Laden, Saddam Hussein, Dick Cheney and a pile of Iraqi WMDs.

They're all watching the returns for the California recall and having a good chuckle about the state of affairs in the US.

BTW - of course Bush knows we're not going to find who it is, you think Bush will turn in his campaign strategist Karl Rove? Pul-lease!!
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ignatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:42 AM
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19. What an arrogant little ass he is. First of all the
administation is not that Goddamned large. Secondly, he should have been all over this in July before there was time to Enron the evidence.

GRRRR!!!

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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:42 AM
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20. Bush's attitude testifies he definitely knows
This is sort of the rhetorical counterpart to "he doth protest too much". Bush doth protest too little. He keeps shrugging it off like it was just monkey business as usual.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:42 AM
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21. where's Bush's can-do spirit?
not like him to be so defeatist about something so important to him.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:45 AM
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22. Bush has no idea
period.


rocknation

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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:50 AM
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25. I know where The Leaker is, He's in the area around
Foggy Bottom and Bush*s Dad!

"...I've constantly expressed my displeasure with leaks, particularly of classified information," Bush said

Boy, I'm sure glad he's ON RECORD with that little claim. What, EXACTLY, have you DONE about that, bush*? Why have you had to CONSTANTLY express displeasure about leaks? Have you chosen persons that are so Un-American they don't know this already? How many TRAITORS do you have to remind daily?

fob
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diplomats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:53 AM
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26. That's the new WH spin
That the leaker will not be found. BTW, anyone notice Bush himself actually used the phrase "senior administration official"?
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jab105 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 01:01 PM
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42. yea, that was interesting...
nothing to see here folks, CA recall to report...

And yet 60% of people trust this guy?
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skip fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:57 AM
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28. He's setting us up. Over the weekend
someone told him it was Lewis (Scooter) Libby and he realized that went way too high and that stonewalling and lying are the way out. Thus . . . he's a goner. The coverup will crush him. 2 Republican administration in less than a half century! Boy!, the sky sure is blue this morning!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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Drifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 12:01 PM
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29. Isn't this an admission ...
that he has absolutely no control of what is going on in his administration ?

If this had something to do with his business dealings with Bin Laden, you can bet that he would find out who did it.

There are 2 ways to satisfy this.

1) Either stop the bullshit, and prosocute the leaker.
2) They lower expectations are prepare the American people for inaction

Guess which one there are pursuing ?

Cheers
Drifter
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 12:03 PM
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31. I expect the CIA to provide evidence.
It is the F-ing CIA after all. They are about the last people you want to cross. They may well have some very incriminating evidence perhaps even a taped conversation of the leaker in the act. If they are as pissed off as its been reported they may well wait for Bush or the leaker to do or say something damaging before the evidence suddenly surfaces. Giving them enough rope to really hang themselves. Heres hoping.
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 12:26 PM
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32. can you IMAGINE if this were CLINTON?????
pitchforks and torches on the WH lawn is what we would be seeing on the 24/7 "news" channels

but since it's Bush....

:grr:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 12:31 PM
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35. sweetheart
Clinton's head would have been on a stick if he had STOLEN THE F***ING ELECTION
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 12:29 PM
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33. he is such a F***ING MORON
:puke:
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Nottingham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 12:32 PM
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36. He Hopes they aren't found! What the Hell of Security is this
:bounce:
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 12:32 PM
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37. Cheney.
Cheney.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 12:37 PM
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38. They're beginning to STONEWALL
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 02:25 PM
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49. Tis OK, The CIA probably has the seige machines in place already
and the walls come crumbling down.... Better this way. The whole dispecable bunch will come down in a cover-up conspiracy instead of the token lackey falling on a sword. :evilgrin:

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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:28 PM
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51. Yep - stonewalling usually backfires spectacularly
Stonewall, Bush, stonewall!
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 08:51 PM
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57. Would that that were true!
But Ken Lay and Dick Cheney come to mind.

What this really is is * giving the finger to the public again. He tells boldface lies and his supporters just lap it up! Same ol' BS.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 12:38 PM
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39. Bush to media: "high ethics response of protect your sources - or else!".
Bush Expresses Doubt Leaker Will Be Caught
http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGA7VT16ILD.html

This seems to have a line that seems to signal to the press their marching orders

<snip>Bush turned the questions on reporters at the end of a Cabinet meeting. "You tell me: how many sources have you had that's leaked information, that you've exposed or had been exposed? Probably none."
"I don't know if we're going to find out the senior administration official," Bush said. "I don't have any idea. I'd like to. I want to know the truth."
But, Bush said, "This is a large administration and there's a lot of senior officials."
"I have no idea whether we'll find out who the leaker is, partially because, in all due respect to your profession, you do a very good job of protecting the leakers," Bush told journalists. <snip>

Sounds to me like our US Media whores got a loud message from Bush that Bush wants the high ethics media response of protect your sources - or else.


Not that our media whores are controlled by the right wing GOP - they just act that way.
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larryepke Donating Member (524 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 12:45 PM
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41. On the subject of leaks
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/06/international/06PREX....

The article from the NY Times concerns the White House plan to put control of the Iraq and Afghanistan missions in the hands of Condi Rice. Here's the intriging quote:

"The reorganization was described in a confidential memorandum that Ms. Rice sent Thursday to Secretary of State Colin L. Powell, Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld, and the director of central intelligence, George J. Tenet. Asked about the memorandum on Sunday, Ms. Rice called it 'a recognition by everyone that we are in a different phase now...'"

OK, so what about the leak of this "confidential memorandum"? Does this leak cause Boy George further "displeasure?" Of course not! It was intentional, and was done for political purposes.

Their indignation is selective indeed.
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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 01:08 PM
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43. Bush is really threatening other leakers like Wilson
It is clear that Bush considers Wilson himself the original leaker, who violated his mission. By saying he wants to crack down on ALL those who divulge unauthorized information (especially if it is embarrassing to the administration) he is actually directing his ire as much against anyone else who criticizes his policy as against whomever talked to Novak. This is a confession.
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2cents Donating Member (522 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 01:49 PM
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44. There were TWO leakers
It seems they (media, WH) are subtlely pushing the idea of a single leaker.

Bush said: "I have no idea whether we'll find out who the leaker is."

Even Novak, when interviewed by Russert, framed his answers in the singular.

I guess not finding one leaker is better than not finding two.
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 01:55 PM
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45. He's certain he'll find Osama, Saddam and WMD but not the leaker.
Edited on Tue Oct-07-03 01:56 PM by neverforget
:mad: :hurts: :grr: :argh: The first 3 will help him politically, the fourth will sink him.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 02:12 PM
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46. What a milquetoast response "...I'd like to." GEEZ.
It's only possible treason, that's all.

I didn't believe it either, til my husband came out and told me some verbatims, having just seen a clip of it. Then he hollered when it was on again and i saw it for myself.

Un-FRIGGIN-believable!!!! Totally stupifying!!!!!!
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 02:17 PM
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47. Oh, he KNOWS
The Busheviks will NEVER out one of their own.

Period.

Loyalty to the Busheviks is a much higher priority for these people than Loyalty to the Constituition of the United States.

Period.
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SideshowScott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 02:18 PM
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48. Well Bush is right about one thing...He has no Idea!
What leadership i tell ya! I expect this investagation will move slow like molassas..Like the 9/11 ivestagation, Anthrax, Enron, ect...Even if Bush does not know who the leaker is ( I really DOUBT it though ) he acts like he has no intrest if finding out who it is..Therby saying its perfectly OK for that kind of thing to happen. My god ill bet the C.I.A is even more pissed than before
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 02:38 PM
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50. Not "the leaker" Chim-Chim. It's "the Felon"
And a FELON who exposed an intel network critical to national security, as well.

Never let him "16 words" this.
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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:05 PM
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52. CBS news actually called them on this
Mentioned how fast the WH was all over the congress for a national security leak 2 years ago, yet ignored this national security leak for more than 2 months.
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et in Arcadia ego... Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 07:09 PM
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53. In other words, the White House Plumbers are going to fix the leak
to keep the truth from getting out. The 'Bush Doctrine' is pipe dope.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 07:32 PM
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55. The last time the WH plumbers went to work, Watergate was the result.
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Basurero Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 07:29 PM
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54. bush has no idea about anything.
His is the "No Idea" administration:

No idea about creating a sane energy policy.

No idea about insider trading.

No idea about fiscal policy.

No idea about 9-11.

No idea about Osama.

No idea about Saddam.

No idea about traitors in the White House.

Not a clue.


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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 08:35 PM
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56. You've got that right!
He did have an idea today though, that he would be able to work with arnold. The two goofballs together are sure to bury any and all information about Enron and Leakers etc.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:52 PM
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58. The CIA knows, and they are dealing with it
Expect Bush to go down, fairly soon, thanks to the CIA.

YEAH!
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:57 PM
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59. Naw, the chimp is never really in the loop, is he?
More fun that the CIA takes the puppetmasters down
and the chimp stands alone.
The chimp stands alone.
Hi ho the dairy oh!
The chimp stands alone.

Make the little weasle try to pull off his cocky routine with no one left to lean on. That would be sooooo sweet.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 12:09 AM
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60. Look...this isn't 'accidental'...
...Bush* is setting YOU up for what's coming: they're going to 'move on' and expect you to come with them. Don't agree? Tough shit. Welcome to New America.
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mw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 07:43 AM
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61. Thank God Bush didn't say he'd get him "dead or alive"
This leaker has NOTHING to worry about.

I mean, its not like Bush said he'd find him "dead or alive". Ooooooh! Then he should be REAL scared!
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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 08:15 AM
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62. Was Bush using the cover of the California election?
To admit that there was no way he was going to reveal the leakers name? He knew the press would bury this story? Nobody gives a damn and those who do can't do anything about it.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 08:22 AM
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63. Doesn't sound to convinicing
that he wants the leak to be found... or more importantly that people in his administration risked national security - making it more, not less, possible for terrorists to get (nuke related) WMD materials undetected (and thus unprevented). That latter fact is still woefully underplayed in many of the news items. Yes we now know that there was exposure of an undercover operative, and yes we sorta read somewhere that it was related to WMDs, and maybe we read that item that indicated a whole operation - and CIA front was compromised... but what is really important in the news is that BUsh said he wants to find the leak but doesn't know that he will. Boy for a man who claimed he could orchestrate the smoking out of Osama (and Saddam) - he sure looks incompetent - can't even 'smoke out' the persons in his own administration who crossed the line from dirty politics to outright riskng National Security. Honor and dignity my behind.
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