Repression worsens under Hu's leadership

[dArKeR]

Sixteen years since the bloody crackdown on Tiananmen Square, China's grip on dissent has tightened under the leadership of President Hu Jintao (???), disappointing those who hoped he might represent a more tolerant leadership.

From religion to the media, political activism to the Internet, Hu's regime watches all -- and silences all that challenge the Communist Party's authority.

Members of non-sanctioned churches risk detention, potentially incendiary chat rooms are shut down, newspapers are kept under a short rein and employees of foreign news organizations have been arrested and accused of spying. Last month, an international conference on democracy was canceled.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2005/06...

[Wright Patman]

1. This is exactly the form of government

the Chimperor and his banana brigades would like to institute in Amerika.

Unregulated Wild West-style capitalism alonside a repressive police state to keep the peasants in their place.

[still_one]

3. don't believe everything you hear

Unless you know the history of China, and have been there, do NOT be so harsh. Where China came from, and where they are today is remarkable. Most countries never would have survived what they went through in the 20th century, and not only did they survive, but they made exceptional progress.

Do not judge everything by U.S. standards. After all look at the moran who leads our country, which has led us into a war with Iraq, based on a lie, a huge deficiet, and essentially a corporate run America

[still_one]

2. why don't you talk about what happened prior to the culteral revolution

how arragont Chiang Kai-shek was. How he refused to unite against the Japanese when then invaded China. How much blood is on his hands?

How much free press really is in Tiawan?

The U.S. should stay out of Chinese internal affairs

[megatherium]

5. We should ask China to protect freedom:

freedom of religion, freedom of speech, and freedom to form independent labor unions and political parties. We should encourage both China and Taiwan to settle for a one state two systems solution along the lines of Hong Kong.

But I understand the terrifying history China has experienced: a civil war involving a religious leader that resulted in tens of millions of deaths (the Taiping Rebellion). So while I do not approve of their repression of Falun Gong and independent Christian churches, I can understand why they feel it necessary to control these sects.

And I understand the cruelty of the colonial powers and their treatment of China in the 19th and early 20th century. So we indeed have no right to interfere in Chinese internal affairs, and if we do press China to strengthen individual rights, we should make it clear that we do so out of friendship, not as an excuse to create antagonism or conflict.

China is industrializing with extreme rapidity. We must protect friendship with China because soon there will not be enough petroleum to fuel the Chinese economy and ours as well. This will lead to competition and possibly antagonism, and this could lead to war if the American people do not resist.

[Zorra]

4. "There is also a strong sense of corporate efficiency."

Ain't corporatist totalitarianism grand? It looks just like communist totalitarianism, and just like the fascist totalitarianism that Bu*h is instituting in the US.

China is still way ahead of us in repression, but the US republican RW is closing the gap very quickly.

[K-W]

6. China is way way behind us in repression.

In the US much more subtle and efficient forms of control are used.

[daleo]

7. "Repression worsens under Hu's leadership"

Repression worsens under whose leadership?
Yes that's right, under Hu's leadership.
But whose leadership is causing the repression?
Yes, indeed that is true.
What is true?
Well, I don't know about Watt.
What don't you know?
Yes, exactly.

And so on...

[Ravenseye]

8. Who?

[struggle4progress]

9. China tightens security around Tiananmen

Posted on Sat, Jun. 04, 2005

China tightens security around Tiananmen
CHUCK CHIANG
Associated Press

BEIJING - China tightened security around Tiananmen Square on Saturday to prevent memorials on the anniversary of the bloody 1989 crackdown on pro-democracy protesters. But in Hong Kong, tens of thousands of protesters staged a candlelight rally.

In Sydney, Australia, a Chinese diplomat who is seeking asylum emerged from hiding to address a memorial rally.

Tiananmen Square, the symbolic political heart of China, was open to the public. But extra carloads of police watched tourists on the vast plaza, where weeks of student-led demonstrations that drew tens of thousands ended in a military attack 16 years ago Saturday. Troops killed hundreds and perhaps thousands of protesters that day. <snip>

http://www.sanluisobispo.com/mld/sanluisobispo/news/118...

[struggle4progress]

10. Hong Kong Marks Tiananmen Anniversary

POSTED: 9:33 am PDT June 4, 2005
UPDATED: 11:48 am PDT June 4, 2005

HONG KONG -- Thousands of protesters in Hong Kong raised candles in the air and sang solemn songs Saturday to mark the 16th anniversary of China's bloody crackdown on pro-democracy demonstrations on Tiananmen Square, while security was tightened in Beijing to block any memorials there. <snip>

In Hong Kong, people holding candles filled an area the size of five soccer fields at Victoria Park -- the only large-scale protest on Chinese soil. Police estimated that 22,000 people attended the annual vigil, but organizers said the crowd numbered 30,000 to 40,000.

Many residents of the former British colony remain emotional about the Tiananmen crackdown because it happened just a few years before the city returned to Chinese rule in 1997. <snip>

http://www.thebakersfieldchannel.com/news/4569415/detai...

[Media_Lies_Daily]

11. "Repression worsens under Herr Busch's leadership".