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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 11:34 AM
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CNN: Judicial conforontation set in Senate
Edited on Thu Apr-21-05 11:42 AM by EOO
Read the last four paragraphs of this article, frightening!

It all goes back to the Repubs trying to block fillibustering of Bush's judicial nominations. Particularly this part:

"Activists plan a similar tactic this year, with Frist planning to deliver a taped message to Christian conservatives on April 24 who say Democrats are "against people of faith" for blocking Bush's nominees.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/04/21/filibuster.fight.ap/index.html
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 11:36 AM
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1. And we're supposed to worry about "winning back" these people?
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 11:37 AM
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2. This thing is going to backfire right in his face
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 11:38 AM
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4. I'm surprised people still take Frist seriously.
Especially after diagnosing Schiavo just after watching a two hour videotape.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 11:39 AM
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i think the "Vast majority" of thinking people don't
i guess he didn't read the story about Rick "man on dog" Santorum in the hill this morning.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 11:38 AM
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 11:39 AM
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7. Might want to edit your link to something more generic
it shows your email address when clicked.
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short bus president Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 11:39 AM
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8. I hope the IRS takes note of these churches
and their pointedly political activities.

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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 11:41 AM
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12. I have a feeling that...
Say Frist does make it through the primaries, I bet he would go down in flames just like Alan Keyes.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 11:47 AM
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14. Please.....
Take your personal information off of that site.
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 11:39 AM
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5. EOO, please change your subject line
It should match the published title of the article you posted. Other LBN posting guidelines can be found here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x87249

Welcome to DU! :hi:
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 11:43 AM
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13. Done.
Sorry, I'm new here. I dont know all the rules yet.
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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 11:39 AM
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6. Louisville, KY Vigil Planned this Sunday in Response to Justice Sunday
As you all no doubt know, the Family Research Council is sponsoring an event called "Justice Sunday-Stopping the Filibuster Against People of Faith".  The express goal of this program is to defeat the proposed filibuster of Bush's judicial nominees -- by bashing all opponents as, essentially, liberals who are against God, religion and people of faith.  

The event will be held this Sunday, April 24, 2005, 7:00 p.m. ET, at the Highview Baptist mega-church in Louisville, Kentucky.  There will be a national live simulcast  to interested churches and media outlets.  The star speaker will be none other than Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist of Tennessee, who has, with this shameless political action, abrogated any pretense of a belief in the separation of church and state and further demonstrated the right's willingness to exploit religion as a partisan political bludgeon.

Here's the FRC's Press Release (http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=PR05D09 ), which is filled with just a taste of the inflammatory rhetoric sure to be the key talking points of this theo-political event.  In addition to First, speakers include Dr. James Dobson, Founder and Chairman of Focus on the Family, Dr. Al Mohler, head of the Southern Baptist Convention, and Chuck Colson of Prison Fellowship Ministries at Highview Baptist Church.  (Remember Chuck Colson - Richard Nixon's special counsel, who also recruited a young John O'Neill to politically attack John Kerry?)

_________________________

PROGRESSIVE RELIGIOUS LEADER RALLY

I wanted to remind us all that - in response - a rally lead by progressive religious leaders is planned the same day (but a few hours earlier) in Louisville (details here: see http://www.clnnlc.org /):

Social Justice Sunday

WHAT: Social Justice Sunday - Faith and Freedom Vigil

WHEN: 2:30 pm, April 24, 2005

WHERE: Central Presbyterian Church
                   318 W. Kentucky St. Louisville, Kentucky

CONTACT: Clergy and Laity Network and DriveDemocracy


Progressive Religious Communities, our leaders and our community friends are gathering to witness:


OUR OUTRAGE over the attempt by the Family Research Council and its radical Christian Right colleagues to highjack the judicial selection process for their politiclal/theocratic agenda


OUR DISMAY Senate Majority Leader, Senator Bill Frist, is lending his name and influence to the Family Research Council's claim of universal support from  "people of faith" for its strategy, thereby giving false religious credentials to a thinly veiled political agenda


OUR POSITIVE COMMITMENT to defend and strengthen our social context in its commitment to fairness for all people, free of biased religious doctrines and prejudiced attitudes which are inimical to a mature religious understanding of the standards of inclusiveness and justice in American life


The Social Justice Sunday invitation is available at the Building the Beloved Community. Please distribute the invitation to all progressives. You can download the invitation as a word document here.


For more information, pelase see these dailyKos diaries:

Social Justice Sunday - Who is Participating?
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/4/20/1994/16087

Social Justice Sunday - by George Lakoff
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/4/15/2016/11711

Louisville Sluggers...
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/4/18/172142/504

___________________

WHAT YOU CAN DO LOCALLY


If you can't get to Louisville, please consider local activisim if a church or media outlet near you is receiving a simulcast of this event (to find out, enter your zip code here: http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?c=JS_SIMULCAST ).  NOTE:  THERE IS NOW A SUBSTANTIAL LIST OF TV STATIONS ACROSS THE COUNTRY CARRYING THIS PROGRAM.  

Please either contact the church, TV or radio station in question, or organize your own local vigil/rally, to help ensure that the the message gets out -- in a peaceful, safe and polite but forceful manner -- that this tactic of exploiting religion for political gain, and belittling the faith of progressives in general, is totally unacceptable.  It is an affront both to religion and the founding principles of this nation.



Further reading:

Frist Set to Use Religious Stage on Judicial Issue, New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/15/politics/15judges.htm...  5&ei=5094&partner=homepage) (free subscription required).  

Rabbi Steven B. Jacobs, Rabbi of Kol Tikvah Synagogue in Woodland Hills, California and Dr. Nazir Khaja, Chairman of the Islamic Information Service -- joint statement (http://www.fvcommunity.org/beloved/fristresponse ).
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 11:40 AM
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9. Nothing new, the theocrates have been saying that for some time.
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tubbacheez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 11:40 AM
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10. Frist is on the offense.
DeLay looks like toast. Shrub's hostile takeover of Soc Sec is stuck in the mud. Iraq looks like what the fundies want for America in 3 years.


Frist seems to think the GOP should slug its way out of the corner.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 11:40 AM
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11. WHY WON'T THE COWARD APPEAR IN PERSON?
Does he think that just sending a tape is going to make his "appearance" less insidious and hateful? If you have republican senators email them and tell them who will be held responsible when judges and their families are harmed due to the hate rhetoric which will no doubt spew from the tax exempt podium on Sunday night.
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formerrepuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 11:49 AM
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15. The "anti-faith liberals" bullshit is tiresome- and needs to be challenged
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 11:54 AM
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16. I'm surprised Howard Dean isnt making this part of the party platform
For the 2006 and 2008 elections. It's something that needs to be addressed.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 11:59 AM
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17. Senate Panel OKs Bush Judicial Nominee
Senate Panel OKs Bush Judicial Nominee

By JESSE J. HOLLAND
The Associated Press

WASHINGTON - Republicans sent a Texas judge's name to the full Senate for confirmation for a third time Thursday, moving closer to a confrontation over Democratic filibustering of President Bush's judicial nominees.

The Senate Judiciary Committee on a 10-8 party-line vote gave its approval to judge Priscilla Owen, who was nominated by Bush for a seat on the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New Orleans.

The committee was scheduled to do the same for California judge Janice Rogers Brown, who is seeking a lifetime slot on the U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in the District of Columbia.

Owen and Brown were blocked from confirmation by Democratic filibuster threats during Bush's first term, but were renominated by the president after he won a second term in November. Democrats consider the nominees too conservative.

more: http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/28-04212005-479266.html
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 11:59 AM
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18. hope those spine transplants
have had long enough to take hold.
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 11:59 AM
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19. the dems not filibustering would be the ultimate flip-flop considering
they didn't want him originally, and nothing has changed.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 12:12 PM
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20. Priscilla Owen is an Enron fascist stooge:
Edited on Thu Apr-21-05 12:18 PM by Zorra
Dems, please filibuster this multi-national corporate employee hag:

Member of the board of the Houston Chapter of the Federalist Society, an ultra-conservative legal organization.

Enron's political action committee gave Owen $8,600 for her successful Supreme Court bid in 1994. Two years later, Owen wrote the majority opinion that reversed a lower court order and reduced Enron's school taxes by $15 million. Since 1993, Enron contributed $134,058 — more than any other corporation — to Owen and other members of the Texas Supreme Court. A study by Texans for Public Justice found that the court ruled in Enron's favor in five out of six cases involving the company since 1993.

http://www.now.org/issues/legislat/nominees/owens.html

She is also, naturally, a walking environmental catastrophe waiting to happen if she ever, God forbid, is confirmed.
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 12:55 PM
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21. so if senate democrats are "against people of faith"
then I suppose the other 206 judges were athiests? Why is president bush nominating athiests to federal courts when he knows that is out of the mainstream? :sarcasm:
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 01:07 PM
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24. They are against "people of faith" if you consider that the
Republican brand of "faith" involves worshiping at the altar of corporate profits. That's the only form of "faith" involved here folks.
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Edgewater_Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 01:02 PM
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22. If They Are Losing Bolton - And They Are - They'll Lose This
We already have Collins, McCain and Jeffords; how much you wanna bet we might now be able to get Chafee, Snowe, and Voinovich given what's going on with Bolton?

I TOLD people that when Bush said he had political capital to spend it was the best thing we could've heard, because he's spending that the way he spent the rest of his capital.

He'll be bankrupt by Memorial Day. Book it.
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 01:04 PM
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23. I'm so sick of republicans promoting
the perception of "Christian Persecution". There's nothing Christian about the right wing, it's all about politics, power and money.
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Geekscum Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 04:13 PM
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25. Republicans send Owen nomination to Senate :(
Edited on Thu Apr-21-05 02:15 PM by Geekscum
Republicans send Owen nomination to Senate
By JESSE J. HOLLAND Associated Press Writer The Associated Press

Republicans sent a Texas judge´s name to the full Senate for confirmation for a third time Thursday, moving closer to a confrontation over Democratic filibustering of President Bush´s judicial nominees.

The Senate Judiciary Committee on a 10-8 party-line vote gave its approval to judge Priscilla Owen, who was nominated by Bush for a seat on the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New Orleans.

The committee was scheduled to do the same for California judge Janice Rogers Brown, who is seeking a lifetime slot on the U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in the District of Columbia.

Owen and Brown were blocked from confirmation by Democratic filibuster threats during Bush´s first term, but were renominated by the president after he won a second term in November. Democrats consider the nominees too conservative.


http://www.myplainview.com/APTexas/parsed/stories/D89JS4UO0.shtml
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 04:13 PM
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26. Where does it say Dems caved on the judge?
Or do you mean on Myers?
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 04:14 PM
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27. Dem's did not cave
They voted against sending her nomination to the Senate floor but were outvoted. NOW, they will filibuster. If they don't, THEN they will have caved.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 04:14 PM
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28. The Democrats DID NOT CAVE!
They did exactly what they did the last time.

But the Repukes are about to cave on the nuclear option, thus a filibuster, thus no reichwingnut on the court.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 04:14 PM
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29. Priscilla Owen has been nominated by Bush to crush Democracy in
America. She is a fascist that will help Bush and the republicans privatize our government.

She is a member of the Federalist Society and is a total corporate whore that has been mega-supported by Enron, only once ruled against them in numerous decisions on Enron cases over which she presided.

She is also a proven walking environmental disaster.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 04:14 PM
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30. you think you might want to edit your headline?
I FUCKING CAN'T STAND MISINFORMATION!!!! :nuke:
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 04:14 PM
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31. You can't fillibuster a committee vote
Only a vote in the full Senate.
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Geekscum Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 04:14 PM
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34. My bad I thought you could
I thought you could filibuster a committee vote.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 04:14 PM
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32. What they all said before me
The...DEMS...did...NOT...cave!!!

What did you expect them to do? They voted against her. "The Senate Judiciary Committee on a 10-8 party-line vote ..."

This is the beginning of the filibuster round.
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 04:14 PM
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33. It was a party-line vote. Don't you know what that means? Get it straight
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 04:14 PM
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35. Welcome to DU, by the way
:hi:
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BadNews Donating Member (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 04:14 PM
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36. Where the Rubber meets the Road
Now it gets interesting.:popcorn:

Do the Dems have the guts to stand together and filibuster these two again? Last time, the Republicans caved and did not force the Dems to filibuster for long. This time, it will take more patience, motivation, and planning to keep it going.

But if they do, will the repugs stick together and end the filibustering of justices?

Which side is more willing to stand up? They are all politicians, so I would not be confident about taking either side of a wager on this one.
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fertilizeonarbusto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 04:14 PM
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37. Good!
Edited on Thu Apr-21-05 03:36 PM by fertilizeonarbusto
Could not be happier. This Owen witch is such a corporate-whore sleazeball all Harry Reid has to do is parade her nauseating record when the filibuster starts and Fristy starts the orgy of victimization with the Jeebus-freaks. Look, even ALBERTO GONZALES was appalled by her when they were in the Texas Supreme Court together.
Is it me or have the Rethugs lost their "touch"? They won so many times they got overconfident and now think they can get away with anything.
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BadNews Donating Member (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 04:14 PM
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38. Careful, They may be able to get away with anything NT/
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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 05:19 PM
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39. New push to win approval for Bush judicial nominees (Owen, Brown first out
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7587980/

New push to win approval for Bush judicial nominees

Republicans splitting on 'nuclear option' to stop Democratic filibuster?

Texas Supreme Court Justice Priscilla Owen is one of two judges whose nominations went to the full Senate Thursday.

MSNBC staff and news service reports
Updated: 1:16 p.m. ET April 21, 2005

WASHINGTON - The battle between President Bush and Democrats over his judicial nominees resurfaced Thursday when Republicans sent two judges' names to the full Senate for a vote, but a key GOP senator who's facing an uphill re-election battle backed off what's known as the "nuclear option" to block Democratic opposition.


The committee later did the same for California judge Janice Rogers Brown, who is seeking a slot on the U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in the District of Columbia.

Owen and Brown were blocked from confirmation by Democratic filibuster threats during Bush’s first term, but were renominated by the president after he won a second term in November. Democrats consider the nominees too conservative.
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Mr.Green93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 05:19 PM
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40. DOA
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 05:19 PM
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41. 204 judges confirmed
The man wants a DICTATORSHIP. Little Georgie has to get EVERYTHING he wants.
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 05:19 PM
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42. Wow and the pResident's temper tantrum continues
unabated by frequent interruptions from reality! :rofl: :popcorn:

Stay tuned for Episode II
Will he hold his breath next in aisle 6 at the grocery market next?:eyes:
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 05:19 PM
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43. all I'm saying is the 06 elections are big, very big....
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