CNN Breaking: Schumer calling 3:00 press conference

[DEMActivist]

asking for an independent counsel for Wilsongate.

[Cappurr]

1. YES YES YES

I love Chuck Shumer

[FauxNewsBlues]

8. Good going

White House is circling the wagons now. Emphatically denies Karl Rove was involved. In for an ounce, in for a pound now.

I wouldn't put it past Karl Rove to lie to Bush about his involvement.

[wtmusic]

12. LOL 'Emphatically denies Karl Rove was involved'

White House => English translation: 'Karl Rove was impetus and source'

[HardWiredDemocrat]

13. We've got to keep hammering the hammerers!

Hmm hammerers -- is that a real word?

Go Chuck! :thumbsup:

[samsingh]

69. hammerers is busifying the english language

busifying - to destroy, corrupt, or spoil.
verb

[bearfartinthewoods]

15. is that possible? i thought the IC's office was undone by congress?

[FauxNewsBlues]

16. The Statute is out

So Congress can't do it, but the AG can, if I read it correctly.
If the AG feels they have a conflict of interest on a case, they can get an outside person to do it.

It's all in the republican hands though basically. The pain has to be so great for covering up, that it is worse than the crime. We will see if it hits that threshold.

The key is calling republican Senators who are in tight re-election bids next year. Those are the ones who are worried about their asses.

[diplomats]

17. The attorney general can appoint one

that's actually what happened in Whitewater. Janet Reno appointed Robert Fiske, who was eventually "fired" by a right-wing court at the behest of Jesse Helms; the court replaced him with Ken Starr, and we know the rest.

[deutsey]

2. This could get interesting...

:thumbsup:

[bearfartinthewoods]

35. hehehehe...somebody pass the popcorn!

[Khephra]

3. I'm surprised that CNN anounced it

That's a sign of how much things have changed in of itself.

Thanks for the good news. I've been down this morning. This should pick me up.

[robbedvoter]

4. He's been pushing for it from the onset. Now he gets more publicity

I doubt he'll get it, but he's doing the right thing by asking.

[wryter2000]

5. Shoot!

He didn't even give me enough time to write him a letter.

Love ya, Chuck. :yourock:

[FuseONE]

7. I don't understand

This story was circulating among in the left-wing media a long time ago. Why does it take so long for mainstream media to catch up?

[FlaGranny]

10. The main-stream press ignored the story

but it has been brought to their attention (again) by the CIA asking for an investigation. The CIA is what got their attention.

[gratuitous]

6. He can call for it all he wants

But the majority party will have to get on board before the idea of an independent counsel gets any traction. And the Republican code of Omerta will keep them from doing anything of the sort. Crime families don't settle these sorts of disputes in the public eye; it's done behind closed doors so as not to expose any weakness.

[DoYouEverWonder]

14. Can't the DOJ appoint a special council?

Or they can hand the case over to the FBI to investigate.

Either way we don't need Congress to asked for a SC, even though it would be nice.

[The Magistrate]

22. If They Do Not, Sir

The refusal to do so becomes an issue, and will be read by most as proof of the charge.

This thing is not going to go away.

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[NNN0LHI]

36. The Republican silence on this issue has been deafening, Sir

When we do not even hear cretons like Tom Delay coming to the Bush administrations defense on something as serious as this, it makes ones ears perk up. There may be blood in the water with this one?

Don

[The Magistrate]

55. That Is My Opinion, My Friend

The silence of adherents to the other side is matched by the increasing noise of their opponents, and in the media.

Particularly nowadays, the people take national security concerns seriously, and make few distinctions: these people exposed an intelligence agent, and that is all most people will need to hear to form the opinion a great wrong has been done.

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[HereSince1628]

37. Watch for Congressional Hearings and "Immunity for Testimony"

Clearly someone has broken the law. Having no investigation through DOJ special counsel or otherwise is probably not going to wash.

Ashcroft will delay hoping it will go away. But, when it comes, watch the republicans in Congress call their own hearings so they can protect the Whitehouse leakers with immunity for testimony.

[seventhson]

61. Except NOW the CIA is PISSED at Bush

expect a Nixon/Watergate style Valentine's Day Massacre: Heads will roll like nothing America has ever seen.

These guys like Rummie and Cheney are chickenshits.

They have been covering for the Bushes as well as for themselves.

BUT When the CIA gets pissed the Rethuglican Omerta code is a pretty weak defense.

Thet're melting and they did it to themselves.

The Bushes are melting

[phillybri]

9. Money!!!!

I hope our candidates get all over this thing....

In essence, a leak like this endangers our national security.

:kick:

[CO Liberal]

11. Dear Chuck: Stay Out of Airplanes ........

We need you.

:tinfoilhat:

[Kool Kitty]

18. Amy Goodman has the best line of the day

(so far) regarding this-"Does a felon ROVE the White House?" "Democracy Now!" had a big segment about the Wilson affair. It's worth a listen (or a read) at www.democracynow.org . The transcript and entire show is usually available after 3 PM.

[proud patriot]

19. SWEET

:D

[hlthe2b]

20. yes... but let's call it "traitor-gate!"

With deference to the great 19th century songwriter, Steven Foster ('Jeanie with the light brown hair'):

I dream of Rovie in the bright jumpsuit......... '(doin the perp walk!)

[Booberdawg]

21. any link yet? I'm not seeing this on MSNBC yet??

[Booberdawg]

26. Nora O'Donnell just announced the press conference too

Does Schumer have any influence in getting an independent counsel assigned? This won't go anywhere with asscroft - it isn't like putting a curtain over a tit or busting people for pot ya know. :eyes:

[Cush]

23. the big question is:

WIll they cover it?

[meegbear]

24. I wonder how many WH daily briefings ....

will all be delayed until 3pm?

[gauguin57]

25. in case you missed

this in the "novak/criminal investigation" thread...

Joshua Micah Marshall points out this possible "Blast from the Past," re: Karl Rove/Robert Novak:

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/sept0304.html#0929031229am

referencing Suskind's January Esquire piece:

http://www.ronsuskind.com/writing/esquire/esq_rove_0103.html

"... Sources close to the former president say Rove was fired from the 1992 Bush presidential campaign after he planted a negative story with columnist Robert Novak about dissatisfaction with campaign fundraising chief and Bush loyalist Robert Mosbacher Jr. It was smoked out, and he was summarily ousted. ..."

[JohnnyAmerica]

27. This is good....

because having such a prominent politican asking for this gets the mainstream media to report the story.
Go, Chuck.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

28. This is a blowjob too...

I mean, the WH blew someone's job... right? :evilgrin:

[Kool Kitty]

31. Absolutely!!

And infinitely more destructive than the other one. :D

[Q]

29. Remember...that 'whitewater' had nothing to do with...

...Clinton's 'impeachment'. This could open up the floodgates and lead to other investigations. It would help if the Dems fought this as a party.

[underpants]

30. What? An investigation? but WE ARE AT WAR!!!!!!!!!!!!

9/11
9/11
9/11
9/11
9/11

[pansypoo53219]

32. best part

HE'S DOING IT ON A MONDAY. now we get a whole WEEK to yap about it(break it on fri so it dies).

[Jacobin]

33. Hate to rain on a much needed parade, but

If the history of Smirk administration appointments for investigations (remember Kissinger appointed for 9/11 investigation), does this mean they will drag Ken Starr out of semi-retirement to "prosecute" and give Rove a gold medal for outing a "double agent" or some such bullshit.

This is good, but we have to keep an eye on these bastards.


Don't let Daddy find out!

We need more human intelligence. That means we need more protection for the methods we use to gather intelligence and more protection for our sources, particularly our human sources, people that are risking their lives for their country. Even though I'm a tranquil guy now at this stage of my life, I have nothing but contempt and anger for those who betray the trust by exposing the name of our sources. They are, in my view, the most insidious, of traitors.

George H.W. Bush
April 16th, 1999
Dedication Speech
George Bush Center for Intelligence (sic)

[LeftHander]

34. Corporate Mentality

Destroy your enemies rather than work with them.

These bozo rotten heads in the White House have the ruthless tactics that corporations use all the time and they think it is okay to do the same in the public sector....

Man are they in for a wake call on this...

Bush's scandals are all coming to a head...Cheney, Iraq, Wilson....

And that rotten head is going pop!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!'

[Nancy Waterman]

38. Important dots to connect!!!

Bush has been known repeatedly to want to punish those who get in his way. He is very into revenge. This whole thing fits his MO. Rice made a big deal Sunday about how Bush didn't know anything, how Bush would never have let this happen. But this is vintage Bush. Their biggest headache it keeping Bush unstained from this. Someone may be purged to prevent it.

[davidinalameda]

39. very interesting

I wonder who the Bushies will put forth as the sacrifical lamb this time

maybe the housekeeper or someone on that level

[Bandit]

40. Poindexter would be my guess.

I always figured he was going to be their fall guy. That is why he has maintained such a low profile. He is already a convicted felon for almost the same stuff.

[OldCurmudgeon]

43. if it was Poindexter

then the question becomes: "who gave Poindexter that information?" and "why did you trust a convicted felon?"

The real question is whether the media has to guts to pursue this story. If so, then ShrubCo is toast, otherwise ShrubCo gets a pass.

[Padraig18]

41. I just heard our State's lame-duck REPUBLICAN Senator say...

... that he thought an Independent Counsel was both needed and appropriate in light of the 'deeply disturbing nature of these revelations'. :)

PS-- And he's independently wealthy, so he could give a rat's behind about $$$ from the B.F.E.E. :P

[Dhalgren]

59. Which senator was it?

.

[Logansquare]

65. Fitzgerald-IL, perhaps?

The rumors are that the White House basically told him not to run for another term, or else.

[Unknown Known]

42. Treason during Wartime!!

They should be hung on the WH lawn in primetime!!:nuke:

[Catherine Vincent]

44. I'm not as hopeful as some of you.

Yes, I want these bad guys locked up but I don't think anything will come out of this. There had been plenty of other scandals that went nowhere with this evil administration. This one is no different. Someway this will go away quietly.

We shall see.

[femmecahors]

50. Quit putting that photo up!!!!!

It makes me sad.

[SammyWinstonJack]

53. I love that photo

Please leave it up. :-)

[many a good man]

45. Senior White House Officials are "the most insidious of traitors"

Sorry, it just felt good to write that.
:evilgrin:

[Nottingham]

46. Oh this is Awesome! I think 3:00 is very appropiate! I see 33

Oh and while they do Wilson gate then we get questions on why Bush pushed Weapons of Mass Destruction when we knew they didn't exist!

:bounce:

[Drifter]

47. Who would make the perfect "independent council"

Give it to Bill Clinton.

I think he would be fair.

Cheers
Drifter

[Zephyrbird]

48. hee hee heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!

You stole the words right out of my brain, drifter!!

If that wouldn't be poetic justice! hee heeeeeeeee! :evilgrin:

[Nevernose]

52. Certainly no worse

Than appointing Ted Olson to be the Solicitor General!

[AntiCoup2K4]

58. Now that would be justice

But isn't there the little problem of the right wing making sure he was disbarred, and therefore not able to practice law? :-(

[Dhalgren]

60. Only in Arkansas, I think.

.

[Nottingham]

49. The Justice Dept is appointed not elected! He isn't Independant!

This isn't going to make the people happy! Remember Republicans when we investigated Monica Lewinsky! This is even more important than that!!!!

Republicans are exposed!! :bounce:

[kskiska]

51. Just heard the White House will NOT launch an internal investigation

and that they think the Justice Dept. is the appropriate venue for it.

[Nottingham]

54. Come On In Aschcroft the water is dirty and jump in!

I think lets contaminate Aschcroft too! FBI +WH against the CIA

I'm still betting on the CIA!! :bounce:

[underpants]

56. They need all the people they have for the PLUMBING

:bounce:

[qanda]

57. Am I mistaken, or did I hear that * will be signing the Do Not Call

Legislation at 3:00p.m.? If so, I'm sure it's just a coincidence:eyes:

[Cush]

63. 3:30

[Mari333]

67. 3:30???same time Bushit signs the Do Not Call legislation???

which one will the networks cover?????????????????????????? Shumer or the Chimp?

[Barrett808]

62. Can we watch this anywhere?

C-SPAN?

[JNelson6563]

64. I can't find it anywhere

:shrug:

[Barrett808]

66. Doesn't seem to be scheduled on C-SPAN n/t

n/t

[MoonAndSun]

68. Ted Kennedy is on CSPAN 2 now on this thread

maybe Schumer will be on after him??

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