Magnitude 8.2 - NORTHERN SUMATRA, INDONESIA

[Gman]

This one is big. No news link yet. Wondering about a tsunami.

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/recenteqsww/Quakes/usweax.htm

[Mari333]

1. Oh no

Those poor people dont need this again

[Renew Deal]

2. That's a major earthquake.

Damn

[Pachamama]

85. How fast can you sprint?

I know if I was there, I'd be setting a record sprint....why take chances...

And yes, damn that's a major earthquake...the worst part is that they still don't have Tsunami measuring devices in place in that region...Even though the UN and other agencies and gov't's agreed that its needed, they have not been put in place.

I'm sure that the satelites and any ships at sea are trying to monitor whatever they can, but I know I wouldn't be taking any chances....

:scared:

[tyedyeto]

3. About 40 minutes ago........

how long before they know if there is a tsunami?

[dweller]

6. there is a tsunami watch going on now

according to Steph Miller. She just mentioned the earthquake on her show.

dp

[jojo54]

16. About an hour from the quake

they were just talking to a woman from the USGS by phone.

[Zynx]

28. The Tsunami would hit Indonesia immediately after the quake - minutes

[Pallas180]

53. Not necessarily. Last time tsunami was 2 hours before hit.

In any case the astrologers in DU forums have predicted this recurrence at this time.

[Zynx]

68. That was hours before it hit Thailand and Sri Lanka

It hit Indonesia immediately. Just think for a moment - the waves went out at the same speed (due to law of physics) and Indonesia was right next to it.

[LynneSin]

44. I'm sure by now they're all heading to the highlands

But I hope there isn't a tsuamani

:cry:

[tyedyeto]

47. I would hope for both......

they head to higher ground just in case, but really hope there isn't one.

[Spazito]

4. Geez

That is big for sure. The area is very active lately, I wonder if it is more than usual.

I, too, am wondering about the possibility of another tsunami, will keep my fingers crossed that it doesn't happen.

[Renew Deal]

5. No Tsunami warning for US

http://wcatwc.arh.noaa.gov/message.txt

WEPA43 PAAQ 281645
TIBWCA

TO - TSUNAMI WARNING SYSTEM PARTICIPANTS IN
ALASKA/BRITISH COLUMBIA/WASHINGTON/OREGON/CALIFORNIA
FROM - WEST COAST AND ALASKA TSUNAMI WARNING CENTER/NOAA/NWS
SUBJECT - TSUNAMI INFORMATION BULLETIN
BULLETIN NUMBER 1
ISSUED 03/28/2005 AT 1645 UTC

...THIS TSUNAMI INFORMATION BULLETIN IS FOR ALASKA - BRITISH
COLUMBIA - WASHINGTON - OREGON AND CALIFORNIA ONLY...

NO - REPEAT NO - WATCH OR WARNING IS IN EFFECT.

EARTHQUAKE DATA
PRELIMINARY MAGNITUDE - 8.5
LOCATION - 2.3N 97.1E - NORTHERN SUMATERA, INDONESIA
TIME - 0710 AST 03/28/2005
0810 PST 03/28/2005
1610 UTC 03/28/2005

EVALUATION
BASED ON LOCATION AND MAGNITUDE THE EARTHQUAKE WAS NOT
SUFFICIENT TO GENERATE A TSUNAMI DAMAGING TO CALIFORNIA -
OREGON - WASHINGTON - BRITISH COLUMBIA OR ALASKA. SOME AREAS MAY
EXPERIENCE SMALL SEA LEVEL CHANGES. IN AREAS OF INTENSE
SHAKING LOCALLY GENERATED TSUNAMIS CAN BE TRIGGERED BY SLUMPING.

THE PACIFIC TSUNAMI WARNING CENTER WILL ISSUE TSUNAMI BULLETINS
FOR HAWAII AND OTHER AREAS OF THE PACIFIC.

THIS WILL BE THE ONLY BULLETIN ISSUED FOR THIS EVENT BY THE
WEST COAST AND ALASKA TSUNAMI WARNING CENTER UNLESS CONDITIONS
WARRANT. REFER TO THE INTERNET SITE HTTP://WCATWC.ARH.NOAA.GOV
FOR MORE INFORMATION.

[tyedyeto]

7. But is there one for the regions that were affected in Dec.? n/t

[Renew Deal]

9. I was looking.

I can't find anything yet.

[Merope215]

26. yes

see my post below. :scared:

[Merope215]

8. USGS tsunami bulletin

TSUNAMI BULLETIN NUMBER 001
PACIFIC TSUNAMI WARNING CENTER/NOAA/NWS
ISSUED AT 1629Z 28 MAR 2005

THIS BULLETIN IS FOR ALL AREAS OF THE PACIFIC BASIN EXCEPT
ALASKA - BRITISH COLUMBIA - WASHINGTON - OREGON - CALIFORNIA.

... TSUNAMI INFORMATION BULLETIN ...

THIS MESSAGE IS FOR INFORMATION ONLY. THERE IS NO TSUNAMI WARNING
OR WATCH IN EFFECT.

AN EARTHQUAKE HAS OCCURRED WITH THESE PRELIMINARY PARAMETERS

ORIGIN TIME - 1610Z 28 MAR 2005
COORDINATES - 2.3 NORTH 97.1 EAST
LOCATION - NORTHERN SUMATERA INDONESIA
MAGNITUDE - 8.5

EVALUATION

THIS EARTHQUAKE IS LOCATED OUTSIDE THE PACIFIC. NO TSUNAMI THREAT
EXISTS TO COASTLINES IN THE PACIFIC.

WARNING... THIS EARTHQUAKE HAS THE POTENTIAL TO GENERATE A WIDELY
DESTRUCTIVE TSUNAMI IN THE OCEAN OR SEAS NEAR THE EARTHQUAKE.
AUTHORITIES IN THOSE REGIONS SHOULD BE AWARE OF THIS POSSIBILITY
AND TAKE IMMEDIATE ACTION. THIS ACTION SHOULD INCLUDE EVACUATION
OF COASTS WITHIN A THOUSAND KILOMETERS OF THE EPICENTER AND CLOSE
MONITORING TO DETERMINE THE NEED FOR EVACUATION FURTHER AWAY.

THIS CENTER DOES NOT HAVE SEA LEVEL GAUGES OUTSIDE THE PACIFIC
SO WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DETECT OR MEASURE A TSUNAMI IF ONE WAS
GENERATED. AUTHORITIES CAN ASSUME THE DANGER HAS PASSED IF NO
TSUNAMI WAVES ARE OBSERVED IN THE REGION NEAR THE EPICENTER
WITHIN THREE HOURS OF THE EARTHQUAKE.

THIS WILL BE THE ONLY BULLETIN ISSUED FOR THIS EVENT UNLESS
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION BECOMES AVAILABLE.

THE WEST COAST/ALASKA TSUNAMI WARNING CENTER WILL ISSUE BULLETINS
FOR ALASKA - BRITISH COLUMBIA - WASHINGTON - OREGON - CALIFORNIA.

http://www.prh.noaa.gov/ptwc/wmsg

I really hope those poor people don't have another one of these to deal with.

[Zynx]

12. That says 8.5???? Whoa. This is bad.

Prayers.

[Merope215]

17. Right, plus there's the "has potential

to generate a widely destructive tsunami" part. I really hope that doesn't happen. It depends on what kind of earthquake it was, though - if it was a lateral shift, chances of a tsunami are very low. Hopefully that was the case.

[XemaSab]

101. That's not the kind of fault line

that's there, unfortunately.

[GOPFighter]

48. Uh,, correction, that's a NOAA bulletin

I'm kind of sensitive 'cause that's the agency I work for.

[Merope215]

50. Sorry about that

It was linked from the USGS website, but I should have realized it was a Pacific Tsunami Warning Center/NOAA bulletin, like it says on top. My bad.

Cheers to NOAA! :toast:

[Zynx]

8.2+ EARTHQUAKE, POSSIBLE TSUNAMI INDONESIA

Just went across CNN from USGS. No details. It's right where the last one was.

[stellanoir]

10. oh shit

not again

[AFSCME girl]

11. Oh no...

:cry:

[Whoa_Nelly]

13. Huge!

A great earthquake occurred at 16:09:37 (UTC) on Monday, March 28, 2005. The magnitude 8.2 event has been located in NORTHERN SUMATRA, INDONESIA. (This event has been reviewed by a seismologist.)
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/recenteqsww/Quakes/usweax.htm

[lies and propaganda]

14. they cannot get a break. n/t

[Ganja Ninja]

15. These are a lot of very powerful quakes.

This is some freaky stuff.

[Renew Deal]

18. Maybe Bush was testing nukes again.

:tinfoilhat:
:evilgrin:

[earth mom]

57. Yeah, it's a test for the big event here in the U.S. about the third

week in April while they are doing all sorts of system tests around the U.S. just like on 9/11...

Call me a tinfoilhatter...I don't care...I'm a MIHOPer or LIHOPer, so I do believe it's a real possibility... :scared: :tinfoilhat:

Edited to add that my thoughts and prayers are with the people of Indonesia. :cry:

[Blue Belle]

102. I'm not familiar with the Acronyms....

I'm new... could you please fill me in on what MIHOP, and LIHOP stand for?

Just curious.

[meganmonkey]

103. LIHOP = Let it happen on purpose

MIHOP = Make it happen on purpose.

As in, the bush** administration allowing (or making) something horrible to happen if it benefits them...

[Straight Shooter]

106. LIHOP=Let It Happen On Purpose ... MIHOP=Make It Happen On Purpose

Referring to bushgang and whether bush (in particular) didn't do anything to keep it from happening (LIHOP) or whether they arranged 9/11 (MIHOP).

All kinds of reasons give credibility to one or the other theory.

Welcome to DU! :hi:

edit: meganmonkey is more accurate; LIHOP and MIHOP refer to acts of bush and his gang in general; but the most common reference is to 9/11

[smitty]

127. Wow

You sound profoundly silly but I'll bite: what's going to happen in the third week of April?

BTW: First big earthquake--day after Christmas
Second big earthquake--day after Easter

Coincidence? Plate tectonics? Mossad? Bush? Dr. Evil?

[Ediacara]

79. Not this again.....

[Gman]

19. I think these are all aftershocks from the 9.5 one quake

in December.

[doublethink]

20. Isn't this bigger than the last one that hit there?

and that one threw the earth off it's axis, those people need to get off the coasts out there, I hope they have more of a warning system this time. Too close to the one in December, prayers.

[Renew Deal]

22. Nope

That as a 9.0

[Zynx]

25. Not yet - but that one was revised up repeatedly. This could be too.

[Ganja Ninja]

51. After the first big one ...

the Florida aquifer rose by four inches.

[LynzM]

21. Oh geez....

I really hope, for the sake of everyone in that area, that this was the wrong kind of quake to cause another Tsunami.

[allemand]

23. Exactly as predicted

New Asian quake threat warning
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4354217.stm

[Spazito]

30. Wow!

Incredibly accurate and very frightening regarding the possible tsunami. Thanks for posting this.

[RandomKoolzip]

24. Is there a link between Mt. St Helens going off and major earthquakes

in the Pacific?

I admit I know very little about geology and earth sciences, but I seem to remember Mt. St Helens erupting before the December quake/tsunami, too. And Mt. St Helens erupted a few days ago, didn't it?

Okay, back to reality:

My condolences to those in the path of this quake. 8.2 is a major shock.....I hope the destruction can be kept to a minimum....this sucks!!

[Zynx]

27. Negative - entirely different plates.

[RandomKoolzip]

29. Okay...thanks for the clarification....

just wondering aloud.

[malaise]

37. BBC is covering the quake

as breaking news - they say 8.2 to 8.5. They also said Japan put out a tsunami warning has been issued. Immediate action should be taken to clear the coast.

[AllegroRondo]

42. CNN still has Schiavo as top story

Priorities!

[LynneSin]

46. Yeah, she took a drop of wine

IDIOTS!!!

[1monster]

43. The Pacific Rim AKA The Rim of Fire...

All the lands bordering the Pacific Ocean are on the Rim of Fire, including the west coasts of North, South, and Central America, New Zealand, Indonesia, China, Japan, Southeast Asia, Russia, etc.

[velcrounderground]

67. I agree with you, and then some

I agree with what you said about St. Helens. I was thinking the same thing, but then read the post about different plates. Well, something just didn't sit well with that, and here is what I have found so far from http://www.platetectonics.com/book/page_5.asp:

"There are 3 primary types of Tectonic Plate boundaries: Divergent boundaries; Covergent boundaries; and Transform boundaries. As the giant plates move, diverging or converging along their borders, tremendous energies are unleashed resulting in tremors that transform Earth’s surface. While all the plates appear to be moving at different relative speeds and independently of each other, the whole jigsaw puzzle of plates is interconnected. No single plate can move without affecting others, and the activity of one can influence another thousands of miles away."

Now, if you think that's strange, how about this: When the December quake happened, Mercury was just coming out of retrograde, there was a full moon and it was the Solstice. This time, Mercury is in retrograde, there is a full moon and it is the Equinox.

[RandomKoolzip]

80. I don't believe in that astrology nonsense, but....

I just think it's probably connected, the eruption of a volcano on one side of the Pacific, and an earthquake a few days later. It's happened twice in the last four months, maybe a reputable seismologist should look into it.


Welcome to DU!


(And the next poster who says Bush caused this earthquake gets a wedgie!)

[Ediacara]

83. They are connected in a very broad sense

In that they're both Earth System occurances. But the very very very very minor erruptions that St Helens has been having are related only to Cascadia subduction. By the same logic, the 1980 eruption (which was still pretty small) should have caused a giant fissure to form and swallow up the entire Earth... :-)

[RandomKoolzip]

86. True dat, DinoBoy.

And I admit that I am showing my TOTAL ignorance of Earth System sciences here.

I'll just bow out now before the conspiracy theorists take over the thread (which is inevitable....of course Bush caused the earthquake to distract from the Scaivo debacle, etc....)

[GOPBasher]

31. Crap! I hope there's no Tsunami. n/t

[dethl]

32. Scary....

I really hope this doesn't generate a tsunami. The people in that region are still recovering from the first. :(

[GOPBasher]

33. Crap! I hope there's no way Tsunami. n/t

[meganmonkey]

34. MSNBC Link:

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7316846/

[brooklynite]

35. NOAA Tsunami Warning (8.5)

TSUNAMI BULLETIN NUMBER 001
PACIFIC TSUNAMI WARNING CENTER/NOAA/NWS
ISSUED AT 1629Z 28 MAR 2005

THIS BULLETIN IS FOR ALL AREAS OF THE PACIFIC BASIN EXCEPT
ALASKA - BRITISH COLUMBIA - WASHINGTON - OREGON - CALIFORNIA.

... TSUNAMI INFORMATION BULLETIN ...

THIS MESSAGE IS FOR INFORMATION ONLY. THERE IS NO TSUNAMI WARNING
OR WATCH IN EFFECT.

AN EARTHQUAKE HAS OCCURRED WITH THESE PRELIMINARY PARAMETERS

ORIGIN TIME - 1610Z 28 MAR 2005
COORDINATES - 2.3 NORTH 97.1 EAST
LOCATION - NORTHERN SUMATERA INDONESIA
MAGNITUDE - 8.5

...snip...

WARNING... THIS EARTHQUAKE HAS THE POTENTIAL TO GENERATE A WIDELY
DESTRUCTIVE TSUNAMI IN THE OCEAN OR SEAS NEAR THE EARTHQUAKE.
AUTHORITIES IN THOSE REGIONS SHOULD BE AWARE OF THIS POSSIBILITY
AND TAKE IMMEDIATE ACTION. THIS ACTION SHOULD INCLUDE EVACUATION
OF COASTS WITHIN A THOUSAND KILOMETERS OF THE EPICENTER AND CLOSE
MONITORING TO DETERMINE THE NEED FOR EVACUATION FURTHER AWAY.

http://www.prh.noaa.gov/ptwc/wmsg

[Blue_Tires]

36. man...talk about damned hard luck

[Minstrel Boy]

38. The earliest report of the Dec 26 earthquake said it was "only" 8.1,

with Indonesian seismologists reporting it at just 6.4. It took several days before its magnitude was agreed upon. So we may not know the true magnitude of this one yet.

First DU report on Dec 26:

"JAKARTA, Indonesia - A powerful earthquake rocked Indonesia's northernmost province of Aceh Sunday and radio reports said several small buildings had collapsed and large waves had slammed the area's north coast. Witnesses told Jakarta's el-Shinta radio station that nine people were killed in the quake, but there was no immediate way to confirm the casualty and damage reports.

There were conflicting reports on the size of the temblor, which struck about 8 a.m. and was centered about 100 miles off the west coast of Sumatra. The U.S. Geological Survey (news - web sites)'s Web site recorded a magnitude of 8.1, capable of massive damage. But Indonesian seismologists said the quake had a magnitude of 6.4. There was no way to immediately clarify the discrepancy."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?

[Corgigal]

39. Gee

The day after Christmas and the day after Easter. We got to stop having holidays for these folks.

[meganmonkey]

45. Oh goodness

That's a great reason for those psycho superfundies (Phelps-style) to say these people deserve it for being heathens :eyes:

[expatriot]

40. I don't believe in god but I am praying for these people.....

I don't believe in prayer threads either but jesus, these poor people.

[unhappycamper]

41. another good earthquake monitoring site is

http://www.iris.edu/seismon/

[Delphinus]

49. Oh, no ...

Please, not again. These people have barely started put their lives back together. So sad.

[steve2470]

52. link from cnn.com

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/03/28/indonesia.quake/index.html

[Up2Late]

54. GOOD News/Bad News

Good News - The Cable News Whores ARE all covering it.

Bad News - It hit just after Mid-Night Local time.

[Hard Attack]

55. Science Wins, God Loses.

_
It wasn't long ago when a scientist, who last summer was in this area warning people to avoid the coastlines, saying a major earthquake was due in the near future, had reported after the Tsunami 3 months ago, that it was going to happen again, soon.


This is a something that is going to wind up putting SCIENCE up against GOD.

If another catastrophy does hit, it will be SCIENCE that was right, kicking those with faith in the knees.

Our former Presidents have been doing this tear jerker campaign for funds, to rebuild these area's while scientists have been saying its going to happen again.

Should be interesting to see how this is followed up with our so called fair and balanced news networks. Especially now that they have all of these Men of God on the networks everynight commenting on everything from Family Values to Terry Shiavo.

[Hard Attack]

65. HERE IS THE LINK -- SCIENCE PREDICTED THIS LAST WEEK

_
Scientists fear another major quake may strike Indonesia
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200503/s1325589.htm

Seismologists say there is a heightened risk that a major earthquake may soon strike the western coast of Sumatra as a result of the monster quake that generated the December 26 tsunami.

They warn that the Indonesian city of Banda Aceh, which was already badly hit by the killer wave, could be at risk from a quake measuring up to 7.5 on the Richter scale and there is a potential for a tsunami-making 8.5 quake offshore.

"There is no doubt, our calculations show a very significant increase on stress on two major active faults in the Sumatra region," seismologist John McCloskey at Britain's University of Ulster told AFP.

Click Here - http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200503/s1325589.htm

[Renew Deal]

66. God controls everything.

He caused the earthquake and He gave the scientists the knowledge. I am not arguing that, but it's a valid argument.

[DS1]

105. I don't think so

The only "God" related stuff I saw coming out of the last Tsunami was www.godhatessweden.com

[steve2470]

56. Major earthquake strikes off Indonesia; tsunami warning issued

http://www.macleans.ca/topstories/news/shownews.jsp?content=w032845A


BANGKOK, Thailand (AP) - A large earthquake struck off Indonesia's Sumatra Island in the Andaman Sea late Monday. The U.S. Geological Survey website described it as a "great" quake with magnitude of 8.2.

Thai officials issued a warning of a possible tsunami, three months after a tsunami devastated parts of Indonesia, Thailand and several other countries bordering on the Indian Ocean.

The quake occurred at 11:09 p.m. local time at a depth of nearly 30 kilometres, the USGS in Golden, Colo., said.

Japan's Meteorological Agency measured the quake at magnitude 8.5.

On Dec. 26, an undersea earthquake off Sumatra with a magnitude of more than 9.0 - the world's biggest quake in 40 years - sent a huge tsunami charging across the Indian Ocean at the speed of a passenger jet.
<snip>

[Endangered Specie]

58. Could be an aftershock from the 9.0 big one?

:shrug:

[montana_hazeleyes]

132. To my understanding ,Yes.

A 9.5 quake can generate probably several quakes around 8 for years.
There have been many, many ,many ongoing aftershock quakes from the one in Dec., some registering over 7.

There are geologists in the S.F. bay area where I live who say the 7.1 quake we had in 1989 could possibly have been an aftershock from the Big 1906 quake!

[Pacifist Patriot]

59. OMG! And I just had the most awful thought.

The last one was the day after Christmas and today is the day after Easter. I can't get over this sick feeling that Bush is going to take this as some sort of anti-Christian sign. Blech! Someone slap me out of that.

[dhinojosa]

61. Yikes

Tom Delay would certainly do that.

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

81. Re: The day after Christmas and day after Easter..

I thought the same thing...Isn't that sad?

Our country's been hijacked by right-wing nut jobs, or does it just seem that way? Maybe they're just getting too much media coverage.

[steve2470]

60. how did you stumble across this ? nt

[Gman]

63. I get USGS emails on earthquakes

I signed up to subscribe after the big one in December. I posted this right after I got the email on this one.

[Catchawave]

64. It's been all over cable news -nt

[geek tragedy]

62. What wingnut will be the first to say this is God expressing anger over

Schiavo?

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

82. Bingo.

[gkhouston]

88. Surely God's aim could be a bit better than that?

it's not like the people in Indonesia have anything to do with Terri Schiavo? Why should they have to pay for the right wing's insanity?

[meganmonkey]

91. Fred Phelps?

:puke:

[HeeBGBz]

126. If that were the case, it would hit here not there

It wouldn't make sense to anyone other than a right-to-vegetate fundie brain.

[lebkuchen]

69. CNNI is saying the quake lasted 3 minutes, 8.5 magnitude

SHIT!

Wonder what's going on in the over populated Jakarta~

[Catchawave]

70. DU beats CNN by 30 minutes!

I just got their Alert email on the earthquake, time stamped 30 minutes after Gman's post.

I'm going to cancel that e-subscription and tell them DU is more dependable than CNN for my news sources! heh.

[Pacifist Patriot]

99. LOL!

[nolabels]

109. That's why a lot of come here my friend

Aside from most having the most correct political interpretations of course :shrug:

[Catchawave]

131. Yep, exactly....the rest is just details! -nt

[kokofitz]

71. Link

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=586&e=1&u=/nm/20050328/wl_nm/quake_asia_dc

[allemand]

72. BBC World: No tsunami yet in Banda Aceh

This is a very good sign as Banda Aceh is relatively close to the epicenter.

[Gman]

73. They may be safe. Its been over 2 hours since the quake.

I think we would be hearing by now. It's been over 2 hours since the quake. We would have heard of a tsunami hitting Indonesia by now.

[RebelOne]

74. The report on Yahoo news said that if nothing happens

after 3 hours, they are safe.

[Roxy66]

78. It's actually just over an hour

[Shakespeare]

84. Nope, over 2 hours. Quake occurred at 11:09 am EST. n/t

[Zynx]

96. Banda Aceh would be shielded by its location on the island

That doesn't tell us much at all.

[allemand]

97. This town? Shielded?

Highly unlikely, IMHO.

[Ediacara]

75. Appears to be <75 km from 26 Dec epicenter

According to the preliminary USGS maps, this quake's epicenter is between Nias Island and Simeulue Island off the west coast of northwestern Sumatra. The 26 December quake's epicenter was Simeulue Island. I suspect that these are part of the same fault system, and would not be surprised if this was a (very very large) aftershock.

[Ediacara]

115. This map shows quakes >7.0 since 1900

The star marks this morning's quake. The large circle just north of Simeulue Island (to the north of today's quake) is the 26 December epicenter.

[Name removed]

116. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[allemand]

119. Tectonic stress moving south this time?

In 1861 there was a 8.5 earthquake and in 1833 a 9.0 earthquake in the area. The map shows the respective rupture zones.

[Ediacara]

120. It generally moves laterally along the rupture zone

Remeber just after the 26 December quake, the Andamans to the north were experiencing intense seismic actvity. There was no rupture to the south of the 26 December focus. Until today that is....

[allemand]

122. There was a report in Nature that the stress in the Sunda trench to the

south had increased.

New Asian quake threat warning
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4354217.stm

Now the same professor warns of the possibility of yet another massive earthquake, this time at the Sumatran fault.

Expert warns of third massive quake
http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0300nationalnews/tm_objectid=15342162&method=full&siteid=50061&headline=expert-warns-of-third-massive-quake-name_page.html

[Corgigal]

76. People watch the animals

If you see birds taking off, an elephant walking or anything smarter then us moving to higher ground. Do it.

[rocktivity]

77. The Northern Sumatrans didn't do anything to Terri Schiavo

Why do you suppose God is picking on them?

:(
rocknation

[paineinthearse]

87. 1:28PM FAUX - "day after Christmas / Easter"

In the opening line of her report, Faux correspondent Jennifer Griffin has breathlessly linked the dates between the two earthquakes: "interesting that the two earthquakes happened the day AFTER Christmas and the day AFTER Easter...."

Give me a flippin' break!

[Theres-a]

93. Perfect Let's stir the morans up,eh,fox?

[AllegroRondo]

94. God must have something against christians

[jdj]

112. oh, my friend, they won't interpret it that way.

LOL. hitting the country with the largest muslim population in the world, both one day after a major xtian holiday?

[Pacifist Patriot]

98. *sigh* I hate being right sometimes.

[paineinthearse]

89. 1:34PM Faux - "geometrically"

Talking head, trying to describe the Richter scale, says magnitude goes up "geometrically".

I'm not a geologist, but I belive it is a logrithmic scale. Would the correct term instead be "exponentially"?

[Willy Lee]

90. Yes, you're correct.

Geometrically= 2,4,8,16
Exponentially=1,10,100,1000 etc

Fox SUCKS!!!

[harlinnchi]

92. Geometric growth is exponential. It is a matter of degree...

Geometric growth doubles as in 1, 2, 4, 8, 16...
It is exponential but would be represented by a fairly flat parabola. Exponential growth includes geometric growth but also could be represented by other series like 1,10,100, 1000, 10,000.

I thought that with the Richter scales, each integer increase represented an order of magnitude. 'Course I could be wrong...

[jwcomer]

123. They are synonyms, nt.

[Dcitizen]

95. They issued warnings & running, so they are safe.

Thai, Malaysia, SIngapore, Indonesia, India, SriLanka are running.
Alert systems response much faster.

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/emergency/SA_TID.htm

[allemand]

100. Quake Seen Likely Forcing Tsunami Waves to South (Mauritius)

Monday, March 28, 2005 1:55:22 PM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A major earthquake off the coast of northern Sumatra on Monday is likely to have directed any tsunami waves toward the Indian Ocean island of Mauritius, a U.S. expert said.

Robert Cessaro of the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center said the quake, which he put at magnitude 8.5, was likely to have produced a tsunami because of its size, but this was probably in the form of a "beam of energy" heading to the south, he told CNN.

He said the massive quake that struck the region on Dec. 26 was now known to have directed most of its energy toward the north and that had relieved the underground stresses in that direction.

The latest quake was believed to have sent its main energy in the opposite direction, toward the Indian Ocean islands of Mauritius and Rodrigues, he said.

More:
http://www.metronews.ca/reuters_international.asp?id=64150

[Willy Lee]

104. "Dozens have died..."

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7316846/

I hope those numbers don't continue to rise.

[underseasurveyor]

107. USGS updated and increased the magnitude from 8.2 to 8.7

on their website. Yikes :-(

[Zynx]

108. QUAKE NOW 8.7!

Huge mother.

[Lone Pawn]

110. Jesus Christ!

My math is rusty, but that's what, five times greater than they thought?

[IndianaGreen]

111. Did you guys watched the USGS briefing on TV?

This is a very significant event. There are reports of heavy damage and casualties.

[Willy Lee]

113. It has been nearly 3 hours, no?

What are they saying about tsunami threat?

[IndianaGreen]

114. This was on about 10 minutes ago

The USGS guy predicted a tsunami and he also said there were a couple of aftershocks to the 8.7 mag that were in the 5 to 6 mag.

[Ediacara]

118. There is another LBN thread

Aparently the Indonesian Geophysics Agency (same sort of agency as the USGS) is claiming that there has been no tsunami. I am releived, but highly skeptical, as the areas of the coast that would have gotten hit by tsunami are mostly without even the most basic of communications to Jakarta. I assume that even in a "big city" like Banda Aceh, only very minimal telephone communication exists right now, if at all. PLUS, there was just a huge earthquake, which generally knocks out phone service, even if it were working!

ON EDIT: Plus, it was the middle of the night, and I assume most people ran to higher ground, and would be unable to see or hear the tsunami.

[derby378]

117. 50 confirmed dead on island of Nias

Just off the CNN feed - anyone else hear of casualties from the quake?

[allemand]

121. Expert warns of third massive quake

Mar 28 2005

An expert warned the quake off Sumatra made another massive earthquake in the region more likely. Professor John McCloskey predicted in the wake of the Boxing Day earthquake and tsunami that there was a likelihood of two more quakes in the region.

The University of Ulster based Geophysics expert, who studies earthquake dynamics said: "The location of the latest quake is exactly were we warned it would be. (...) Ominously he warned that the latest quake is likely to have added to the stresses on the earth's crust at the second site he was worried about and make a third massive quake a reality.

"It seems to me that this earthquake will also increase the stresses on the other site and make another quake more likely."
The fault line for the other site "runs right through the city of Banda Aceh" on the northern tip of Sumatra, he said.

More:
http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0300nationalnews/tm_objectid=15342162&method=full&siteid=50061&headline=expert-warns-of-third-massive-quake-name_page.html

[Zhade]

124. Those poor people.

Mother Nature is pissed. I shudder to think what's in store for US. Our karma is pretty bad.

[HeeBGBz]

125. Oh shit, not again

I hope every one got to high ground.

[smitty]

128. It could happen again

These Indonesian earthquakes may continue for some time. Back in the winter of 1811-12, the famous New Madrid earthquakes began;it was a series of the most powerful earthquakes ever to hit the continental United States and it went on for months. Indonesia is very seismically active as it is near the convergence of several tectonic plates.

http://quake.wr.usgs.gov/prepare/factsheets/NewMadrid/

[deadparrot]

129. So, did W rush back from his

vacation to sign a bill aiding these people?

No?:banghead:

[soup]

130. Major quake off Indonesia kills nearly 300

BANDA ACEH, Indonesia (AP) -- A powerful earthquake struck late Monday off Indonesia's west coast, killing nearly 300 people whose homes collapsed on them and spreading panic across the Indian Ocean that another killer tsunami was on the way.

But fears of a second tsunami catastrophe in just over three months eased within hours, as officials in countries at risk reported their coasts clear of the type of quake-spawned waves that ravaged a dozen countries in Asia and Africa on Dec. 26.

All of the deaths reported in the hours immediately after Monday's quake were on Indonesia's Nias island, off Sumatra's west coast, which was close to the epicenter.

In one town, Gunungsitoli, about 70 percent of buildings had collapsed in the market district, officials said.

"Hundreds of buildings have been damaged or have collapsed," said Agus Mendrofa, the island's deputy district head. He told el-Shinta radio station that at least 296 people had died in Gunungsitoli.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/I/INDONESIA_EARTHQUAKE?SITE=FLPET&SECTION=HOME

:cry:

[Jack Rabbit]

133. BBC Link (Tuesday 01:43 GMT)

From the BBC Online
Dated Tuesday March 29 01:43 GMT (Monday 5:43 pm PST)

Lethal quake rattles tsunami zone

A massive earthquake off the coast of Indonesia has killed hundreds of people and triggered tsunami alerts around the Indian Ocean.

The 8.7 magnitude quake struck just before midnight, destroying buildings on the Sumatra island of Nias.

Thousands of people fled their homes in Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand, India and Sri Lanka - areas still recovering from the deadly tsunami in December.

But three hours after the quake, tsunami alerts were scaled down.

Read more.

[DulceDecorum]

134. KICK

:kick:

[dArKeR]

135. This pic of motor transport is 'Normal' and not 'crowd' as AP says

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050328/481/xsp10203281936

Anyone who's been to Asia knows this.

[Liberty Belle]

136. Lethal Quake Rattles Tsunami Zone

Lethal quake rattles tsunami zone

A massive earthquake off the coast of Indonesia has killed hundreds of people and triggered tsunami alerts around the Indian Ocean.
The 8.7 magnitude quake struck just before midnight, destroying buildings on the Sumatra island of Nias...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4388579.stm

If you know anyone in the areas impacted by tsunamis before, please make sure they have this information. There could be aftershocks, and warnings now could save lives.

[Wilms]

137. Some Data

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/recenteqsww/Quakes/usweax.htm

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/recenteqsww/Maps/10/100_0.html

[Liberty Belle]

140. Someone else here posted that a tidal wave hit Australia.

:kick:

Nightowls, please keep kicking so anyone just logging on overseas (or those here who want to alert relatives over there) can see this.

Thanks.

[allemand]

141. Only a small tsunami, 25 to 50cm

Earlier, in Western Australia, waves of between 25 to 30cm were recorded at the port of Geraldton, 420km north of Perth, and waves of up to 50cm were reported at Penguin Island, off Rockingham, 50km south of Perth. (...)

Mr Reader said a 23cm quake-generated wave was recorded at 2.30am (WST) off the Cocos Islands, an Australian territory in the Indian Ocean 2,950km north-west of Perth. (...)

"Subsequent to that the only report we have had from the West Australian coastline is from Geraldton at 6am (WST) this morning where an estimated 25 to 30cm wave was recorded," he said. (...)

Mr Reader added an unofficial report from Penguin Island of a 50cm wave had also been received.

http://www.thecouriermail.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,12688103%255E953,00.html

[lovuian]

138. You have to wonder what hell Indonesia is going through!!!

I feel for these people they live in terror!!!

[MADem]

139. Death toll over 2K now according to cable n/t