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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 07:12 PM
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DeLay: Our Military Makes Our Academia Possible.

http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=42512


House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Texas) today said elite colleges and universities that block our nation's military from recruiting their students should be denied federal funds, as the House of Representatives voted to support military recruiters having the same access to college campuses as other prospective employers.

"Every year, thousands upon thousands of businesses, industries, nonprofit groups, and even other colleges recruit underclassmen to sign up to become investment bankers or computer engineers or environmental lawyers or medical students," DeLay said. "And yet, some colleges -- principally the elitist and elite colleges -- refuse to even allow military recruiters on their campuses".

"Such policies are obnoxious in times of peace, but they are simply intolerable in times of war, and the equal access of our military recruiters to federally funded colleges and universities must be protected," DeLay added. The House of Representatives voted on a resolution today showing Congress' continued commitment to U.S. military preparedness. It urges the executive branch to aggressively challenge any decision impeding or prohibiting Solomon's Law, which grants the secretary of defense power to deny federal funding to any college or university that prohibits or prevents ROTC or military recruitment on its campus. The resolution passed today by an overwhelming margin of 327-84.

"The opposition to the presence of veterans at their schools is not about academic freedom or civil liberties -- it's about them not liking the military, or the values our men and women in uniform represent. It's about many of them preferring the company of people who blame the United States for 9/11, who compare the World Trade Center victims to Nazis, to the company of a soldier or a sailor or an airman or a Marine. "America in the future will no doubt need its brilliant businessmen, lawyers, and poets, but such genius will do us no good without brilliant admirals and generals to protect them," DeLay concluded.


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http://dailydelay.blogspot.com/

Tom DeLay issued a statement criticizing some colleges and universities from not allowing military recruiters on campus.
That's a far cry from his own past. At the 1988 Republican National Convention, DeLay defended a fellow draft-dodger then-Vice Presidential candidate Dan Quayle. Back in 1999, a columnist for the Houston Press wrote about it:

He and Quayle, DeLay explained to the assembled media in New Orleans, were victims of an unusual phenomenon back in the days of the undeclared Southeast Asian war. So many minority youths had volunteered for the well-paying military positions to escape poverty and the ghetto that there was literally no room for patriotic folks like himself. Satisfied with the pronouncement, which dumbfounded more than a few of his listeners who had lived the sixties, DeLay marched off to the convention.

"Who was that idiot?" asked a TV reporter who arrived at the end of the media show. When he was told the name, it drew a blank. DeLay at that time was a national nobody, and his claim that blacks and browns crowded him and other good conservatives out of Vietnam seemed so outlandish and self-serving that no one bothered to file a news report on the congressman's remarks.




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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 07:15 PM
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1. And De Lay served in which branch of the military?
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da_chimperor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 07:16 PM
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3. The cheerleading squadron n/t
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 07:19 PM
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4. after the crap they pulled with the purple heart bandaids
and other things, it's so funny coming from them.

especially a chickenhawk like Tom Delay who said he wanted to serve in the military but the minorities had taken up all the spaces.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 07:16 PM
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2. Ah, fascism. It's respectable as long as it's called something else.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 07:19 PM
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5. DeLay is blowing smoke
:wtf:

The crux of the debate is 'should any organization that discriminages on the basis of sexual orientation be allowed to recruit on campuses?' I know of at least one law school and one college that have such policies, they disallow the DoD because it discriminates.

Jim McGovern (D-Ma-3) was leading the Dems' side of the debate today.

Go, Jim!!! :thumbsup:
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 07:22 PM
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6. What's the difference between an elitist and an elite college?
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 07:23 PM
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7. Delay also said in 2003
"Nothing is more important in the face of war than cutting taxes."

This guy's fucked up.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 07:47 PM
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12. He also once said "I am the Federal government"
He said it to a government employee who told him to stop smoking his cigar on government propertu.

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Tom_Delay

Delay is such a fucking jackass.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 07:31 PM
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8. Lift the ban on gays in the military and we'll talk
Most civilized universities, public and private, have rules that bar any job recruiter from campus unless that organization signs a non-discrimination pledge, and yes that includes sexual orientation. When the Pentagon agrees to sign this pledge, we'll talk. The Pentagon is not above the law, no matter what Richard Perle says.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 07:34 PM
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9. Recruiters banned from campus does not
prevent one from joining the military. If Delay is so gungho and pro military where is his speech encouraging conservatives to enlist and fight the war they support? Why, the bug killer could hire on at halliburton and drive a truck through fallujah. Such an experience would tighten the fascist's spincter to the point that he would change his tone as only the tone of a cowardly conservative chickenhawk tone could be changed.

Folks, the neocons are getting desperate. They have failed in their efforts to abolish the constitution and now are diminished to even more shrill rhetoric.
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 07:38 PM
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10. De Lay is such a turd, he must write for Rush or the other way around
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 07:46 PM
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11. >>it's about them not liking the military,
Edited on Wed Feb-02-05 07:51 PM by 4MoronicYears
>>or the values our men and women in uniform represent.<<

In my country, the one I used to live in... we were allowed to like and dislike whatever we chose. We called it democracy... alas it has become a fascist state now...


Values... oh yeah... those frigging values, kiss my ass. Moral high ground you've got to be kidding me... loser. Why are some politicians so full of shit, it goes beyond my ability to comprehend... truly amazing.

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