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True_Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 10:31 PM
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Medicare to cover Viagra, similar sex performance drugs
WASHINGTON (AP) Sexual performance drugs such as Viagra will be covered in Medicare's new prescription drug program, a lifestyle rather than lifesaving benefit that conservatives and watchdog groups say the government shouldn't provide.

Like those for maladies such as high blood pressure and heart disease, prescriptions for Viagra and similar drugs in its class will be tightly controlled. The new prescription coverage begins Jan. 1 and is expected to cost more than $500 billion over the next decade.

``The law says if it's an FDA-approved drug and it is medically necessary, it has to be covered,'' said Gary Karr, spokesman for the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, which administers the health insurance program for older Americans.

Pfizer's Viagra, Bayer's Levitra and Eli Lilly & Co.'s Cialis are used primarily to treat erectile dysfunction. Viagra might also prove useful in treating enlarged hearts that can result from high blood pressure.

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http://cbs4boston.com/nhnews/NH--Medicare-Viagra-en/resources_news_html
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hangemhigh Donating Member (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 10:36 PM
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1. Imagine my shock!
A gift from chimp to Phucking Phizer! Who woulda thought?
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 08:54 AM
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21. This is absurd! But I'm sure our RW rulers will "keep it up."
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 10:44 PM
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2. Strange tales from strange times ..
I have to take Viagra because of my B/P meds (atenolol). The beta-blocker kills the libido. Period. So I titrate myself with a drug to get a hard-on. It satisfies my libido at my age of 56, but it will probably kill me in the shorter term. Know what I mean Vern?





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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 10:57 PM
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5. You might want to have your doctor prescribe testosterone for the libido.
PM me if you want.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 11:35 PM
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8. I know what you mean, Mac
:7
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 10:44 PM
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3. but are my birth control pills covered?
Thought not. :mad: :mad: :mad:
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 11:08 PM
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6. If men got pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament.
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 12:41 AM
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10. Simone deBeauvoir said that
Every viagra pill ought to arrive wrapped in a certificate good for a free abortion. Or at least be packaged with a Plan B.

I said that.
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telamachus Donating Member (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 07:56 AM
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18. assuming
that the man or woman chooses not to use birth control. In the case of Medicare it is unlikely that pregnancy will occur with 65+ year old men having sex. I doubt that there are many fertile women having sex with 65+ men and in any case if they are older and fertile they are probably wise enough to practice responsible family planning.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 07:40 PM
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30. Does the term "Sugar-daddy" ring a bell?
I doubt that there are many fertile women having sex with 65+ men
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telamachus Donating Member (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 04:22 PM
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31. the sugar daddy could pay for it then
and would not need insurance to cover it.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 07:23 PM
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33. Yes, but, still, male sex is covered, female sex is punished.
That's also why the anti-abortion laws locked up the women, and the abortion docs, but never went looking for the men who impregnated them.

That's the best argument against a lifer: Write the law for the men. Shuts em right up!
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 07:39 PM
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29. A very wise and eloquent woman.
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 08:59 AM
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24. Yeah! AND it would be offered as a *free* service within
every damn WalMart and Target within the good ole' US of A. :puke: They'd probably provide a complementary box of ammo for the MALE abortion recipient's rifle or shotgun ... as an expression of gratitude for controllin' da population explosin'.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 01:06 AM
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11. I thought Medicare only covered seniors in the U.S.
So birth control wouldn't be needed. I am not American, so I don't know the details of U.S. Medicare. I don't know if Viagra and similar drugs are covered by Canadian medicare.
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teakee Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 03:25 AM
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13. You can be disabled and get Medicare.
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telamachus Donating Member (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 07:58 AM
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19. I believe it is Medicaid
not Medicare that justly covers those with disabilities.
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teakee Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 01:58 PM
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26. No, it is Medicare if you are on SSDI.
If you are on SSI, because you didn't have enough credits built up, you get SSI and Medicaid. You wait, fight longer for SSDI since you will be disabled long term. Once you are awarded SSDI, it is 2 years from the point of the disability to receive Medicare.

I am 44, and I have Medicare Parts A and B. I pay for part B. I had enough credits built up for SSDI too.

SSI only gets Medicaid.

It is rather confusing. But when you are disabled and paid into SS, there is a BIG difference.
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Isere Donating Member (920 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 10:52 PM
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4. Boners Rule!
Ain't it the truth! In Japan, they approved Viagra before they approved birth control pill!

What a joke! Viagra is a pill that allows an impotent man to get a boner. Maybe he is impotent because of diabetes or vascular disease...so the taxpayer should pay for his boner?

OK, I think that's great. Make love, not war!

But what about all the other things that Medicare does not cover!!! What about the 45 million uninsured! What about the kids who don't get vaccines? Or what about the people who need medical equipment such as wheelchairs or hospital beds or visiting nurses?

If this were a pill only intended for use by women, does anyone on the face of this planet think it would be covered by Medicare?!!!


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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 04:29 AM
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14. Dem bones, dem bones gonna rise again!
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 11:33 PM
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7. Figures...anything for the good old boys club.
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ebayfool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 02:08 AM
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12. ...anything for the good old boys chub?
sorry, had to say it!
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abandon_ship Donating Member (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 09:24 PM
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37. now i can sneak in a quickie between matlock and shuffleboard
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L.A.dweller Donating Member (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 11:35 PM
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9. Bush wants to set the clock back a century or two
to a time when the only role of women was to reproduce and stay home.
This is evident when we examine the living(?) specimen of Laura Bush.
Yeah, it is great that she will take the time out of her wonderful life to read some childrens book to a group of kids... but come on! That woman's brain is dead as a piece of hamburger.
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 09:27 AM
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25. Yes, but dear L.A.dweller ...
Edited on Wed Feb-02-05 09:28 AM by ElectroPrincess
Albeit Laura is a willing tool for everything her husband wants to unleash on the "little people" of the USA, you forgot ONE, and perhaps THE most important qualifier ...

Laura Bush's plastic surgery was a smashing success, and dammit, she looks good! Nobody can deny her beauty.

Like Billy Crystal's (don't confuse with the thug Neo-Con) character used to endlessly proclaim on SNL:

"It's better to LOOK GOOD" ---> above all else, the only thing that matters is the wrapping not the substance of the package.

Welcome to Brave New World a.k.a. *World.
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Massachusetts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 07:28 AM
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15. So thats why all those retired Guys and Gals are smiling at the
coffee shop first thing in the morning.:bounce: It sounds good to me.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 07:30 AM
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16. SO - When does the birth conrtol pill coverage start?
And condoms? IUDs, etc?
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telamachus Donating Member (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 07:51 AM
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17. Age 65
can a woman get pregnant at that age? Birth control is not much of an issue here...the real issue has been stated enough already...
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 02:18 PM
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28. related question (from outside the US):
does Medicaid (coverage for those on welfare, right?) cover birth control?
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mantis49 Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 05:56 PM
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32. not in IL. n/t
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 09:43 PM
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38. who gives a shit about AGE?
the fact is they cover men getting boners but routinely deny woman coverage THEY TRULY NEED
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Mend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 08:48 AM
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20. wonder if hormone replacement therapy for women
will be covered? The treatment for menopausal symptoms.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 08:54 AM
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22. This is fucked up
We can't even afford to get my wife covered for things like a broken leg, yet the government is buying people FUCKING BONER PILLS!!!

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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 08:54 AM
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23. Bush mentioned this in the debates. "Want some wood?"
Bush's followers no doubt will see this as a wonderful republican entitlememt program.
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 09:01 PM
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35. Hilarious :-) n/t
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 02:03 PM
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27. Interesting that they don't cover...
anything related to smoking cessation or mental health.
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Sgent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 08:34 PM
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34. What are you talking about????
Mental health is very much covered by Medicare currently, and I would be shocked if they didn't cover psychotropic drugs.

As for smoking cesstation (and birth control for that matter) they way Medicare is setup, it can't cover it unless congress changes the law.

Medicare only covers the treatment diagnosis of diseases. There are specific exceptions (a lot of them) for certain preventative items, but there is no broad coverage for prevention.
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abandon_ship Donating Member (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 09:19 PM
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36. i get a bone just thinking about it, now it's time for my nap....zzzzzz
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