(Bush) Officials Say Bush Uranium Claim Accurate

[NNN0LHI]

So we are back to this again. It either was or it was not. Which one is it?

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=2&u=/ap/20030713/ap_on_re_mi_ea/bush_intelligence

WASHINGTON - The Bush administration said Sunday the president's statement in the State of the Union address about Iraq (news - web sites)'s seeking uranium was accurate and is supported by other British and U.S. information.

Nevertheless, said Condoleezza Rice (news - web sites), the national security adviser, the statement should not have been in the Jan. 20 speech, in which Bush laid out reasons for military action against Iraq. "We have a higher standard for presidential speeches" than raw intelligence, she told "Fox News Sunday."

Rice said Bush's claim was a small component of his case against Saddam Hussein (news - web sites).

"It is ludicrous to suggest that the president of the United States went to war on the question of whether Saddam Hussein sought uranium from Africa," Rice said. "This was a part of a very broad case that the president laid out in the State of the Union and other places.

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[jeanmarc]

1. I wish we could lock them all up in separate cells

They cannot get their story straight. It was Tenet's mistake, no wait, the statement is accurate, Blair stands by his story.

""We have a higher standard for presidential speeches" than raw intelligence, she told "Fox News Sunday." "

Oh yeah? What about that October speech, Condi? You took it out of that one, what suddenly changed between October and January? That's a far better question than suggesting nothing changed between 1998 and year 2003.

Lies, lies, lies!

[phillybri]

2. I'd like to ask a serious question here.....

WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!!!!!!

They're contradicting themselves (yet) again!!! They officially announce that the claim was false, but NOW it's true???

My brain stem is melting....

[Oreegone]

3. Condeleeza says "its only one statement"

She says its only one statement so it doesn't count, you mean like "I did not have sex with that woman"...oh yeah that was consensual sex a cardinal sin....we only killed 7,000 Iraqies and 260+ military people and how many wounded Iraqies and soldiers with this little white lie???,,,,,we will probably never know......

[PurityOfEssence]

11. Higher standards

Those who can destroy the world should be held to higher standards of competence.

I like your numbers. I still don't know how many Iraqi soldiers were killed, and they're generally dismissed as "guilty, so who cares?" anyway. That's wrong. Much as I loathe Junior, if the enemy was at my gates and the local boys put a gun in my hand, I'd probably fight too. That makes me a Bushie by that definition.

We need the full number, since this was a manufactured war stemming from no real emergency other than getting the '02 election to go the right way. EVERY DEATH is Junior's personal fault. Not just the widows and ophans, but every one. That's the number that should be used.

George W. Bush used lies, innuendo and forgeries to terrorize the people into letting him go on a greedy war of conquest and revenge that has killed over 10,000 human beings. That's the message. The number should be constantly corrected.

(Not railing at you; you're doing the right thing and mentioning the right numbers. It's about humans who are no more.)

[ChompySnack]

4. My guess

They met with someone in the Niger government while over there in Africa and made a deal to provide that "other" evidence that Blair has been crowing about.

Now that the deal is in place, they are once again confident to lie about it.

[Bozola]

5. That's the point.

They've already been caught on a big lie, so now they're sowing confusion with "little" lies. They'll keep it up until interest wanes.

[rocketdem]

7. if your brian stem melts

Does that then mean you're now qualified to vote Repuglican? ;-)

I don't think that I've ever seen a less competent job of "cover your ass." If you're engaging in this kind of two-step months after the invasion, that to me suggests you never had enough to justify your actions in the first place. Invading another nation, toppling a regime, starting a war, these have to be the most significant and serious decisions that any administration could make. If you don't have your story straight, really straight, right up front, then you have no business conducting a war. That much should be clear to everyone, regardless of party affiliation. Or at least I would hope so.

[Skip Intro]

6. Raw intel not Presidential -

Cooked intel yes, but not raw...

[C_eh_N_eh_D_eh]

8. She's been taking lessons from Rummy again.

"It is ludicrous to suggest that the president of the United States went to war on the question of whether Saddam Hussein sought uranium from Africa," Rice said.

Of course, it's ludicrous to suggest such a thing, but that's not what the (substantially more) loyal opposition is doing. Rice is taking the huge, complicated body of accusations and evidence that they've built against the Shrub Gang, picking out a few buzzwords almost at random, rearranging them into one or two sentences worth of ludicrous garbage, and claiming that those sentences are the opposition's entire case.

Sounds familiar, doesn't it?

[UpInArms]

9. from the insane NewsMax - the official freeper rebuttal

is:

Report: CIA Source on Niger Nuke Flap is a Bush-Hater

http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2003/7/13/120515

"He's a vehement opponent of the Bush administration," says May, noting that two weeks before the war Wilson was slamming Bush in the notoriously left-wing "Nation" magazine.

Arguing that the White House had "imperial ambitions," Wilson claimed that under Bush, "America has entered one of it periods of historical madness"

Adding to Wilson's partisan pedigree, May noted that the supposedly objective analyst "was an outspoken opponent of U.S. military intervention in Iraq" with a resume that includes a stint as an "adjunct scholar" at the pro-Saudi Middle East Institute.

Sounding like a disciple of Jane Fonda, Wilson complained in other writings that Bush's "new imperialists will not rest until governments that ape our world view are implanted throughout the region, a breathtakingly ambitious undertaking, smacking of hubris in the extreme."

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ROFLMAO!!!!

[Star]

14. Wow, talk about taking things out of context!

Here's the article by Wilson:

http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20030303&s=wilson


Per Newsmax: Wilson claimed that under Bush, "America has entered one of it periods of historical madness"

Per The Nation: Nations that worry that, as John le Carré puts it, "America has entered one of its periods of historical madness" will not want to jettison the one institution that, absent a competing military power, might constrain US ambition.

[pansypoo53219]

10. forget fuzzy math

is this fuzzy 'truth'? fuzzy history?
how about a new BS-FUZZY TRUTH.

[Gin]

12. It's true......... * repeated what the statement said...

...that's the only truth...the information wasn't accurate.

They are playing a semantics game with the truth. Tenent said the same thing...it was parroted from the information....but the words were a lie.

[salin]

13. These folks are so arrogant they don't even care about their lack of

credibility. All of this back and forth - and issuing statements that do not jibe with everything else are creating a far bigger credibility problem then the one Rush created for Gore re: Internet and Love Story.

They aren't even concerned about their growing credibility problem. They seem to continue to operate under the assumption that all Americans are stupid and can be easily fooled if one repeats the unplausable but "nice" sounding explanation enough times.

Problem is that over time their pattern of deception gets caught onto by more and more folks. As Nixon found, only the most diehard believers continued to believe in him by the very end. It wasn't the break-in that did him in. It wasn't even JUST the coverup. It was the long pattern of abuse of power that was suddenly laid bare for all to see.

[study_war_no_more]

16. LIHOP is coming

NT

[Room101]

15. Orwellian Doublthink at its finest....

I'm at a lost for words.