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BradBlog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 07:53 AM Original message |
EXCLUSIVE: Daniel Ellsberg Says Sibel Edmonds Case 'Far More Explosive Than Pentagon Papers' |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 07:54 AM Response to Original message |
1. Thanks for all you do to keep this alive. |
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midlife_mo_Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 01:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
100. Tell the foreign media, and find asylum somewhere! |
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MidwestTransplant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 01:53 AM Response to Reply #100 |
181. That's what I was thinking. Surely the British papers would publish it. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 08:01 AM Response to Original message |
2. Gotta hope this will change. Thank you. n/t |
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Hubert Flottz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 08:07 AM Response to Original message |
3. "Bring It On!" |
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Kansas Wyatt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 08:44 AM Response to Reply #3 |
13. The Democrats will sweep it under the rug |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 09:36 AM Response to Reply #3 |
34. Not if she's DEAD. |
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yodermon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 11:22 AM Response to Reply #34 |
57. This woman is brilliant and tenacious. |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 09:37 PM Response to Reply #34 |
168. Absolutely--we all need to pray for this brave lady! |
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superkia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 04:36 PM Response to Reply #3 |
144. I dont think our system is corrupted by only one party, so keep... |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 08:08 AM Response to Original message |
4. And sadly, very sadly, nothing will ever come of this. |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 09:40 AM Response to Reply #4 |
35. If people haven't figured out that we really DON'T have a choice by now... |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 06:11 PM Response to Reply #35 |
157. She'll protect and further BushInc just like Bill did and THAT is my concern. |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 01:35 PM Response to Reply #4 |
98. (my mother's prediction: "she's not going to get in. and neither is obama." ) |
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JohnyCanuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 08:09 AM Response to Original message |
5. K&R |
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ClayZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 08:12 AM Response to Original message |
6. K and R |
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Norrin Radd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 08:26 AM Response to Original message |
7. k+r |
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Lint Head (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 08:27 AM Response to Original message |
8. There needs to be an act if disobedience to bring attention |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 08:30 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. I think we frogs have lounged in the hot tub too long to jump out. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 08:31 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. When you come up with it, let us know. |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 09:43 AM Response to Reply #8 |
37. Oh... I have a great one. |
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Dr.Phool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 11:00 AM Response to Reply #8 |
53. "Leak" it to Bob Novak. |
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StateSecrets (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 11:06 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Good One:-) |
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druidity33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 08:38 AM Response to Original message |
11. when was the last time |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 08:43 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. The basics of her story is well known in the world. |
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druidity33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 09:09 AM Response to Reply #12 |
26. surely |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 09:13 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. I don't have any answers other than everything is very tight and closed. |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 09:34 AM Response to Reply #12 |
33. I think you're way off on that one |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 10:01 AM Response to Reply #33 |
39. There has been a documentary in Europe. |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 10:04 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. When Europe can impeach OUR president, I'll be impressed. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 10:06 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. You're twisting things. |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 10:09 AM Response to Reply #42 |
43. No, I'm not twisting anything |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 10:15 AM Original message |
Are you talking about this line? |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 10:28 AM Response to Reply #43 |
48. Would this better suit you? |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 11:30 AM Response to Reply #48 |
62. I'm not exactly sure what the argument is, then |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 11:34 AM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Very true. |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 10:15 PM Response to Reply #62 |
172. If Sibel tells her story to the foreign press it will work just fine. |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 12:15 PM Response to Reply #33 |
73. She was featured on 60 Minutes, maybe its time for a big follow-up...K&R n/t |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:26 PM Response to Reply #33 |
127. Agree -- I'm only aware of her and the situation because of DU. nt |
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StateSecrets (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 08:51 AM Response to Original message |
14. K & R |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 08:52 AM Response to Original message |
15. Why won't the Dems call her to testify under oath? |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 08:54 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Things to hide, positions to hold, people to protect I suppose. |
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dmr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 02:23 PM Response to Reply #17 |
112. And the willingness to be pliable, moldable and led about |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 10:05 PM Response to Reply #15 |
171. Oswald was CIA --- no one is powerful enough to bring that story forth --- |
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DemoTex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 08:54 AM Response to Original message |
16. K&R for Sibel Edmonds |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:28 PM Response to Reply #16 |
128. And for Mike Gravel who introduced the Pentagon Papers into the Public Record. nt |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 08:55 AM Response to Original message |
18. Why Doesn't She Just Put Up a Blog? |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 08:59 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. She has these |
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Tarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 09:31 AM Response to Reply #19 |
32. Neither of those sites work for me |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 10:09 AM Response to Reply #32 |
44. Are you at home or at work through a server? |
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Tarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 07:23 PM Response to Reply #44 |
161. I was at work before |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 08:35 PM Response to Reply #161 |
166. Very good. |
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AikidoSoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:23 PM Response to Reply #32 |
125. I can see both fine. No problem in either Mozilla (Firefox), or Internet Explorer N/T |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:31 PM Response to Reply #125 |
129. No problem with Safari, either. nt |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 11:41 AM Response to Reply #19 |
66. Great site |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 12:14 PM Response to Reply #66 |
72. Yep. She's straight forward. |
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lukery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 09:02 AM Response to Original message |
20. great work |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 09:04 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. You forgot to list yourself. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 10:15 AM Response to Reply #21 |
46. square that.... |
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vickitulsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 12:49 AM Response to Reply #21 |
178. YES, thank you Lukery. |
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NoFederales (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 09:05 AM Response to Original message |
22. Several of our high ranking politicians know the details of her story-- |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 09:07 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. You are so right. |
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StateSecrets (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 09:08 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. NY Times & The NSA Story |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 09:10 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Yep. |
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lukery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 09:25 AM Response to Reply #24 |
30. pakistan nukes |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 09:08 AM Response to Original message |
25. And the general public yawns and says..Daniel WHO?.. |
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Homer Wells (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:32 PM Response to Reply #25 |
131. Maybe---Just Maybe |
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StateSecrets (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:52 PM Response to Reply #131 |
137. sadly it's true |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 06:46 PM Response to Reply #137 |
159. I think daddy Hilton would probably disinherit Paris if she helped Sibel... |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 09:19 AM Response to Original message |
29. Also. |
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lukery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 09:26 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. thnx n/t |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
36. and this is one story that Waxman will NOT touch (as far as I know) |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 09:46 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Yes, he promised. Then reneged. Someone got to him. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 10:16 AM Response to Reply #38 |
47. You mean the same people who deep-sixed the Dec 1992 BCCI report? |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 10:39 AM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Just speculating. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 10:42 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Not me. I know it outright. ;))) |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 10:43 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Tell it. |
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NoFederales (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 11:14 AM Response to Reply #38 |
55. "They" showed him the instruments, |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 12:40 PM Response to Reply #38 |
82. That or he's just another Congressional liar and was called on his bluff. |
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whyzayker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
40. This part bothered me (KO) |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
45. Unfortunately, even some DUers side with secrecy and privilege and continue to deny |
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StateSecrets (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 10:54 AM Response to Reply #45 |
52. A separate Thread |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 11:39 AM Response to Reply #52 |
65. I have. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
56. "But not from here?," we asked incredulously. |
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StateSecrets (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 11:23 AM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Not Us... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 11:28 AM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Yeah... I thought the "we" there referred to the bradblog staff... |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
59. Is it there a connection between Dems not moving on impeachment |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 11:36 AM Response to Reply #59 |
64. Very much possible. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 11:44 AM Response to Reply #59 |
67. And THAT is what compels me to stay on the corruption of closed government. |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
61. Justice is waiting in the telling of her story. Our media and government are holding us hostage! |
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StateSecrets (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 11:46 AM Response to Reply #61 |
68. Doing Our Share |
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snappyturtle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
69. My head is spinning! SIbel is right in holding the msm guilty......of |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
70. I just called Linktv about airing Sibel. |
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StateSecrets (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 12:13 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Good Job! |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 12:16 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. Very good. |
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lukery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 12:24 PM Response to Reply #70 |
77. thanks for calling |
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StateSecrets (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 12:28 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. Call List |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 02:08 PM Response to Reply #70 |
109. When I donated to Link and Free Speech TV earlier, I'd asked for them to air "Kill the Messenger"... |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:43 PM Response to Reply #109 |
133. And there is Democracy Now. |
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NoodleyAppendage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
75. BLAH, BLAH, BLAH...tell your story to the Guardian UK or Times Herald AND BE DONE WITH IT! |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 12:21 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. The Guardian already ran her story. |
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NoodleyAppendage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 12:29 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. And, why not all? Did she fail to tell them all? WTF? |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 12:36 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. What's your issue and why do you call bullshit? |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 12:41 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. The call of "BS" is that she won't tell whatever she has except to US media |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 12:43 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. I suppose she could but why risk it |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 12:57 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. The Guardian is "nobody"? |
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NoodleyAppendage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 01:17 PM Response to Reply #87 |
91. Exactly. The Downing Street Memos were broken overseas, too. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 01:44 PM Response to Reply #91 |
102. Why would you gag someone to the point of being the most |
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NoodleyAppendage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 02:11 PM Response to Reply #102 |
110. All I know is the routes she wishes to take appear to be going nowhere. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:06 PM Response to Reply #110 |
122. I don't think Noodley or I are being anti-Sibel |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:04 PM Response to Reply #102 |
121. What did she tell them, and when? And if they know what she said why aren't they saying it? |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:23 PM Response to Reply #121 |
126. Maybe this will help. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:48 PM Response to Reply #126 |
135. A link to the order(s) gagging her would help |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 04:08 PM Response to Reply #135 |
140. Nobody is questioning she has been gagged. Why you? |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 04:15 PM Response to Reply #140 |
142. Why not? |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 04:54 PM Response to Reply #142 |
147. Maybe this helps persuade you? |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 04:14 PM Response to Reply #135 |
141. This excerpt from 60 minutes concerning the PEN Newman Award help? |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 01:40 PM Response to Reply #87 |
101. I did not say the Guardian is nothing.. |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 05:05 PM Response to Reply #79 |
148. Look at at this way.... |
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BornagainDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 01:02 PM Response to Reply #75 |
88. You fucking idiot the whole point is to get the US media to print it! |
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NoodleyAppendage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 01:19 PM Response to Reply #88 |
93. Truth is truth...no matter who prints it. Idiocy is measured in a lack of perspective. |
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lukery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 01:21 PM Response to Reply #88 |
95. it would be unwise for me to echo your sentiments |
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BornagainDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 06:20 PM Response to Reply #95 |
193. You couldn't have dedicated your blog to a better person. |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 04:31 PM Response to Reply #75 |
143. Hip Hip Hooray! |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 05:43 PM Response to Reply #143 |
152. And what business is that? |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 02:48 PM Response to Reply #152 |
187. The business of getting the information out, obviously. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 04:12 PM Response to Reply #187 |
190. But it can't be something no one pays attention to except activists |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
80. The more people speak out about this the safer SE is. KR |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 12:41 PM Response to Reply #80 |
84. You just hit the nail on the head. The abusers stay in power as long as the people stay silent |
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wildbilln864 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
86. K&R! n/t |
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ajeffersonian (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
89. Why not use foreign media? |
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StateSecrets (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 01:15 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. well-put |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 01:18 PM Response to Reply #89 |
92. POST OF THE DAY! |
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StateSecrets (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 01:27 PM Response to Reply #92 |
97. Thanks to Ellsberg, Brad, & Lukery |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 01:19 PM Response to Reply #89 |
94. Exactly - and pushing it off to foreign media shows this nation is in deep trouble |
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NoodleyAppendage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 01:24 PM Response to Reply #89 |
96. Yeah, right. So, she'd rather beat her head against the proverbial brick wall? |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 01:47 PM Response to Reply #96 |
103. What would the penalties be for the most gagged person in US history? |
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StateSecrets (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 02:00 PM Response to Reply #103 |
105. Yes! |
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ajeffersonian (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 01:48 PM Response to Reply #96 |
104. Better than beating her head on a jail cell wall |
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NoodleyAppendage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 02:08 PM Response to Reply #104 |
108. Logical fallacy? Imprisoned regardless of where the information is published. |
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ajeffersonian (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 02:29 PM Response to Reply #108 |
114. Where does make a difference |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 02:50 PM Response to Reply #108 |
118. Definitely harder to explain to a public exposed to what she has to say. |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 02:14 PM Response to Reply #89 |
111. How about BBC America... |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 02:23 PM Response to Reply #111 |
113. BBC America crossed my mind as well. |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 02:29 PM Response to Reply #113 |
115. Promote it when they air a new episode of Torchwood on Saturday night... |
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StateSecrets (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 02:53 PM Response to Reply #115 |
119. Good Idea |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:44 PM Response to Reply #119 |
134. What about PBS? Their Cheney's Law was somewhat ballsy -- they might |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 04:54 PM Response to Reply #119 |
146. Better hurry though. I think there are only two new episodes left this season... |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:35 PM Response to Reply #111 |
132. I put much more faith in BBC before the "America" tag got added to it. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 05:08 PM Response to Reply #132 |
149. I understand completely. |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
99. she needs to talk to the media somewhere else so our media can |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
106. The Edmunds story can never be revealed because it exposes both Dems and Repubs, this does |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
107. And yet Sources like CNN MSNBC Fox ABC are all trustworthy |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
116. Contacts |
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StateSecrets (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 02:47 PM Response to Reply #116 |
117. Thank you mmonk!! |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
120. NeoConvicts are cockroaches they loath the spot light the truth shines on them. |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
123. All she needs to do is publish it herself online. What's the big deal if she won't do that? |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
124. I'm NOT advocating this, but I wonder how a strategy like this would work? .... |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
130. She needs to forget about the US media whores and take it somewhere else. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
136. Went to Wikipedia to see what they had: NOTHING! |
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Jackilope (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 04:44 PM Response to Reply #136 |
145. Wiki link for Sibel |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 05:52 PM Response to Reply #145 |
154. Thank you! Jeez - I was typing in EDWARDS - been hanging out on DU to much lately! nt |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 07:55 PM Response to Reply #154 |
164. Ha! |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
138. How about Bill Moyers? |
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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 04:01 PM Response to Reply #138 |
139. This is where I think she should go too... |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 11:06 PM Response to Reply #138 |
176. Bill Moyers contact info: |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 09:27 AM Response to Reply #176 |
186. Thanks mmonk |
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HuffleClaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
150. having been targeted by anthrax will do that |
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roxnev (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
151. The MSM is the Repblican party |
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PollThis (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 05:49 PM Response to Original message |
153. Bill Moyers should do a piece on this. nt |
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PollThis (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 05:52 PM Response to Reply #153 |
155. Sorry just noticed the post above. nt |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 07:41 PM Response to Reply #155 |
163. I think it's a good idea. |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
156. k&r |
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wiggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
158. knr for Sibel, always. Someone ought to put Sibel and Valerie in the same room together. nt |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 07:16 PM Response to Original message |
160. Keep after it! |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
162. so, she should GO TO THE UK and give a presentation |
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graphixtech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
165. now you've gone and done it :) |
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humbled_opinion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
167. American Democracy is Dead... n/t |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
169. One way to move the story and protect Sibel is IMPEACHMENT . . . . |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
170. no 4th estate now, however n/t |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
173. Does Sibel Edmonds have legal representation --- ??? Who --- ??? |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 10:34 PM Response to Reply #173 |
174. She's had these attorneys represent her in the past. |
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lukery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 01:41 AM Response to Reply #174 |
180. also, Mark Zaid |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 02:19 AM Response to Reply #174 |
183. Maybe she could appeal to the ABA for some ideas? Get some lawyers working pro bono for her? |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 10:50 PM Response to Original message |
175. I'm kind of surprised that he would say this but if HE does, it probably is! n/t |
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Kurovski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
177. K&R. (nt) |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 01:22 AM Response to Original message |
179. Why is it that she can "go to the media" and release this explosive story... |
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file83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 03:29 AM Response to Reply #179 |
184. The story published in an established journal has more "credibility". |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 05:02 PM Response to Reply #184 |
191. sounds like bullshit to me. If it doesn't get published at all... |
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Oilwellian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 02:01 AM Response to Original message |
182. Seymour Hersh would tackle it |
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DemReadingDU (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 09:09 AM Response to Original message |
185. morning kick |
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wiggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
188. Just what do we think will happen WHEN Sibel's story comes out? I am |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
189. It's a daunting task trying to wake this nation up, |
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
192. the GoP/Media Establishment sitting on stories until after the election -- no way. |
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