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kansasblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 10:00 PM
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"Emergency Townhall Meetings" CA-50 Here we go!
Edited on Mon Jun-19-06 10:09 PM by kansasblue



Busby/Bilbray 'Emergency Townhalls' and Some RFK Jr. E-Voting Litigation to Come…

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=2982


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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 11:54 PM
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1. Thanks
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 12:20 AM
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2. K&R...LETS GET THIS PARTY STARTED!! ........ nt
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 12:27 AM
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3. Indymedia should be covering this
This should be distributed far and wide.

No more criminal abuse of the voting process!
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 12:40 AM
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4. Right on!
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 01:09 AM
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5. How exciting, lawsuits forthcoming!!
Can much be done about this situation before the Nov. elections tho? If nothing else it might make those watching the election areas with complaints actually be listened to.
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 01:18 AM
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6. I am not sure, but it probably would only
take a few days to print out PAPER BALLOTS in which we can HAND COUNT and record at THE PRECINCT LEVEL. STRIPPING the neocons of their control over our elections. So yes I think we have time to GET IT DONE! ;)
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 02:08 AM
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7. So does that mean the decision to use paper ballots
Edited on Tue Jun-20-06 02:09 AM by lyonn
is up to a Secretary of each State? If so, Big Pressure needs to be put on them.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 03:54 AM
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8. Some states' laws mandate a paper trail
I think what kster meant was that paper records of the mechanized votes could be printed, and hand counts could be performed on them.

Here in West Virginia a paper trail is mandated by state law, and is not a matter of discretion of the Secretary of State or anyone else. When I voted in our pirmary via touch screen, a paper record was generated for my review and stored for possible future reference.
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 05:39 PM
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11. Thanks for info
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 02:53 PM
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10. will never happen, our Maryland SOS loooooves Diebold
Edited on Tue Jun-20-06 02:53 PM by MissWaverly
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 07:02 PM
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12. Lyonn, I know this answer is late, but it's YES, IT'S UP TO EACH SOS!
Edited on Fri Jun-23-06 07:23 PM by Peace Patriot
In fact,it's even lower level than that--it's up to each country registrar, under state laws/guidelines. I was just reviewing my tabbed OPs, and found your question. And this is a major point with me: WE HAVE A WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY to CHANGE ALL this at the state/local level, and that is really the only road to transparent elections open to the people. Bush's Congress is not going to give us back our right to vote. They are the ones who took it away. It's a long slog, at the state/local level--involving thousands of jurisdictions, and a lot of corruption--but if everyone takes responsibility for their own county, or Board of Elections, or local registrar, or state, we CAN get it done that way. This is so important to know. And time may be limited. We don't know when the Bush boot will come down and the Feds just take it all over. Traditional states rights--and potential objections even from rightwingers--have probably held them off from a total power grab over our election system, with centralized electronic "voting" run from the White House. Nightmare time. We're not all that far from that now. HAVA is a bullying piece of Bushite legislation that usurps state powers already, but mostly uses the bribe and corruption of Fed money.

The time is NOW! At the state/local level!

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CLARIFICATION: Added, re Lasher's post, that it's up to state law, not the SoS.

I just meant that the rules for elections and the decisions on voting equipment are still LOCAL (state/county), as opposed to federal. Of course if the state legislature passes a law requiring a paper trail, the SoS and counties must obey it. I didn't mean they couldn't (although some bad county election officials in Calif have tried). But the SoS and couny officials can greatly influence what laws get passed, and control implementation as well as purchase of voting equipment. Usually, there are oversight boards and committees, and so on. About half the counties in the recent citizen lawsuit against 17 Calif counties on use of illegally certified Diebold DREs got out of the lawsuit by promising to use paper ballots until the lawsuit issues are settled. So country registrars HAVE DISCRETION, too.

Something else to note: HAVA did **NOT** mandate electronic voting! It is a myth that it does. See the Voters Unite pamphlet:
www.votersunite.org (MythBreakers - easy primer on electronic voting--one of the myths is that HAVA requires electronic voting; it does not.)
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 07:05 PM
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13. Dupe removed by the poster. n/t
Edited on Fri Jun-23-06 07:09 PM by Peace Patriot
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 09:40 AM
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9. Go Brad!
I love this guy, too!
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