Hillary: MI is not going to count for ANYTHING.

[mckeown1128]

NHPR's Laura Knoy: "So, if you value the DNC calendar, why not just pull out of Michigan? Why not just say, Hey Michigan, I'm off the ballot?"

Hillary Clinton: "Well, you know, It's clear, this election they're having is not going to count for anything"



http://www.nhpr.org/node/13858

[Colobo]

1. LOL!

[jakem]

28. kickeroonie!

[ElsewheresDaughter]

2. cicada flamebait......maybe MI will learn to play by the rules in the future

[mckeown1128]

5. cicada? nt

[populistdriven]

13. They sound like a cricket only 1000x louder

[Armstead]

3. I voted for it before I was against it

[Hart2008]

4. Actually, she spoke against it before she was for it. n/t

[mckeown1128]

6. Anyone notice that the Hillay supporters are completely

ignoring this thread. They don't know how to spin the apparent contradiction from Hillary. They can't just admit that she is wrong or was wrong.

[Kittycat]

7. Guess I'll have to give it a bump.

But add, that in support of the voters, I do support them having a caucus in order to reinstate their delegates.

[mckeown1128]

10. Don't get me wrong.. I do to.

I think they SHOULD definetly revote...as long as they give both candidates a chance to campaign there.

[mckeown1128]

12. a kick because the Hillary supporters are still hiding

from this post.

[juajen]

54. Sorry, that was a long interview, and I have just now finished.

She was mesmerizing, and, as usual, the entire portion dealing with MI was not quoted. Out of context means you do not get what was said before or after a quote. I encourage all of you to go and listen to the interview.

I will not quote all of it here. Suffice it to say, Hillary was very mindful of Michigan's position in this. Because she did not want them to have no one on the ticket, she left her name on, even though she did not think they would have their delegates seated. Yes, she did say that; however, her position was made very clear. It was every candidate's personal choice to take their name off or leave it on.

She felt that Michigan voters would be stripped of their rights if they had no one to vote for, and that democrats would pay for this in the November election, no matter who was the nominee. I don't know why other people left their names on the ballot, or if MI was the one where it was only Hill, but the dems in battered MI got to vote, and, it was not meaningless. I'm sure MI will remember Hillary and dems in general fondly because of this decision by Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Really, people, Obama hasn't enough glitter to go around if you waste it sprinkling it over shit. It was a great interview in New Hampshire and was probably one of the reasons she won. Her position is clear. Go listen to all of it.

I would personally like to thank the OP. I had never heard this interview. It was brilliant and I loved hearing all over again why she is the best candidate in this race.

[CreekDog]

60. As the most well known candidate, she had an advantage there

without having to campaign.

her opponents would have had to campaign there to compete with her, but party rules prevented them from doing so.

she did agree that it wouldn't count and she didn't run there in order to get those delegates by her own words.

[killbotfactory]

8. So she helped suppress the vote by saying the election wouldn't count

Left her name on the ballot so that she was the only choice of the top three, and then claim victory and try to make the election count. That's pretty cool. Go Hillary!

[mckeown1128]

15. Yep....nt

[juajen]

55. I suggest you go and listen to the interview. What you are saying is ridiculous,!

NT

[Whisp]

9. kick for mark.

[Yael]

11. She doesn't care if she wins dirty -- she just cares that she wins

Now *THAT* is an inspiring leader.

:sarcasm:

[populistdriven]

14. Go Hillary Rodham Chameleon! Go Hillary Rodham Chameleon! Go Hillary Rodham Chameleon! Yes We Can!

Is it SPAM if its all on one line?

[joshcryer]

18. Like how Obama flip flopped on superdelegates? At first it was about pledged...

...now it's about superdelegates.

Who knew? :shrug:

[joshcryer]

16. It won't, not unless the DNC decides to seat them pre or post nomination. It can go anyway. Please..

...stop the non-sense.

[Big Blue Marble]

17. This needs to be posted and reposted. n/t

[joshcryer]

20. Because it distorts a position? They won't count. Clinton only called for seating them.

She would do it, Obama would do it (if it wouldn't hurt him), and now that I think about it, the superdelegates can do it if Obama wants to disenfranchise them.

It's cute. :)

[mckeown1128]

27. Thanks....I am still amazed that Hillary supporters...

are completely ignoring this. They refuse to face reality.

[Quixote1818]

19. This was also in the Frank Rich column today. nt

[rufus dog]

21. There is absolutely NO good reason not to have a revote

They broke the rules so the original vote doesn't count - that is the penalty you see for breaking the rules. Now they can have a revote and no harm is done. There is no logical argument against this. NONE! Let them both campaign, let the voters vote, and live with the results whatever they may be.

[mckeown1128]

22. Well said. nt

[gorekerrydreamticket]

24. Sounds right to me....n/m

[catgirl]

50. The problem is, Obama could very well win in MI and FL

so Hillary won't want a re-vote.

[WilyWondr]

51. Why have a revote?

The rules were agreed to before the primary started.

2008 Delegates Selection Rules

No do overs.

What don't you people understand about that? Sheeesh

Arguments against having a revote?

How about time and money.

[juajen]

57. HILLARY BROKE NO RULE!

Sorry for shouting, but I am sick of this. Do ya'll really think if he got the nomination that Obama can win without some of Hillary's supporters? You are the ones who are running this board into the ground with your lies. Please stop it.

[mckeown1128]

65. umm... FL and MI broke the rules....

I think that is what they were talking about. So... no lies here.

[RunningFromCongress]

23. As an obama supporter, I would be "ok" w/ FL counting, but MI is BS

[SoxFan]

25. K&R

[Colobo]

26. Kick.

[mckeown1128]

29. kick

[mckeown1128]

30. another kick...

[mckeown1128]

31. yet another kick...

[mckeown1128]

33. yet again another kick... nt

[mckeown1128]

34. and yet again another kick... nt

[mckeown1128]

35. and yet again yet another kick... nt

[mckeown1128]

46. another kick since people are trying to blame Obama for

low turnout in MI and FL

[SoxFan]

32. Kick!

[angie_love]

36. Kickerooooooooo

[mckeown1128]

37. I am going to kick this for everytime I see...

someone claim that Hillary is being robbed of her delegates in MI and FL.

[Iktomiwicasa]

40. kick

:kick:

[MyNameGoesHere]

49. Kick. No wait that was an alert n/t

[snooper2]

38. no comments from the Hillary gang?

of course...

[mckeown1128]

41. Nope they are running from this and still pretending like

Hillary really cares about the MI voters...in the other threads.

[musiclawyer]

58. I feel safe to say this here

I was an Edwards guy, went over to Obama. I'm alarmed by how nasty HRC supporters are on other threads. I mean nastiness that I've never seen. Ultra defensive, ultra pejorative approach in responding. I just want HRC to go away, sooner rather than later so that things return to more civil around here.

[DS1]

39. Way to piss of an entire state - in case you DO win the now for the GE

What a stupid thing to say.

[mckeown1128]

42. another day ...another kick...

[mckeown1128]

43. Another kick...since Hillary supporters are still ignoring this. nt

[TexasObserver]

44. The votes in Michigan and Florida cannot be used. There have to be new contests.

Caucuses, because primaries would require State action.

It's either caucuses to be held, or no voting delegates from Florida and Michigan. Their choice.

[mckeown1128]

45. I agree.

They can't tell the voters that the election is symboic and then afterwards go "suprise,,, it counts"

[mckeown1128]

47. kick...

[LoZoccolo]

48. What are the Hillary supporters afraid of? n/t

[bunnies]

52. That was then. This is now. Get it?

:P

[WolverineDG]

53. Rats! Can't rec

but I can kick!

dg

[sandyj999]

56. At Least I didn't waste a stamp I hand delivered my useless ballot. n/t

[LostInAnomie]

59. Kick-a-roo

[WHAT]

61. k

.

[mckeown1128]

62. kick again.

Since someone posted some BS that it is his fault for not leaving his name on the ballot.

[mckeown1128]

63. Kick....for another "it's obama's fault" post....nt

[mckeown1128]

64. ohh...another kick... nt